Plant Propagation -Part 3 -The Basics

We are not allowed to dig anywhere but on our own property. If you get permission from the landowner, then it is OK, otherwise, no.

seedlings

false nettle
daylily
japanese maple
coneflowers Echinacea
another Echinacea left Lavender Allium right

Ju what was your method for germinating Echinacea and Japanese Maple?

Robin Japanese Maple , Long winter stratify it has taken two full seasons for this sprout to happen ,,
Echinacea was pre- stratified
These were late winter sow in sprouter , with a quirk , (a wrong ) they sprouted (2) and died in the cold . Others I brought in to protect , A full month later they sprouted (these in the pick ,
Very slow to grow these compared to last fall attempt of which five grew very rapidly , one survived ,

Mipil, he put them in his magic bag. huh JU?

Evelyn, I meant on Forest Service property. Not other folks property. 75%, at least, can't remember the exact amount, of our county is owned by the National Forest Service. Think that is why our county is so poor. All of that is off the tax roles. Any money they get from selling the logged trees, goes into the school funds for the county. That is all the tax payers get from it.

Sorry JU, I should not have been a SmartA-- with a new person on our thread.

Robin, JU has more patience to wait on plants than anyone I know. I would have quit watering them half way thru that.

Robin Knows Who I am . Some of this Robin has seen before .
And back to say ;
White Swan
Pow wow Wild Berry Echinacea seeds will germinate anytime .
Early fall has been best for me , but losses are bad . these in spring this year we will have to wait and see ,,
I have wild purple everywhere , including a blooming today .

Thanks so much regarding germination info, I guess I'll hurry up and wait for my JP, lol. I'm still getting a few sprouts here and there from my WS efforts, I sowed both then. Perhaps I should start a new batch of Echinacea though.

One more question; do your roasters have drainage holes in the bottom?

Jnette, I agree with you, it doesn't make any economic sense for the Government to own such massive amounts of land. Unless, they make a good enough return on fines...but look at all the power the ownership yields!

I don't understand roasters , pots and trays have holes , lol My sprouters do not .

Robin what kind of Coneflowers Echinacea are you trying to start ?

Truthfully though , government owns everything right down to the pennies in your jar or pocket , All that has to happen is that claim of ownership, poof , all bad !
Simplified
Purple coneflower or native , wintersown where they are to grow ,lightly scratched in with light mulch
Most turn a dry flower seed cone upside down and plant it.
Commercial seeds are usually ready to grow .
White swan your own technique anytime , )as any seedlings with general info ,
Wild Berry Summer or early fall . mulch well (I tried to late in fall ) failed .
Anyway those or these I know , have done . I have a small Milkshake that looks like it barely made it back this year) and a lot of reading from folks who say, they do not always return even in good seasons ( the milkshake is more tender ?)


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1 this years attempts from wintersowing
2purple in bloom old plant , 2002 ??
3 milshake
4 & 5 lasts years seed cone on the ground with mulch (purple prarrie)

Sprouters, yes sprouters (I thought you referred to them as chicken roasters at one point)! I WS E. Pow Wow, nothing sprouted yet. What is the germination rate with an upside down cone? Do they all germinate that close together?

Up above the pics 5 or 6 plants of two flower cones (photo 4&5 ) not good as professional or commercial seed that way ,
As two how many you want to grow , it's a ratio though , I guess ,

Here a non thinned group , that up beside those above this year Three or four plants there , one partial or old seed cone , (if I recall correctly )

If your Pow wow does not germinate soon , the odds of them doing so will drop dramatically ,
You might get one , if you run them through wintersow again , that is , if they were not commercial seed , commercial seed of Pow Wow you can start anytime of year ,

But commercial seeds will often freeze to death during winter (i don't know why as to that )

As always Ju, you're a blessing...thanks!

Well if you decide you want more purple or a white swan later (as a fall root LMK )
I' am trying Goji seeds and Hardy Kiwi (the grape size ones takes 6 months to start these) , next week the Japanese Orange
Week after some new Bamboo ,
I have some Baptisia seeds soaking now ,
Some New salix Discolor or Pussy willow cuttings that are growing , (by comparison the willows are about the same as to the clematis for size .
trying for a few hardier plants the Goji and the Orange unless I can super grow them might be indoors this winter ,,
False nettle
Bela Lugosi Daylily from wintersow ;

I haven't even thought about it in years. You might be right.

How about a box of Catnip ? My garden and it's allowed , well almost , he he .
Okay I have indigo , and Goji Soaking and it is time to plant the seeds.

I just rescued a long hair cat that was dumped at a nearby farm, he's raising his six toed paw, yeowling (new word) me, me! My DH says he has paws like a catchers mitt...what would you expect from a former pitcher, oh well, perhaps all the better to catch with my dear. I think his paws look cool, almost like having an opposing thumb.

