Best/Worst I learned today, chat with NEW & OLD friends :-)

Happy Birthday to your Mom Betty.

Good luck in court Debbie.

Best of luck in court today..

Chicken soup for Paul..he has to be sick if he takes time off.

So quiet, almost lunch hour, think I will go over to Fabricland and get some fabric for a piece I just finished, (doing a swap on candle theme) well the top anyway is done..tonight if I can stay up beyond 7pm I will applique the pieces and quilt, that being done I can put binding on and have more hand quilting to do this week.

did binding on 6 more placemats..one more set to go and the 14 sets of 6 will be done and ready to wrap.

Hope you are all doing something more fun than I..want to share..

know Dianne is playing with Duke

Quick update here. I'm in chula Vista, Ca. Had car trouble that held me up and I'm postponing trip to northern Ca, and retirement board.

Looks like a hurricane is headed toward my Mexico home. Tony will take care of everything.

I have some business to take care; will head home soon if the weather is clear.

will catch up later. hugs, katie

Sorry about the trouble with your vehicle Katie, sad that you got as close to your destination re retirement board and now have to give up fighting for your cause..if you are having your vehicle repaired could you not still continue to head north? Know you are worried about your home and the furries but I'm sure Tony is looking after everything.

be safe

Saga just gets worse..

Just got a call re Noah

apparently it was all over the news most of the day that Noah was missing and they were concerned for his wellbeing..entire police force was out, found him only minutes ago in Victoria Harbour..he said he'd not to to Toronto for the assessment, guess he screwed that up..wonder if they can see that something has to be done..I'd rather see him under key in a prison than this..waiting for a call to say he's done himself in..just numb and not sure how to feel

How does he keep getting out of the hospital? I think I would press charges against someone.
Sending lots of prayers.

Any one can see that Noah is clearly showing just how much help he does need. I so hope his cry is recognized.

Greg just called...

Today he was discharged to Greg and Mel who were bringing him to Toronto for a 4-6hr assessment. He had just gotten into the car when he asked if he could have his phone, they handed it to him but hadn't thought about charging it so it was dead..he threw the phone and smashed it, said he had nothing to live for that he isn't sick, that they were not going to take him to any doctors. Greg stopped for a red light and Noah jumped out..Police got the dogs and managed to find him 4 1/2 hrs later.

Greg said he's back in the hospital under guard, this week will be quite different

last week he wouldn't eat hospital food, Melanie/Greg would bring him food of choice..not this week

was on the good days allowed visitors, this week there will be no visitors

either Melanie or Greg were with him so he'd not fret about being alone..this week they will go back to their jobs and visit once a day for 10 minutes or so

They are beside themselves as am I
just sick to my tummy

nightmare it is

Wish I was closer to give you a big hug!

talking to Jeff who is trying to calm me down, not working!

(((Betty))) Now things are getting serious re handling Noah. I wondered when the boom would be lowered about visitors and treats. Plus the bringing in of food just feeds Noah's sense of entitlement. I hate to sound so harsh but this whole situation has to be faced head on with everything laid bare. Once Noah does get into treatment you will see he has to earn such things as take out food, phone time, computer time, a pass out of the hospital - .mis and/or inappropriate behaviour will not be rewarded.

Betty you are not a bad grandma for wishing that Noah be behind bars. You care so much for him
that you want to do whatever is possible to help him on the way to recovery.Every child should be so lucky to have a grandmother who cares as much as you do.

Sending positive thoughts as well as prayers of comfort and strength.
Dianne
Club D sends you love and hugs Betty.

Sadly now Noah needs to learn that he is NOT the one in charge. Tough love hurts but is what is needed at this point.

Betty, I agree with Dianne very much. Remember when I wished DS would get locked up, that way I knew he was safe and not in harms way?

That woman messed up Noah by whatever she did, and sadly, I think it was more than drugs.
BUT that was the start. Someone needs to ask him if she touched him....you know my history, and this is what my mind sees.

BIG hugs....we all love you lady

Debbie

Sending our love too Betty. I'm so sorry to read all this. But I, too, must agree with Dianne and the others that maybe now he will find out he is NOT entitled. Tough love is the only thing now and I have seen it work. It is so hard to live through I know. Sending gentle hugs to you and prayers for some rest as well. Sending prayers for Greg and Mel and Kyle as well. This must be so hard for them.

What does one say to you Betty, words are just the. words. but, all of us are putting our hearts in our words ..
My nephew /niece had to have their boy incarcerated after his brush with drugs .. it made them sick at heart. but. like Dianne said, the consequences for bad behaviour have to be ones the child remembers.
This situation is taxing on everyone, but I think having Noah spend 'down time' ALONE is good.
HUGE hugs ..

