Should Women Surrender to Men in Marriage ?

Yet another side of the coin, hubby and I don't follow rules or
ideas set by other people for how we live our lives. If it works
for others, that is fine for their life. We simply don't subscribe to
ideas from the dinosaur age. Me bigger me boss you around.
No thanks.

We have a mutual understanding that life is to be lived. Living
together, sharing our lives, it's easier that way.

'The man is the ruler of the house' or 'the boss' or 'the woman shall bow'
doesn't cut it with either of us. We both manage our lives together different ways.
It just happens that I seem to manage more because hubby lacks organizational
skills. LOL.

If I 'surrendered', we would have chickens living in the house and a
salvage yard for a garden. We compromise. Most of the time. ;-)

I agree that each should respect and appreciate the other's gifts and use them to better the relationship and the life they share. Chickens running around in the house would definitely not be fun! LOL

Chickens running about the house might not be fun but it would definately make your neighbors think you were "funny" ;~)

Oh, my gosh, they already think that, LOL.

We're not close with the folks across the street, in fact, we
rarely speak only because I think everyone likes it this way.
At any rate, I can only imagine what they think of us. We think
they are nice, but then again, we don't reall yknow them.

This is how gossip begins.

"Yeah, that ole' boy across the street is quite a drinker."
(no, his wife just saves wine bottles for glass projects)

"He makes her do all the work. Ain't never seen him hit a lick.
Always her working, working, working."
(it never fails, when he's on the porch swing or standing around
with his hands on his hips, I'm working in the ditch or something)

Just two examples of how funny things spread. ;-)

WUVIE, my b'friend complains that I run too close to that "chickens in the house" lifestyle.

He says I take everything that should be inside ... and put it outside. That then leaves room so that everything that should be outside ... ends up inside. And he doesn't understand how all those cats & spilled bean seeds end up on the bed.

Summer you know there is a critter or two that doesn`t belong there. lol
I totally believe that eachother should make up for what the other lacks and appreciate that, but it usually is good amo for a future fight. We like making up though so that works too. giggle

LOL, always look for the silver lining!

Yes maybe i`ll go look for mine now. see ya later.

My DH (deceased now) had it all summed up:

"I didn't buy you I just married you!"

Bettypauze ,That is a Fabulous response .
May I use that ? Or do you have copyright on it .
Thanks in advance for your reply . Kell

I answer to or summit to in this order
1 GOD
2 DH
3 the law of the land
After those three i do what I please when I please
my motto is if it doesn't offend God or husband or put me in jail,
lets Boogie

Sing it girl. Kell you need to get your devious little mind around a new topic I`m thinking. Any new questionsthat inquireing minds want to know?

Tazzy...As usual...you're good!! Jo

roadrunner
I am trying to get my groove back .
LOL

funneee thread, wonder how I missed it .

Heya (((TAZZY))) ....... there you is ♥♥♥

Yes Hell I do have one or two .
But unfortunately The Censors would block them out . lol
So in the mean time . This will have to do . Kell

Kell, used it all you would like...lol

Thanks Betty , I really do like it .

*wicked grin *

Bwa ha ha ha!

I remember this back in Home Economics class. We all
died laughing, then came up with a new and updated version
which would never have flown back in those days. What a
riot! My, how things have changed.

Women finally figured out how to take off those shackles
and live a little.

Thanks for the laugh, Scooter. LOL

lol x2

I set fire to my Home Economics class frying with butter ,
was a bad choice to try on me.
I ran the sewing machine over my finger NO! it did not require more stitches.
I was not ,or will ever be a Domestic Diva.
I have a note from my doctor to keep me out of the kitchen
I am not allowed to use sharp objects or play with fire .
Works for me !
TAZZY trying to steal WANDAFOWERS DH BIKE
I was tired of looking at the ( kitchen ) AKA ( storage for fast food )

OOooo, pretty!!! I'm jealous now. I used to buzz around the island on a pink moped when I was stationed in Hawaii--always wanted to upgrade to a pink Harley! Mopeds are too dangerous.

When I go back to work I want to get a new bike. I have a little 250 virago still, that I learned to ride on but it needs repair and we still have our Valkyrie cruiser, but I had an FLHTC like that one your sitting on Taz, but it was just too tall for my stumps. Thats what we need to organize, a ride where we pick up dgers all accross the country, they could ride state to state stealing seed heads from all the states wild flowers. We`re a renagade bunch we are.

