Fall Color!!

Southeast, MA(Zone 6b)

Wow now that is a very pretty slap of reality Victor. :)

Ffld County, CT(Zone 6b)

I'm trying to find some plants that can live/survive/thrive in an area that is often wet, even a few inches of standing water. Will blueberries work here? I've heard they like moist conditions, but this area may be more than moist, lol!

Thanks,
Dee

P.S. Beautiful color on that blueberry!

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

How much of the year is it that wet?

Louisiana irises can live happily at the side of streams.

Lower Hudson Valley, NY(Zone 6b)

Doubt they can take standing water. Clethra alnifolia is perfect for that. For a great ground cover - Golden Creeping Jenny. Ligularia is a good perennial to use there. Also, Acorus or any of the marginal plants.

Southern, CT(Zone 6a)

I have J iris in my bog garden which is always wet.

Ffld County, CT(Zone 6b)

Yep, I beat you guys to it - I have all those plants on my list already! Thanks! I was just keeping my fingers crossed on the blueberry, but oh well...

Funny, I started out thinking nothing would grow in these conditions, and now I am having trouble narrowing down the list!

To keep this post on topic, I have to add that happily, lots of the plants I've found for this area have great fall color, as well as winter interest. I'm so excited about this garden that I almost don't mind the thought of the actual digging around in the mud!

:)
Dee

Lower Hudson Valley, NY(Zone 6b)

What are some that you're considering?

Ffld County, CT(Zone 6b)

Well, it's actually two beds on either side of a path. One side is consistently damp, the other side often has standing water. Both are just about half sun/half shade. On one side, the damp side, we are planning:

ilex verticillata
buttonbush
itea virginica
redtwig dogwoods
bog rosemary
marsh marigold
japanese/siberian/louisiana iris
viburnum (not sure which one yet - too many choices!)
clethra alnifolia
japanese primrose
astilbe
peony
hydrangea

also trying to fit in a willow shrub (salix integra Flamingo), filipendula rubra or ulmaria, hibiscus, swamp azalea, and a couple of other smaller perennials, such as penstemon digitalis. Seems a lot of the water lovers are BIG plants!

On the standing water side, we are not as sure yet. We are considering:

asclepias incarnata
carex
eupatorium mac. & perf.
iris
lobelia cardinalis and siphilitica
pontederia cordata
rudbeckia lacinata
mimulus ringens
marsh marigolds

Still doing some research - which is good because as I said, we're realizing there is much more out there than we thought, but bad because we want it all and can't fit it all!

:)
Dee

Ffld County, CT(Zone 6b)

Hmm, found another reference for planting blueberries in wet soil today. Vaccinum corymbosum, or highbush blueberry, grows in swamps and bogs, according to this book on, well, on swamps and bogs, lol - and wetlands. I shall have to do yet further research, I guess.

:)
Dee

Lower Hudson Valley, NY(Zone 6b)

Nice list Dee!! Please post again with the final choices.

Lower Hudson Valley, NY(Zone 6b)

Here's a link you might find of interest, Dee.

http://magazine.audubon.org/backyard/backyard0309.html#raingarden

Lexington, VA(Zone 6a)

Was going to suggest Chelone glabra (White Turtlehead) and it's there in Victor's link! Used to find it growing in the middle of brooks in Maine so should do well on the "standing water" side - a nice fall bloomer - perfect for this thread :)

South China, ME(Zone 5a)

This is a sure sign fall is here....the apple tree is not ever prunned or even kept up. Heck it is neglected for the most part but it looks beautiful as is, so why mess with Mother Nature??

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Ffld County, CT(Zone 6b)

Thanks Victor and rcn! Appreciate the help!

:)
Dee

Southwest , NH(Zone 5b)

Looks heavenly, Celeste!! The squirrels ate all of our apples this year We also have a big web of something very unpretty at the top of the tree. So much for this year's crop! I can tell it's fall by looking at the dead daylily bodies draping over my stone wall.

Lower Hudson Valley, NY(Zone 6b)

Hope you eat them Celeste! I love apples.

Southeast, MA(Zone 6b)

Oh looks yummy. No flowers again this year courtesy of the nasty winter moth caterpillars. No flowers no apples. :(

Upper Hudson Valley, NY(Zone 5a)

When I first started teaching I used to do the wax thing with leaves all the time. I used them to make bulletin boards. I used to go farther north and get them earlier before they changed color around Glens Falls. Another teacher was admiring my bulletin board and then she said, "see those leaves right there, the branch with 3 leaves on it!!!! I guess that's where the rash came from!! Eleanor

p.s. I grew up on a farm and had never seen poison ivy

Lower Hudson Valley, NY(Zone 6b)

Ooh - painful lesson!