Katie, awful news re the vehicle !!

Got my nails done today and went with DH to his knee assessment .. they will let him carry on with no surgery until he feels he can no longer handle it .. he has excellent muscle tone above and below his knees, helping him along .. all in all a good appt.

Off to watch NCIS (new season)

Toodles

~M~

A small ray of sunshine for us. DGD who was in trouble with Rx drugs, second time in re-hab, sat down with my son tonight and for the first time he could see a change in her. He feels she is now clean, she is no longer vindictive to him and says he can now see her daughter who is with her mother his ex. She says she realizes that she was wrong in striking out at the family and wants to make amends. She is not my son's daughter and he never adopted her because her fathers family was really against it. However he has been the only father she has known since she was 2. They were always very close. When she had her daughter, he was there and fell so in love with that baby, she is the light of his life. So when GD fell into drugs and consequently fell out with him, she told him he could never see the baby again. This has been going on for months and son has been so distraught. He still loves her as a daughter and we do as a GD. She also says she knows she hurt me and lied about me and wants to call me. I am so hoping this is the light at the end of a very long tunnel.

Hello To All;

Troubled times.... SILIO sounds like she is turning a corner and I'm sure it will take time but a move in the right direction....
Deb hope Court worked out today...
Betty - our location is Baton Rouge... only one place on the website mentions that and he is working on adding it to the rest...
I agree about the "toughlove" I sure wish I had met with those substance clinics before DS was a teen. ....it really opened my eyes. They said the worst abusers weren't the "bad" Schools in town but the best schools where the parents tend to coddle the kids more (and that sounds like me with DS)
DUKE Is so precious... Mom had a "Duke" as well. He was the alpha dog and passed away (I believe) because he knew mom was terminal.

She was just over visiting after being hospitalized and my family had to tell her the news.

She just said "I guess he knew".

Duke will be a wonderful companion to Diesel....

Silio, LK, Deb, Marion, Marilyn Thanks for the good thoughts on the shop. The New orleans founders were shy about putting pics with Rachel Ray and Alton Brown, etc....but still let us keep them on there, it speaks volumes to their product.

Check back soon
HUGS
Mary

Mary...I almost got arrested. No lie. I swear my Mom was involved!

Sheriff: Excuse me miss, but you look familiar. Whats your name?

Me: Debbie G.

Sheriff: Well, darn....not the one. But thanks.

Me: (Looking at lawyer) Chris, what was that about?

Chris(Lawyer) : Deb, he thought you were someone on a warrant, and he was going to arrest you!

Me: (channeling my inner Betty) You mean I could have gotten arrested and frisked!!!! I'll change my name!!! Who does he want???

At which point....DD about sank into the floor....and Chris...who has known me for years and said "keep my number handy sweetheart".

DD made out well....Over all, no points but a fine and stern warning and a big scare.

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AWE! DEBBIE! BETTER LUCK NEXT TIME! (HUGS)
You just can't catch a break can you my dear ?

I may just have to send you multiple packages via UPS in sympathy.....

Good news for DD....

(HUGS)
Mary

LOL, love that sense of humor Debbie.

"M" If I don't maintain the sense of humor and see the bright spots.....I will just loose it.

SO, I try and laugh...even at myself.

Good idea.....I constantly am laughing at myself......otherwise I might be crying and have done enough of that in the past few weeks.

Have a great day....happy about the outcome with court.

Yes, I was happy with the outcome as it came out of our pocket right now. She IS paying us back
for this...but we had to pay upfront as she lost her job. I wish they would have implemented driving school also.

Got news two classmates passed away Monday...same Graduating class..same town. One was very close to DH, so I know what the next couple days will hold. Both only 52.

Very happy to look outside and see sunshine!!!

"M" How are those exercises doing?

Betty I have been up most of the night and spent a lot of it stewing about you and your family. It makes me so angry that the system has fallen even farther behind than when I was active in it. Beds have always been difficult to obtain because there are just too few of them. Mary is so right about what schools to watch for drug use. Teens whose parents can provide them with so many things have no lack of funds to buy drugs at any level be it weed or meth.Interesting too when I was with the Scarborough system the schools that had the more well to do parents had the most support be in LD or behavioural, school teams, choirs, band. One of my schools I serviced was in a slum public housing area and those poor kids were constantly before the courts for theft. They weren't stealing for drugs but money to buy food for themselves and the family. Often a 14 year old boy would be the father figure in the household.

