Plant Propagation -Part 3 -The Basics

Remember the pale Echinaea up above ,
Compared to others when it Bloomed out " Grew these from seeds , if it stays the same , #3 is another of own ,(as if the plant or seeds breed true ?)
Some difference but I like it #3 that is ..

Ju....

Are you saying the lemons won't germinate if you don't scratch off the outside coating of the seed? Why do you think that is? Could it be that they might germinate if given more time for that coating to break away? Just thinking out loud.

Pretty echinacea... I agree... love that one! Nancy

Hey Nancy , About thinking out loud , the Lemon or orange seeds ,, How about GMO , lol ?

they are double or triple seed coated naturally any more ,, The root has an air humidity opening at one end after peeling (very small), even as the seeds re-hardcoat after peeling ,,
The root is no longer strong enough to push the coating away ,, ( germination naturally has gone to 1 in 100's of seeds ,
Hybrid , GMO, Developments . ??? who knows

These are the Bitter orange ,trifoliate seeds , no germination so far ,
looks on cam like root in there , only I can't see it with my eye .

juhur it is always so interesting to see what you are up to. Thanks for all the sharing.

mlmlakestevens Basic stuff most of this ,, and I am glad you and some folks here enjoy this ,
Something to do between cat naps for me ,, and I really love to see greenery and plants growing ,
Here's some Bamboo and Date Palm seed attempts . One Bamboo has germinated but a tiny root so far so no pic except the containers and seeds .

1, 2, 3, Bamboo , #4 the Palm seeds ..

Thanks again for enjoying !!!^_^

Sorry ju, but this darned computer wouldn't let me send my last message. It wasn't that long either. Anyway, really fun seeing what you are doing. I have 1 clivia seeds cooking. LOL, I can't tell if they have rooted or not. 2 weeks now. I spray them with fungicide once a week and did the planting medium (and wow nobody would believe that stuff I planted them in) I bought it from the Clivia dealer. But, I have them all wrapped up in plastic so we'll see. Jen

I didn't know that nasturtiums came in pink. These seeds were from a wild flower mix and I'm wondering if there was something weird with the seeds.

LoL, That's a nasturtium? I never have seen a pink one either. Can you tell from the plant itself, and the leaves etc. if it is indeed a nasturtium? That is weird. Looks like a petunia to me. By the flower.

I meant to say I have 2 Clivia seeds trying to germinate. One had a root when I opened it. But, that was the most different growing medium I have ever seen. No soil at all, just sticks, dried moss, peralite, etc. Things like that. Don't know how anything can get any nutrients out of stuff like that. Had to soak it in fungicide before planting. Now misting it with it once a week. I guess those seeds are very susceptible to diseases.

I like that flower ! , I don't have the slightest idea , as to for sure of anything about it , Looks a lot like a little Malva of some kind ,
Only lots of flowers look alike ,, lol

I'll take a better picture including the leaves tomorrow. The leaves look like nasturtiums.

Please do Shorty. I am really curious now. Thanks.

nasturtiums ) Peruvian Pink or Cherry Pink ,, Yes they exist , in pink , Yes those above probably are ,, Browse for Pink , nasturtium
They are none in DG files ,, ??? I've been looking , no exact names though .

Shorty_CA My Zinnia , See all the shades of pink, purple, and red .. Then see that Yellow Zinnia in there ,
The odds of a pink Nasturium , From what gather in , the odds are about the same of getting your pink , as that yellow in there with mine , from mixed seeds

Oh darn!! I thought Shorty had something to patent. LOL Oh well.

If it grows true from seeds , shorty might ?

Thought you said there were 2 pink nasturtiums already JU.

Not necessarily true from seed , Some seem to say that their that ,, it's an internet thing you "know" ,,,, or do you ?

It could almost be a hybiscus from the leaves...but then again... a better photo would help to clear up the mystery. -:) Nancy

Well, I don't know Nancy, I went back and looked again and I see two different leaves there. The one that has maple like leaves might be a vine in there, or the long ones with no points, can't remember what they call those type leaves, but the long ones, might be a weed. However, other than the size of the plant and bloom, it does kind of look like a Hibiscus. jen

Jen, Nasturiums are a small vine ,, most of them .. it has a hybrid bloom , the above ,,

You said "most of them" Yes, I have had both, the bush type and I also had a vine that went over the top of my hoophouse. The vine was almost as big as my finger. But, I don't remember that leaf on either of mine. Something else might have gotten mixed in with the seed Shorty used.

Maybe Shorty needs to run it by the plant ID folks.

Here are a few more photos with a slightly better camera.

Notice the bottom larger leaves look similar (at least to me) to nasturtium leaves. The top more pointed leaves look like something I don't recognize.

Sadly, the bag the seeds came in was given away with the remaining seeds and the bird it was in is AWOL.

The last picture is from a second plant that hasn't started blooming yet.

Hi Shorty- I think it is a Malva. Go look at the photos of the various Malva species in Plantfiles. Let us know what you think.

