The Lasagna Garden Brigade #2 (Continued)

Frost dates http://www.farmersalmanac.com/weather/a/average_frost_dates

LOLLY,
Then you are ready!!!Plan well so you will not be ripping every year. One caution, do not plant anything that spreads like ferns and irises. what I do is plant ferns and iris in pots and bury the whole pot. Am i making sense? We are out of town now waiting for our grandson to be born in aM and so I am in the computer updating my ebay store!! Belle

I'm planning on planting Alliums and a mixture of perennials. My irises have their own bed.

Woo Hoo! A baby boy! How wonderful for all of you. Our 3 grandsons are just the greatest, but then, I may be a little prejudiced! LOL!
I keep adding to my beds because they keep shrinking. As they decompose, they aren't deep enough, so just keep adding. Hope by spring I will have good planting soil. Manure and compost will settle some, and as bad as our so-called dirt is, it will all help!

New new bee thread http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1039530/

Good link arejay.. Lolly good job on your beds.. I have 8 now and thinking of adding 4 more. I have the room, so why not, lol. The manure river floweth along with everything else. Lots of rain this week, so haven't been outside :-( But I did go dig Iris, Reed Grass, and Maiden grass yesterday. Belle, I agree with you on the mulch. I plan to load up on the mulch as to have no weeds. Low maintenance works for me!

Thanks Mechelle,

I plan to do lasagna beds all around the perimeter of my yard due to the rocks and other stuff in the way. I've got about 10' of a second one started and am just adding materials as I get them. Hoping to have the whole yard ready to go by the spring.

Your bed looked so neat Lollyjean I think your yard will be really pretty. My stuff is always a little wild and hard to manage. I usually bite off more than any human being with any sense can chew. LOL

Okay i am a Mimi again our 4th boy!! No girls!!!. We have 2 children and both have 2 boys each and both said that's it!!! Here is his picture at 45 minute after delivery.I was in the delivery room at the University of Alabama hospital where our Son in law teaches and is very different from when I had our children. they do not even do episiotomy now, they just let the perineum tear and then repair because studies shows that healing is faster and less painful. It was still a second degree tear. I hope no one minds me posting because some of you are more friendly than some of the threads that i very seldom posts. The birthing area is huge and it is 1:1 ratio meaning one patient and one nurse. I am the lady on vacation who will posts pix of my lasagna garden when I get back home. i have my lap top with me but my pix are not accessible.Belle

My picture did not post!!!

still did not post, i must be doing something wrong.

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Keep trying bellie you will get it!! Come post at the chat thread too so none of us miss it....
Here is the link
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1039530/ Lets see if that works sometimes I goof just ask they will tell you!!

Look http://www.tempotwo.com.au/New_Introductions.html#0

Did everyone see this?
http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/17/

Hi Arejay

Thanks for the link.

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Excellent article and that's what i do. i have a plastic container with tight lid on my counter top where i put everything that can be composted like peels, lints from dryer etc etc and when it is full i have a covered composter that we bought from the city where thousands of worms do their thing.Beside it is my pile of clippings, leaves etc which is used in spring. We put tarp on top of this pile. These is behind the storage shed.I get upset if I find compostable stuff in the trash so DH is good about it. We are still in Alabama and had been raining a lot so DH had not played golf but had painted the nursery and put all the baby furniture together and it is so nice with primary colors. they bought it in atlanta at the ikea store. Have a good day!! belle

I know it's late and everybody's in bed but.... I finished my second lasagna bed today!!! Mulch and all. Been holding these hostas all summer waiting to finish the bed. Here's a pic. :)

That looks great seray. I hope to get my shady spot lasagna bed finished this weekend.

Hi all.
This thread has been helpful.This method is one I hadnt heard about.
Sorry I didnt read every last word from the first post butI have had some success with a Lazagna I started this April.
Here is what NOT to do.Try to plant right away in clay soil underneath layers of mulch and newspaper.
It was horrible going thru sod too.
I wish I had waited until next spring.
I will take your advise and put down compost again and Leaves, we have them this time of year.
I have been putting in perennials( because I had them ordered and needed to put them somewhere)
here is the bed in March

a few months later. I call it the Garden from Hell because digging is so diffacult at least until September.

longer view same as March
Pic taken in July

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Thanks for the tip on the clay GE I'm glad I'm only planning on seeds when I get mine finished and ready to plant. Your bed looks good in spite of the clay.

Congratulations Seray that bed is going to be beautiful when those hostas get bigger.

My lasagna bed got washed out three nights ago. We had reports of up to 70 MPH wind and here at our house 2 1/4 inches of rain fell in less than an hour ! We live on a downhill slope, so our barn yard now has a lasagna bed spread all over it.

I would add a caution about bermuda grass. As I have learned, cardboard or newspaper and any amount of layers will NOT stop the bermuda grass from coming through. I've been using RU and pulling it out of my completed lasagna bed for 3 weeks now and every day there's more. The other evening as I was walking my dogs on our circle driveway, I happened to notice all the bermuda grass that's coming through the asphalt. A month ago this driveway was re-surfaced with thick layer of tar heated to several hundred degrees and then pea gravel and rolled with 1000+ lb. roller. All the bermuda grass was treated with RU a week before and then removed after it appeared to die. All of a sudden the thought hit me, "Duh, if it can come through asphalt and hot tar, ain't no way cardboard is ever going to stop it!" All those yummy nutrients just make it grow faster. LOL.

