Could We Have Some Honesty Here ,Please- 2

You know, I've never been big on secrecy either. There's been 589 views of this thread but only 39 posts. So, who's trolling? Wanna check in? What, nothing to say? Y'all were pretty vocal yesterday before noon. What are you afraid of? Becoming an outcast because you posted on DG when you were supposed to be boycotting it?

yea really i am a stay at home mom my kid fixing to go to college. if i worked i wouldnt be begging for money to pay her schooling. id like my bank account to look a h...ll alot better then it does. hmm invisables checks wish i could see those. lol haha

hmm my Dh would tell you i cant work back issues. i wish i could. thats juts wrong and hurt ful to say that.

Really guys, come on. What's the point? Destroy something you love to prove a point. Destroy something beautiful and blame it on someone else. It's each individual's choice to leave DG or stay. No one is making anyone leave...or are they?? Are you afraid to post? Who's out there anyway????

heathr, the majority of the 600-plus views are most likely from those who have already posted to the thread, and are re-reading it when a new post is made ;o)

ah, bummer...but, I know they're out there...lol

I`m mad about losing my cubits I worked on for 3 months and I will not support the company IB that has pulled the rug out from under me just because they were scared I might be doing good and strangely thinking I was part of them losing a million dollars. That sounds a little off to me. Now I still love the way DG used to be. I still love my friends I made over here.

What will I not miss? The controlled situation of a message board where I`m not the admins lol! I feel watched and followed. Another thing is feeling trapped in Garden Watchdog. See, when I signed up for Garden Watchdog I didn`t know they wouldn`t let me change my mind and be removed if I wanted. Once they have your stuff they will not let you have it back. Now I feel trapped and this isn`t a good feeling at all. I can`t make them take me off the Garden Watchdog and it isn`t because of bad feedback it is just because I want to have a choice in the matter and I don`t. This feels like I`m in jail over here instead of something I chose to do because it is fun.

Karen

Edited: changed is to has. Added n`s to thinking.

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I'm one of those who have posted. I have not left my computer nor will i till after 7:00 pm.
This is not a game to me. This is my family. Anything that effects anyone here,effects me. So I'll keep myself here.
heather, Are you by any chance fanning the flames?
Could be wrong.
Vickie

I am one who has been lurking and reading---I was also lurking and reading at Cubits.org. I finally made a post at Cubits and I will copy that post here.


As hard as it has been so far, I have not commented on anything. I do want to say, I still love DG, as a lot of my friends are there. I have a high regard for Terry and Melody and this is not going to change that. They have a job to do and they are only trying to do it.

I have enjoyed cubits very much. I really enjoyed having the private one to post things on that the family could see and use. I don't feel I did much good with the Cubit I opened, but I was trying as I wanted it to be able to generate it's share of profit when the time came.

The best thing about Cubits was that you gave us the ability to be who we are. I am a Christian, and I had every opportunity to share that on Cubits. I will forever be grateful for that opportunity, Dave and Trish.
I sincerely hope that we can come out of this and all still be friends. I can not forsake my other friends at DG, and I don't want to hurt any of my friends feelings here at Cubits either.
I know nothing about the lawsuit, or have no idea how it will all come out, but I do know I wish the best for all.
I intend to go to the proboard site and see about joining
Love to all
Sandra

am I fanning the flames? No, not intentionally, but thanks for checking me. I want to know why each time I post there are 10+ views but no one else is posting. That's all. Sorry for the delay in response, was having dinner then answered d.mails...

heathr, Great minds think alike. I had dinner too.LOL I keep going over and over both sites and my family thinks i've lost it.
probably have!

ROFLOL---what was wrong with the identification of the snake hiding in a flower? WHICH IT WAS--right there in the picture
AND- How is is that one person who seems to write after every other 2 or 3 entries says multiple times "I know what you all think" & I know that you don't like me".
Hey kiddo- even Mds don't KNOW what another person thinks or feels, so you certainly do not.
Gee whiz what a grandious stance!!!

I'm sorry, please let me rephrase myself then. I apologize for that. I'm sorry that offended you and if it offended anyone else. That was not my intention at all. I was sharing my thoughts...and I thought it was coming across that way. I guess it wasn't. I did not mean to imply such a grand statement that I knew how anyone else thought or felt...I simply meant that's how I felt others were viewing me. I guess I assumed that was implied, but at this point assumptions are not good....

Point and case the picture of the snake in the flower. That **really** did NOT need to be posted. It is what it is. However, I've decided that "snake" can be a term of endearment, so it won't bother me none =)

Charlene, Karen, I'm with you guys! Sorry about the snakes.

but, um, BirdieBlue, do you like me?

with the descentisizing of so much in todays world, it truly does not surprise me that some may not be aware of where the term "That sucks" etc comes from, but believe you me it began as ma VERY shocking and crude comment. Most "ladies" would know that though!
Many people use atrosiously crude language, but I for one do not appreciate it here at DG which is a G rated site. Children should NOT be encouraged to ar around people that casually say "that s__ks!!"

ROFL!! Why in the world would you care anyway? I do not even know you! Is your feeling of self worth so low that you have some strange need to feel "liked" by me or anyone else? That is really really sad. I say that as both a DG member and a Psych RN.

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LOL Of course she does. I know birdie. She loves everyone.
I thought the snake in the grass was cute and i took it as such.
No apologies needed Linda.

Well, I am 33 and say things much worse in real life than that sucks and I still think of myself as a lady. Your words don't make you a lady, the person that you are at your core is what inherently makes you a lady. To be honest, with everything that has been said on any of the threads this is what I choose to comment on. And since this thread is supposed to be about IB and Dave, I don't really see what being a lady or not has to do with it.