Time to sow that catgrass seed!

is his name going to be "Yogi Catta"?
We want pics!

Lol...great chuckle there MLM. Hubby would have to love him then! I'll start a new thread with pics.

Here's some from cuttings and seed '

1 little plant a JM . larger I thought was ,? yikes , a Milkweed , When it gets cooler I will give them both their own pot .
2 false nettle , you can see it now .lol
3 Spicbush
4 last falls seed grown feverfew
red amaranth in with the Zinnia , zinnia beginning to bloom

Ju ~ You are the KING with all of your propagating and sharing the pix! Keep it up!

Evelyn thank you I do not think I will make royalty , Try to treat the plants that way if a can keep up ,, not always easy ) )
2nd is a Blue Bush Honeysuckle cutting , 2 remain ,
others are all my 3 stands of Milkweed (Syrica )

1 Tomato
2 Sunchokes
3 Last falls Yarrow ) from seed
4 Hollyhock
Last Echinacea All from seeds except the sunchokes

And some visitors

I have been missing this. It doesn't kick in in my computer when you post. Great pictures JU. You have patience I will never have. Or ever had. Jen

Jen, do you still want a corkscrew vine? I do believe you sent me some seeds a couple of seasons ago.I have 2 plants. I guess I don't have enough sun to get it to thrive.

It might be too hot to ship right now. Maybe in the fall if not now. They survived nicely inside over winter.

A.

Sure Amanda, mine didn't germinate. Really!! In the house huh? Did yours get the little ants? I understand they need them to bloom??? Did yours get seeds? I was surprised. I picked mine up and lo and behold, there were those little ants!! I didn't think mine got them. But, sure enough they did. Now that was the first one I had years ago. I haven't had one in a long time. Since the first one.

Gosh, can't imagine your not having enough sun. But, I would love to try it. Again :0)

Too hot huh? lol, it is cold here, and raining every day or night. However, things are soon to change. Suppose to be in the 80s in a few days. Thanks Amanda.

progress about a few seedlings
1 Ironweed (Vernonia Altissma)?
2 white catgrass Aveena Sativa
3 green catgrass Aveena Sativa
4 Willow seedlings (salix interior
5 Goji Berry (Barbarum Chinesis)

Nothing all that exciting in either of these ,, but I'm happy ..^_^

1 False Nettle
2 Daylily
3&4 Echinacea
5 1st year Milkweed

I had some bloom pictures of the poppies (above wintersown) but spacey me ,, in the files someplace ..

Here's an interesting Echinacea See if it stays this way
Not too good a pic though .. fuzzy ...

What is that one JU?

Grown from seed , by yours truly ,, who knows ???

It is very unique. It looks like one of them, can't remember the name, but is greenish white.

Anybody have great plans for tomorrow?

I guess the friend is coming back tomorrow to finish putting the emitters in the plants. Sure will be nice to have it done. The plants will love it too. The only day I am not having it on is Sunday, because I have designated that as fertilizer day since I will never have appointments on that day unless it is an emergency.

I didn't do anything, but try to get things for him etc. Not much, but I sure hurt by 6 o'clock. I was ready to quit. I tried sending him home several times, but he kept working. Think he just wanted to get it done asap.

Jnette, pardon my dumb question, what are emitters?

emitters are the outlets for the water to the plants. Some are sprayers, some drippers, etc. I got what is called a "soaker hose", or what Drip Works called it a "dripper hose". It is a 1/4 inch tubing with holes every 12 inches. Well, I have a lot to learn about this system. The only time I had any experience with an automatic watering system is when we lived in Seattle I installed one on my lawn and shrubs and it was strictly sprinklers. LOL, you thought I was going to say rain clouds in Seattle didn't you?

So anyway emitters emit the water from the tubing.

Here's some lemon seeds ,
The ones that turned brown a few days after the coat of the seed was peeled off .. Are germinating
Others that did not turn brown , dissolved away .

Only one of my trifoliate orange seeds turned brown to Hardcoat after peeling the seed coat .

These are the lemon seed . five days after peeling ,,
How about that , pictures too ! lol ^_^
I re posted this on the germination forum also

Great job JU!! What is A trifoliate Orange? How did you germinate the lemons? My daughter uses a damp coffee filter in a zip loc bag. Swears by them.

Hi You !!! Jen Deno Method for these ,
It did not use to be necessary to peel the seed coats off of them when I was a teenager I grew citrus all the time without peeling the seeds ..
Things change , or what ? lol
Bitter orange , Hardy orange , Many are used for root stock .. Small sour oranges with huge Thorns on the plant .
Slow progress
1 false nettle
2 falling over catgrass green
3 white catgrass
4 the white coneflowers
5 Goji ,,
You have seen them before , but still alive and growing although slowly