Maybe some bermuda grass varieties in other places aren't as resilient as what we have in Texas, but it is an exercise in futility to cover live BG and build a lasagna bed here. From now on I will double RU treat for a couple weeks beforehand to give me at least a fighting chance. No problem with St. Augustine. Not one runner has survived.

Good info on the BG, D-N-P. So far I just have a bunch of mushroms popping up. Is that ok? I guess it's better than grass, (shh, it's probably listening, don't want it to hear) I hope it doesn't start popping through. I guess if you keep putting mulch and smothering it that may help. Go away bad grass!

Seray, your Hosta bed looks wonderful! I kind of like the idea of having beds for only certain types of plants. I have an Iris bed going, and the DL bed started. It makes it nice when there are many cultivars. I have the container lasagna bed and decided to make that one a succulent bed. I rcvd a lot of nice little guys to go in it. I just need to get more soil.

GE, I like the look of your lasagna bed. It looks so nice and refined there next to the green grass. Good job you guys. Keep up the good work! Mechelle

I need advise on casting seeds.
In the past I have pulled aside the mulch and dropped Hollyhock,Foxglove and annual poppies and left it at that.
Does anyone just drop seeds on mulch?

HI GE

I like your bed! I think the only problem was not enough layers. My hostas were in one gallon pots and I just moved the layers out of the way and they tucked right in there. No digging. I took all summer to get enough stuff to layer that high though.

Thanks Mindy for the compliment. This is my first with Hostas really. I had just planted a small bed when we moved from FL. They're probably too crowded and I'll have to divide them next year. LOL

Bermuda grass DNP!!! Will use weeds killer round up for my next big bed. Thanks for the warning. I'm so sorry your bed was washed out!!! That's too much work to see it all disappear before your eyes. Hurricanes were always like that in FL. The rain would drown everything you planted raised bed or not. Glad to live in GA because of that alone. Can you salvage any part of it?

I love succulents Mechelle. Show us some pics when you get it planted!

Seray, that looks wonderful! Can't wait to see pics next spring. Hostas and ferns are 2 of the things on my wish list for spring. Don't have any of either yet, so am looking forward to adding those next year. I have a shade garden that was here when we bought the house, but the only thing they planted in it was snow on the mountain, which I am trying to move to a hillside at my DMIL yard. Did you buy your hosta plants, or start from seed?

I bought them but have seeds pods from Royal Standard. I'll send you a few if you want to try to germinate them. I plan to try tissue culture this winter (I'm an old lab tech) and will start with hostas. I have a long shaded driveway and want to run them all the way down on both sides. Need bunches and bunches. They're so pretty I need a few more varieties to have a good mix.

Hey seray, I think I could help with that. I have several Hostas.. The only one I know the name of is Patriot. There are so many different ones that it's hard to ID them in the plant files.. Will send you pics of the ones I have and let you see and add to your box this weekend. I need to go get some more potting soil so I can get my daylilies in the ground before it starts to rain again.

Seray, that would be awesome! Never tried them from seed, but I'll try anything twice. Or maybe even 3 times. LOL You'll have to keep us posted on how your tissue cultures turn out. I'd love to know how they grow compared to alternate germinations. Take good notes for us! Please!

I'll get them out to ya Skellogg. I'll be curious to see how they germinate for you. I also have a packet of mixed I'll send you. I don't think I'll try them as I have puyas, black bat, amorphs and the like for the winter. LOL I'm going to send you my seeds (I've been hording them for awhile) for the Giant Himalayan Lilies. You have the climate for them. Cold!!!! Sure would like to see pictures when they come up. They bloom as their last gasp like agaves but will have pups at the base. Don't know if they'll come up but thought you might like to try.

I'm working up to all the lights etc. you need for tissue culture. Space is the challenge. It's a kitchen tissue culture kit that I've been looking at. When I'm couped up for the winter. If I blow up the house we'll have a good laugh. LOL And a mojito!!!

Oh geez, don't blow up the house! LOL That would definately be mojito time! I'll be happy to send pics when they come up. I am trying to keep good notes and journals on everything and where it all came from so I can get the info to e1 who has helped me. Thanks! Someday we will all have the room for all our little projects, I hope! I would love to see pics when you get it all set up and operating! Gotta have something to occupy us when we can't get outside in the winter. LOL! I'm not sure that blowing up our houses is the answer tho. LMAO

I think the stuff is harmless in a NORMAL persons hands! LOL

Good morning,
I am home now and will attempt to post our new baby's pix

I can not still post it however here is my 3 new garden this year and it is a lasagna. I hope I can post it. Lasagan is the best and most green way to garden.

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Keep trying Bellie. Let us know if you need help. Can you email pictures?

i hope this is the right picture. i have so many beds and not enough land !!

Better still email me privately and I will email you smug mug link then perhaps you can post the hour picture and his bedroom. they waited 10 years for him and so they went overboard with the furnishings. it was very different for us when our daughter was born. Going back to my new bed the background is the neighbors and they do not take care of their yard the way we do. I also have drift wood from our children. You see They give me stuff for the garden and the 2 japanese maples were gifts when they were growing up. i can post it if you want to see them. Here is the garden # 2 and I want you to take note of our grass which is zoysia. I press the wrong button. LOL!!!Belle

here it is I hope

Beautiful Belle!!

I have to post the back garden but I have to warn you that is is like a forest but it is my haven. Picture taken from the back and I have 10 umbrellas to protect the hostas which i have over 600 cultivar, plumeria which I have 30+ cultivar and etc etc. It is crazy but not overwhelming up keep anymore. you want to know the secret???

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and another!!