However Birdie-you are completely entitled to your opinion, just as anyone else here is....

cubits was just shut down

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Well, Cubits is offline, folks.

Time to start contacting the advertisers, and hit IB where it hurts.

Thanks Vicki. I have no reason whatsoever to dislike any of the DG members.
I will say that Cubits is now officially gone. What a shame.

BirdieBlue / Sheri

No, I don't care if you, or anyone else, likes me. I'm pretty sure I've already shown that by what I've said and done here. But thanks for the "encouraging words". If I did have that low of self esteem you surely would have crushed it...if not by calling me a snake then by your response to me asking if you liked me. THIS is not the DG I have known. THIS is the hurting feelings on purpose that I was talking about.

People, we are better than this. What is going on here? Who care is IB and Dave are fighting? Why does that have to effect our friendships? Do we really need to call each other snakes, etc? Do we need to stoop this low?

WE ARE BETTER THAN THIS. The DG I have always known, the people I have met here, the folks I love here are better than this. Charlene, you are better than this and so are you BirdieBlue.

And, no, you don't know me...so how do you know if I'm a snake or an angel? You can't make that call till you do know me.

Cubits is off the net. I'm in tears ... I thought grown-ups were supposed to play nice.

Just because they are grown ups doesn't mean they are nice

Or that they don't need time outs...which I need a time out right now........c-ya all in a few....

If that were so, this would not have happened. Be strong, guys! I'll see you there...

I actually think that grown-ups are a lot more cruel since they are more cognizant of their actions and the repercussions of said actions.

Well, heathrjoy - regardless of whether I like you (or even know you), I certainly do respect you for what you're doing in the midst of all this very confusing rhetoric and name-calling. I had thought that we were mostly adults here, but I can tell you that I have never met any adults who have behaved quite this badly.

As they say, "With friends like this, who needs enemies?" Doesn't the Bible also say, "Neither cast ye your pearls before swine?"

You are certainly being a very gracious hostess and moderator, but at some point I can imagine that it will just not be worth it to engage in conversation with people who refuse to appreciate your efforts.

Cubist is gone but it is really everyone here on DG who have really lost, lost our freedom to chose, our friends who have left one way or the other. and our feeling of family.

One question. Why? They company bought DG because of what it was but they have done more to damage it than anyone.

So very very sad!!!!!

I have been really astounded about all this - I really do understand that people have enjoyed talking on their computers to other people with similar interests, involving much more than just plants. A social networking site has great value to people deeply involved in it. But it seems to me that this whole thing has grown quite out of proportion. Many people have spent a lot of time building their sites, and I am sure they enjoyed the process as well as the finished product. It is obviously disappointing to have it disappear for a time (Dave will probably revive it all at an appropriate time - he is apparently saving the files). To equate losing a website (even great ones) with the truly terrible things in life is not realistic. Mourning is for losing children to disease, losing young men in Iraq, losing your job and your house, - seeing your coastline and livelihood disappearing in a sea of oil. Those are real problems. Losing a website - even one that allows you to communicate easily with friends - just doesn't compare. I hope everyone involved can stop a bit and get things in perspective. We all need to get back out in our gardens and see what we still have - this is not the end of the world. Such determined folks will surely find or build another site, probably better than what you had before - you are much more experienced in this since you did it on Cubits. I wish you all well and hope you can settle your spirits before going to bed tonight.

I've posted over here our response: http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1102085/

Please feel free to continue to discuss things here is you wish but I'll likely focus any answers (if you're interested) in the other thread.

thanks

heathrjoy, I think you are doing great. You are saying it all real good as far as I am concerned. SO I am one of the lurkers just watching.

I vote for allowing the free flow of discussion and ideas...if you don't want to talk about the matter any longer than don't , but also don't stymie others...

Applause for stillwood!

Notsomuch.

I have told Ib I will not renew my membership if cubits went off line, and yes I will be contacting the advertisers. Lets all put the hurts on them!

First of all, I don't think anyone here is being told to shush. Being told to "stymy" just sounded wrong, lol.

Miguel simply said,

Wren you said...

Stillwood I agree and you said that very well.

Aguane, was your comment a response to bivbiv's? I hope not. I can't imagine anyone compairing this situation to some of the things Stillwood listed. I've been through a few of the things Stillwood listed and they were life altering. I'm not saying this situation isn't a big deal...I'm not saying that at all...I'm just asking if this is really affecting you that strongly? I hope no one is affected that severly by this.

It is over. There is nothing to talk about. Karen

I just wrote this in my garden blog and would like to share it openly. I have not yet decided whether to stay or go, whether to lurk or be active -- or perhaps I will just be sent to neverland by the powers that be. Right now I really do not care.

**As of 8 p.m. EDT tonight Cubits closed down; Dave could not take a chance on the deep pockets of IB causing him and him family serious harm, which is more than understandable. I believe Cubits will resurface at some time in the future, but regardless I believe that irreparable harm has been done to DG. The people that flocked to Cubits were the core of DG, the most active members; it was not an either/or decision, we all belong to many websites. This was an opportunity to create our own individual space, for whatever purpose. For some it was a way to establish a business presence that they had already been working on. For others, a place simply to house a photo journal of their garden. Now Dave & Trish have been banned from DG and so many others have simply renounced their memberships. There really is no reason for me to remain active here, either; I can use a photobook program for my garden journal, and will have more time to spend in my "real" garden. It just is very sad that so many people on the site apparently have no idea of what has happened and that it will eventually also affect them.**

Wishing everyone a great gardening season --

Sandy