Those leaves that are not blooming look like a Delphinium , I think your flower is a hybrid Nasturium or a Desert type Malva (malvacae) ..Those do not grow well here , so not much experience as far as myself ,

It looks similar to a Malva except for the rounded leaves on the bottom. I saw where some people consider the Malva (aka Mallow) a noxious weed... lol. that would be what's in my yard. I only learned recently that it is acceptable for seeds companies to include a certain percentage of weed seed with their seed mixes.

I'll keep an eye on them. Maybe they'll produce seeds that I can experiment with.

The elongated leaves in the pictures are from a nearby evening primrose. I have no clue how that got their either but at least I'm certain of the identity.

I'll try again. Wouldn't you know, they got me with the very first one.

What I said, was I would not throw it away as being a noxious weed. All, or most plants, are considered noxious some place. Where the climate is perfect, the soil is perfect etc. It will grow so fast and so much that it will eventually be called noxious.

Just like the butterfly bushes are being considered in Seattle as noxious because they are growing in the ditches, along the roads etc.

Years ago my mom wanted some Purple Loosestrife and all the seed companies refused to send it to her in Washington State. It is considered noxious, or invasive, in the wetlands. She told them she didn't have any wetlands. Doesn't matter, there are wetlands some where in Washington State.

So, you see Shorty, I would not discount the plant on that basis. It is pretty and you like it. That is enough. Jen

Found naturalized Malva's on our new property here in Oregon. Same look to the leaf, same shape to the flower only ours are purple/pink. I'll check tomorrow to see if any are blooming out back.

Jen, you're right and I won't be removing these plants. I happen to like them ^_^.

Shorty, those are mallows of some kind.

I kind of think so too Evelyn, Just that they are so low to the ground. Most Mallows I have seen were tall like Hollyhocks. But, they are pretty, and Shorty likes them and that is what counts. Keep your eye on them Shorty, and let us know how they do. Jen

The seeds were planted in February so maybe they will get bigger eventually.

Trouble snoozing soo I thought I would type some a minute or two ,
The willow and lavender here above I have lost , one of my green Catgrass plants also .
Nights have been unusually cold here , might be part of that ,
I will redo some soils and earths and try again .

My Goji and Lemon tree are still alive , the lemon tree has not put up leaves though , only a green stem with a long root and waiting to leaf .. White Catgrass is still alive but not looking as it should .
No Orange trees of any ,, failed , at least so far ..
Most of these are kept outside so once again I believe the cold nights have something to do with this .
Forecast for 60's tonight and it is in the mid 50's as said cold for germinating tropicals , so I am going to have to change method ..
Browsing still for perennial yellow snapdragon , I have a heck of a time trying to grow those and it is a popular that most have no difficulty with at all .

Didn't know there was such a thing as a perennial snap dragon JU.

Regular snapdragons often overwinter for me, they seem to actually be tender perennials, or even subshrubs (I prune them like a Caryopteris, to about 6", every spring.
But I also have a Antirrhinum hispanicum 'Gummy' that lives on the edge of a rock wall. It blooms all summer, and even survived our 10 degree F weather this last winter. It is a creeper/sprawler/dangler-over-wall-edge kind of plant, not a spike like the usual snapdragons.

I have had some that lasted a few seasons but they have to be planted as a mature plant , even then only a few return ,
Lots of people say the perennial Snapdragon is not perennial either , Yellow Braun or something ,

I tried Yellow Braun years ago, it did not seem any more perennial for me than the regular, but I really liked the color-worth planting. It died out in a cold winter, just like the rest.

Yellow , and White blooms really show here , Lots of people do not like the colors , the blue , red . so forth much more popular .
I already collecting seeds , Salvia , and Mustard ,, Mustard I can dry a couple days and grow again if I want , Grows fast ,,
My little seedling plants are trying though ..I got to a slow start this year , everything to my view reflects that ,
Giving some thought to planting my white Echinacea in the ground , seedling are still small but doing okay
A smallish Baptisia I deciding on a place for also ) decisions , decisions , as plants increase in number ,,
Have to see what happens in a while
Stargazer , BES , Stargazer , Liatris , Coneflowers

Very pretty, but I love the white one. You say they have to be planted as mature plants? How do they get to that stage then? Try taking a cutting and starting it to hold over the winter in the house. Might have a mature plant in the spring.

I am doing that with a petunia that I bought from a greenhouse in Michigan. One I have never seen out here. Going to take several cuttings. I did one accidentally about 10 days ago and it has looked real good until just this morning. Kinda droopy now. Don't know why. Wonder if I got it too wet.

I had several Stargazers for a couple years then one year they all turned purple, solid purple, and died the next year. Have you heard of that?

I have no reason in mind why flowers do what they do Jen ,,

mlmlakestevens Yes very pretty Snapdragon up above ,, White flowers only a few grow strong here , Aster and Daisy ..
I am drilling to loosen earth for a Goji plant , Drill with a hole driller and then some inventive mixing , Little plant sort of . but got to keep that root going ,(deep tap root ) /