Silio it made me smile to read about your DGD. Drugs mess with our minds so badly that you can't really believe what comes out of our loved ones mouths.Congratulations to your DGD and I send thoughts of hope and strength she will be able to continue on her path to recovery. She is so lucky to have your DS and of course yourself in her court.

Duke is adjusting fairly well. I swear he has no bones though! When Diesel all 130 lb of him plays with Duke, Duke can just fold himself up to nothing than bounce right back up at Diesel. There is going to be a steep learning curve for Duke but he seems to catch on quickly. He has already learned as soon as you get in the door from a walk you go to a sit position and then you are given treats. He is so hungry it breaks my heart to think of what he looked like when he arrived from Kentucky. Yesterday when the cleaning lady was here he just freaked. I had him downstairs with Diesel and I. Dawn is a little rough and with the hardwood floors and being downstairs the noise was very loud. Duke started to shake, climbed under the futon and wouldn't come out. I finally went under the futon with him and shortly Diesel joined us. The little guy loves affection, he can't seem to get quite close enough to you when he gets a hug. Definitely thinking a king sized bed is in my future.

Debbie you keep that lawyer's card handy. I am worried when you and Betty meet up the next time the 2 of you will get into no good. I'm just envious because I would like to be there with you.

How is the new kitten doing Marion?

Susan I was glad to read things have improved at work. Now you will get a chance to show what a valuable employee you are.

Debbie how are things now for Shane in Colorado?

Mary I checked out the link - very nice! Just remember to breathe!!!

So M are you cooking up feast every day for Lorna's parents? My DH always used to ask people (that's was before he didn't want anyone to stay overnight) when they were going home as he was gaining weight. How about the exercises? Getting easier every day?

Hope our Judy is still enjoying her work. She would make sunshine out of any day anyway but I sure hope her days cause her to smile.

Barb how are you and Norm enjoying your new digs?

Duty calls. In the form of another walk with the dogs. Mary we will go look for some frogs. Marvelouslly entertaining for Diesel and Duke.Hope you aren't squeamish? Makes me think of when I was a kid and we used to catch frogs and eat them. Well after they were cooked!!!

Dianne
Dianne

Afternoon,

Thanks Dianne

By the time I left work yesterday afternoon I was so worked up and head pounding, took something and went to bed, 5:30pm

at 6pm I heard someone in the house, was Kyle, he sat on the bed and kept gabbing away, poor kid, just wanted to chat about school, Noah actually anything, not leave till 9pm.

While he was there I had a few calls, friends who heard the news and were concerned..couldn't talk so made calls this a.m. didn't take too long as I get too emotional

Haven't talked to anyone, just an email from Melanie, she's rather overwhelmed by it, as well, her resolve is minimal, e-mail I received from her late last night said she was going today and taking him home..I sent several e-mails to her, do understand how difficult it is..we'll see what results.

Kyle just came in, again full of news

Seems last night after he left my house at 9pm and got home, someone was in the yard trying to get in

Greg went out to sit and see if the individual came back, not sure where he was hiding but did so for 40 minutes, Kyle finally (imagine this) knife in hand and one in his pocket went looking for his dad..shortly after Greg put flood lights out because someone was seen again, friend of his went behind back bush and put his vehicle lights on..didn't see the individual again.

Melanie who was still at the hospital e-mailed Kyle and told him incase Greg would be needed he was to go spend the night at his other grandmothers, they are finding it difficult as well. So until this mess quietens with Greg/Mel not being around much he's to stay either with me or with his other grandparents.

Then Kyle went on to tell me about Mel and Greg's best friends, if you remember I said Laurie works for Children's Aid, Dan and Greg spend a lot of time together, Kyle spends a lot of time with their son who is his age, younger son is Noah's age, don't believe they spend a lot of time together but who knows..seems Nathan has been going through same as Noah, she came home the other day and had to call 911 he had taken pills, last night after hearing about Noah he left home, hasn't been found as yet, all are terribly worried.

How did life ever get so complicated?

Goodness. So much going on. Sending prayers for all.
I sure they don't take Noah home.

GGD Sammi 7 got a cast on her foot. Seems while with her dad on the week-end she came off a swing wrong. It was swollen and she told her dad it really hurt but he said it will be fine and besides the "ER is closed" By the time she got home the swelling was down so of course he didn't mention it. She complained to mom who took her in and was sent for xrays. They called her and had appt. to get a cast.

Oh no. Hope it is not broken too bad.

No just below her big toe. She's taking it just fine as you can see from the photo. Just upsetting that he is sooo irresponsible.