Upper Hudson Valley, NY(Zone 5a)

Not painful - itchy, very, very itchy!! Eleanor

Southwest , NH(Zone 5b)

Ooooooh, Eleanor........that's not fun at all! We have never had Poison Ivy around here in this part of NH for years and years, but now I hear that there is some in our area. We haven't seen any yet around the farm, but my DH is so terribly allergic to it, I hope it keeps its distance from us.

Candyce - do you have PI in your area?

The Monadnock Region, NH(Zone 5a)

Oh yeah - there's a lot of PI around here. But, so far, no one in the family gets infected by it. I hear though, that you can be very tolerant of the oils from poison ivy one year, and then very intolerant the next, so we ARE careful. And everyone knows how to identify the plant on sight.

Poor, poor, Eleanor!!

Upper Hudson Valley, NY(Zone 5a)

Oh I know how to identify it now. good thing to cause it's all over this area. Eleanor

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

A new strain is being talked about - even stronger than old PI.

Lower Hudson Valley, NY(Zone 6b)

Yes you can develop the sensitivity at any time - like most allergies. Another good reason to use gloves.

Southern, CT(Zone 6a)

I used to not get it as a kid. I would pick it and tease my friends with it. They thought I was like a superhero! One day I totally blew them away by squeezing out sap and rubbing it into my face and hands. Guess what? I got a horrible case of poison ivy. Now I get it when I think of PI.

The Monadnock Region, NH(Zone 5a)

Ooohhhh, Dave! Then be very careful reading this thread!!

Lower Hudson Valley, NY(Zone 6b)

My little guy got it all over his face two years ago playing outside Daycare. Doc said it was windblown.

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

Oh no!

Summers of my youth are filled with memories of one of my sisters with that pink calamine lotion over her hands, arms, legs and face.

Lower Hudson Valley, NY(Zone 6b)

'You're gonna need an ocean...'

Clinton, CT(Zone 6b)

Photo taken at the Tower Hill Botanic Garden yesterday. Name plate said "aster novae-angliae 'Sailorboy' Michaelmas daisy" but I don't think so.....

Anyone know what it is? We have a fire hydrant out front and I want to plant this behind it.

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The Monadnock Region, NH(Zone 5a)

Whatever it is, it sure is pretty!! I couln't find it in the Plant Files, either.

Clinton, CT(Zone 6b)

Candyce...it was at the end of "The Systematic Garden" off the Orangerie. Got a lot of attention as it was the most colorful plant at Tower Hill. Kicking myself because I really want to grow it and I should have known it was not Aster Sailorboy. It is in the family as that garden is laid out by relationship--that is the aster, aster novae-angliae, rudbeckia and sunflower area (there was a huge sunflower with frilly, fennel typel leaves, over 6 feet tall, loaded with buds but not in bloom yet. Should have gotten the name of that too. Maybe I'll have to go back next week.)

Here is a wider shot of the Yellow UFO (unidentified flowering object):

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The Monadnock Region, NH(Zone 5a)

You are right, DP. I'd say that the problem calls for a trip back to those gardens.

(Any excuse, right?) ~ LOL

Clinton, CT(Zone 6b)

Candyce...maybe I'll call. Its a little far to drive. See how it stands out in the garden?

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The Monadnock Region, NH(Zone 5a)

That's amazing! And still very pretty.
It really does stand out nicely, doesn't it?

Assonet, MA(Zone 6b)

Hi. Very inexperienced gardner here, but looks like a corrieopsis to me. Sorry do not know the exact name. :)

Ffld County, CT(Zone 6b)

I was going to say helenium also - can't identify it farther than that though!

Clinton, CT(Zone 6b)

daisycat...I'm learning too. Looks like Coreopsis but after checking plants files it seems to small to be that. Think rcn48 and DiggerDee got it. Should have taken a close up but didn't think I would need to identify it having had a name plate on it an all (learned a few lessons on my first serious trip to a botanic garden...be very diligent for one).

Thanks for help all. Website below is in French but has great photos of Helenium cultivars:

http://www.jardiniere.net/Les%20vivaces/Les%20heleniums%20a-b.aspx

Bet it is Canary. Might be "Butterpat" or "Goldfield" however. I am going to email Tower Hill and see if they will tell me.

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