I like that idea! Sign me up! LOL

Scooterbug, it is always a hoot to see those old lessons. But womans Liberation freed us from such domestic dictums. Now that we are fully liberated women of the 21st century we get to get up by the alarm, rush to get ready for work, work a full day (and frequently get paid less than the man at the next desk) then come home, pop a load of laundry in the washer, stick a frozen dinner in the microwave, sweep, mop, vacum, pick up after the kids if you have them, shop for groceries, fold the laundry,and explain to the "man of the house" that yes, you do need help with the chores....this reminder must be made daily and sometimes hourly...because the poor dear is tired from work...and he just can't seem to remember that it is ok for him to dust a shelf or pick up his dirty towel without a "gentle" reminder.

Yep. gotta thank those wonderful ladies in years gone by for their valiant efforts and liberating us like this...

Now move over cause I need to hide under ther with ya!
;~P

There certainly is a grain of truth among the wackiness in that 1955 clipping. Taking a few steps to create a peaceful, happy home goes a long way toward the satisfaction of both parties.

ohhh please...I'd smack my husband in the middle of next week if he expected that outta me. He wants a slave he can go buy one he wants a partner I'm right here.

Expects what outta you? A peaceful, happy home?

at your expense ??? NOooo wayy

with the woman`s lib stuff also came prices being raised to accomodate the double incomes. I hate that part, now everyone has to have two incomes to float and our kids will never have a home unless they have a spouse and 4 jobs between them or are in debt up to their ears.

I like being partners but the job division still is not fair in most homes, now we have twice as much to do and less time to do it in.

A lot of truth in this one !!!

I don't work outside of the home because of my health and that's the only reason I dust and clean, not by virtue of the fact I have boobs and a uterus. I cook because I like it. I asked about his day and show intrest because I AM intrested in what he's doing most of the time, if I'm not I don't ask. But no way in #@%% am I meeting him at the door with a drink a smile and a fire...lol if I did he would ask where the dead body was or if I wreaked the the car. BTW I'm married to a born and bred latin and if he can overcome that kinda thinking I think females can too.

My X was from Tecate Mexico and he couldn`t tame this wench either, he was very passive aggressive anyway but he didn`t want to make all the decisions so it worked out for him, I wanted him to participate though and he said, No you don`t, so we never worked that out, er go, divored. My dh`s mom met her h at the door with a martini and had dinner promptly at 5:00pm every day, he ignored her the rest of the night except the peck on the lips at the door. NO WAY EITHER OF US WANT THAT.

I think it would put a grin on Jack's face if I met him at the door with a drink & a kiss & a fire.

My point being that everyone likes to be treated nicely & sometimes we all need to leave the outside world at the door.

Hellnzn, I think you've got it backward. Prices didn't go up to take advantage of double incomes. Both partners began working to meet the higher cost of living.
I think that's what you meant, though, wasn't it?

I have to agree with Zanymuse's first post, and NatureLover. It takes a little effort - but when you are thinking about the other's needs, the effort isn't very difficult. A partnership, each doing what they do best, and contributing to the "shared" life, according to their abilities. And time....time is a very important factor.....when life interferes too much, leave it behind and just spend time enjoying each other. My spouse, my best friend, my lover....the best part of who I am.

That said, I have two comments: I too am from a latin family, and I hated that pedestal.....women on pedestals were usually for sale!
BUT.....
If a man said something or did something in an empty wood - he would still be wrong.

lol Biv no I do believe that home prices went off the charts when women started working as a norm, then it forced others to have to do it too in order to get a house, then everything went up. I don`t want to get political so we better not debate too much on why we believe what we believe, but that is what i meant to say.

i definately wear the pants in the family but my dw tells me what color to wear and how long i get to wear them. life is good.

Hi Shari, could you explain what this means? I've never heard this
phrase. Very interesting:

If a man said something or did something in an empty wood - he would still be wrong.

Another quote from this thread:

My point being that everyone likes to be treated nicely &
sometimes we all need to leave the outside world at the door.

Indeed. It's a nice thought, but not always attainable.
Not everyone lives such a warm and fuzzy life. There are those
of us who are able to accomplish this and some who can not or will not. My
grandparents lived the 'storybook' life as they were expected on the outside, but
inside, you would never know what a rotten life they had. The sweet little people
with children and the Sears Roebuck life. Ahh. But if we could only peek into the
true lives many lived.

He yelled, screamed and banged his fists, was demanding and quite frankly
an ass who passed his temper down. My grandmother was a meek, 'do as you
say, dear husband' type who had no other purpose in life. I don't have any memories
of her laughing or smiling.

All too often back then, even today, people see one family in public and
yet would be shocked to see how their lives are truly lived.

In our home, if you are deserving (and I am in the mood), I'll cut up your dinner
in bite sized pieces, give you a pedicure (while cringing inside, LOL) and
pick your clothes for the next day. I'll bake your favorite dessert and clean your
truck inside and out. Again. If you are deserving.
Don't expect it and make darn sure you don't demand it.

:-)