Dear Betty,
Norm and I are just heartsick over what you are going through. If only there were some way to bring you some comfort. Please know that we are holding you and your family close in our hearts and sending prayers for a resolution that will help Noah the most. I feel so bad for Greg and Mel. I don't know how I would handle a situation like that.

And dear Kyle. He so needs you now more than ever to be there for him. He needs the voice of reason to just listen to his concerns and to make him feel like he is just as important at this moment as his brother. Tell him how proud you are of the way he is handling this and that you are there for him. You may not be able to do anything for Noah at this tme but you sure can for Kyle.

Sending extra prayers for both these boys.....
Barb and Norm

Karen - so sorry to read about your GGD. Sometimes these Dads don't have a clue!!! Hope she is okay.

Betty my heart is just overjoyed at how much Kyle loves and needs you!!

Right now I think Kyle and Betty need each other, and that's a good thing.

Oh Karen, she will enjoy getting mega attention, people signing the cast..sad that her dad didn't realize it was broken! She's adorable..

Thanks everyone..

Barb indeed Kyle is needing some loving care, he came in with pizza, ate and gabbed and back to college.. Wednesday is his long day.

At 3:00 pm who comes back to spend a few more hours, Kyle..
He went and got me lunch, started to tell me all about fast foods, I have Netflix on my iPad so he brought up documentary 'super size it' all about the ills of eating it..movie ended and back to school for his evening class.

I've been sitting here quietly, at least I'm not in bed, trying to stay up another hour or so in hopes Greg will call with how their day with Noah went..will feel better/perhaps worse after the call but need news.

I'd like to find out if any news about Nathan also

When I first moved here I looked after Nathan before and after school for a few months..bet these 2 families wish these boys would be back to needing sitters...

So much news and info, hard to keep it all in order in my 'vacuous abyss' LoL

Betty, there was a piece on the CBC Toronto news tonight about the LACK of $$ being spent on mental health care and young offenders, I was all ears .. at the end of the piece there was really no solution offered .. I felt awful as the people interviewed were so in need of help .. sad.

Re my exercises .. down to just 4 now (from7) .. 20 "clam shells' twice a day, 20 lifts of the right leg while on my L side (ow) 2xs a day, flippin right leg (operative side) feels like it weighs 500 pounds !! Balancing on my right leg, now there's a real toughie .. I can only do it, so far, to the count of 10, real fast counting LoL, and, last but not least swinging my right leg out to the side 20 times, holding each swing for 5 seconds .. twice a day .. I was getting 'lazy' but have gotten back on track .. having company is making me tired, and i never seem to have the time to do the manoeuvres .. BUT, I can sure sleep real well LoL

Everyone take good care ..

Hugs all around

~M~

Ahhh Betty, so glad Kyle is spending so much time with you. Something I feel you both need..

Sammi is quite the character, does well in school, but at times gets very very stubborn, When she sets her head not much can change it and she especially bumps wills with her mom. Dad tends to just want to be the "fun" parent. refuses to do Dr. appts. or school conferences, anything that might call for him to do actual parenting. Keeps telling the kids their mom is a bad person and when they are old enough they can come live with him. Quite baffled that he would ignore Sammi saying she was in pain and obvious swelling.

Hello All ;

Silio....similar situation when the girls were little. Tell Mom that Karma WILL happen if my life has any bearing on it... The girls now know who took care of them and who was crazy.... Not completely as of yet but at least they now treat me with respect.

Dianne.... Picturing you crawling under the futon with Duke.... LOL... Yes GOOD ADVICE (Deep Breath in....out....in). Our guys went in the "space" today. LOL re: Frogs... I do love frogs but Bell and I are out for genocide on the Pool Bugs.....we are a team.

Betty Yes Kyle is needing you he is definitely not getting any attention lately... I'm sure he needs some as well... glad you are there for him and he is there for you..... (HUGS BARB - good point)

Yes Deb sometimes we have to create our own comedy.... trying to figure out how to send UPS your way LOL

HUGS all....
Mary

My night not to sleep ! Perhaps it's the full moon, but, more likely it's thinking about what to cook for supper today.
Having company is nice, but, lots of planning involved.

Think it's wonderful Kyle has such wonderful grandparents to lean on.

Best try to regain my piece of the bed ! Lilly and Piper sure do have theirs. Lol

M

ah Betty - reading about Noah - my prayers are with you and the family - I'm feeling heartsick about this.....

Good for you, Dianne - re: new puppy (?! big dog)

Debbie - keeping u in my thoughts - yesterday was court day?

Heading to work - will post later