Best/Worse/What did I learn today? Chat with friends,new/old

Betty,such a tough place for a Gramma to be in. I am also thinking that you may not be allowed to visit right now. Noah will be going through so many emotions, some of them might upset you even more (not that he would mean to), perhaps let Greg or Melanie tell you when you can see him?
There's a set of 'Standard Operating Procedures' that these units follow, and they are set up for the benefit of the patient/child, once they are evaluated things change re visitors.

I have such an ache in my heart for Greg and Melanie, and you of course. Would imagine Kyle will handle it in his own way.

Sending you thoughts and prayers and comforting hugs as well.

~M~

I thank you for your support heart warming to know you are there holding my hand!

Spoke to Greg, apparently they talked and Noah said he'd like me to drop in tonight..will try but if it seems to disturb him or that I can't keep my emotions under control I shall leave.

Big sigh

Just know that we are all there with you. and if you need to, bite the inside of your cheek. This will either give you an excuse to weep or hide the fact that you are. My prayers are so strong for you now and like all the others, I pray for Greg and Melanie and for Kyle. He may need a place to talk as well.....

Please know that we will be with you in Spirit Betty! Give him gentle hugs from all of us!

Just had control of my emotions and voila Kyle drops in to see if I'm ok???
Poor thing, I broke down and couldn't stop sobbing!

Let Kyle comfort you Betty! he arrived for a reason!

Had a few laughs, quite the character.

He told me that they will keep Noah in the hospital for 72 hrs. then he is being sent to a hospital in Toronto..not sure he'd get it wrong so guess that is what they will do

Be brave dear Betty as this is what he needs. He is so fortunate in that he has family that will stand behind him. So many young people are completely pushed away if they hit this point.
Holding you close in my heart and when the time is right, let Noah know that we are all praying for him....

Betty please listen to what everyone is telling you. Do not be fooled by any promises Noah makes no matter how much he whines, cries or vows he will change. It has been my experience working with at risk youth when they find themselves in this exact situation they will do/say absolutely anything to convince you they will immediately change their ways. Not going to happen.

Know your visit will be a difficult one for you but you should be very pleased Noah even wants to come see him. Stay strong and don't be fooled if he tries to sweet talk his Grandma.We will all be there with you in spirit Betty.
Dianne

Deep sigh,

Got to the hospital, asked to see Noah, was told to wait in sitting room..few minutes Melanie came out looking lke death warmed over.

Nurse thought n Noah's present state it would be better I ot see him

Had worked himself not a tizzy, can't believe his parents would call police and that they in turn would charge him..all Greg and Melanie's fault.

Melanie trying to tell him there are consequences and this is his consequence..doesn't work, he's 15' doesn't have to answer to anyone..Greg is very black/white, Noah hates him..

Then comes the big kick, in all of Ontario there are only 80 beds for these children needing help, all are filled..hospital he is in needs beds so will keep him 72 hrs and likely to be sent home and not for help...Lordy what can a parent do??

Said I would help where I can

Told Melanie to tell Oah I love him, best I could do tonight.

broke down, hugged Mel

Drained as well. Deep sigh

Betty, I know how hard that must have been, hang tight. I know it is easier said than done
So sad that those children who need help can't get it because of bed space. Sending hugs.

Betty, he is going to hate everyone right now, as he got caught doing bad things. That is normal. All you can do when you do see him, is be strong, but show him he is loved.

Just know Betty, that it's the drugs talking. If and when he gets through this the true Noah will return but right now he's a different person and no one will matter as much to him as his drugs. He will lie, cheat, steal and promise the moon, anything to get his next fix. Anyone he thinks is standing between him and the drugs he will revile. It hurts so terribly but you have to harden your heart until he can be in control of his life again. It might take a private treatment facility which will be expensive but right now you are all fighting for his very life.

Betty, do you know what kind of drugs he has been on?

Just got back fom the hospital, got a call to come

Just drained

Poor police guard sitting at the door of a drab looking room, barely a blanket on the bed saw how distraught I was, actually gave me a hug, wiped a tear and told me all will be ok

Biggest heartbreak is listening to Noak say he gets up every morning and never anything o look forward to, just broke my heart

Marijuana LindaKay

Glad you were able to go visit Betty.

He got very upset while I was there, distraught..
SayS he is a failure, what if he can't get off drugs

Said it wasn't right his parents called police, told him I was thankful they did, he does need help

Don't know what to say Betty... many of us have been through this... Me with DS....

It is difficult but you can't blame yourself... (HUGS) It takes TIME

(HUG)S
Mary

Betty, we have all had this problem somewhere in our lives. Marijuana is easier to kick than heroin or oxicotoin (sp). One of the main problems is they will steal from family or friends to get money to buy their drugs. They will look you right in the eye, give you a big hug and lie their heads off.

At least he is young. Need to know where he is getting the money and who is he buying from.

Saying prayers for you, Noah and all those that surround him. Also sending prayers for the babies. So much for you to worry about Betty.

I am on here late. Getting better everyday. Had my teeth cleaned today and as long as I was hanging with my head tilted downward in the dentist chair, I did not cough. I guess I need to sleep with my head hanging over the side of the bed.

If I had to hire a gardener as good as we all are, I could not afford it. So I let them do all the heavy work and just try to do all my cutting the day before they get here. They trimmed the mesquite tree today big time so I gave all three of them a $20 tip. They deserved it. And I supervised and got it done the way I wanted it and that was much cheaper than a tree service.

I have to cut this short and go to bed. Doctor's office rescheduled my Dr.'s appointment to next Tuesday so I do not have to leave the neighborhood.

Hugs to you all. Sharon

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I go to work for a day and look at what happens!!! Let me tell ya, when my dad got busted with his 4th DUI about 10 years ago he was pissed at the cop, said it was the cops fault that he had been drinking, he was in his mid 50's then. I was all "WHA?????? Yeah Dad, the cop made you go to the bar and drink." Just like what everyone's said, they lash out at the ones who get them in trouble, it is ALWAYS someone else's fault and they ALWAYS promise the moon to the ones they think will help them out. Noah will hate his parents for awhile, this is perfectly normal, Greg DID do the right thing and I know you know that. Noah needs some serious counselling, this sounds more like a depression problem than a drug problem, he's covering up a big depression issue with the pot, he gets stoned and zones out on something and doesn't have to face whatever is bothering him. Big big big big hugs to you Betty and I am praying someone finds out what's going on, fast.

Morning all,

Starting my morning with prayers feeling for those who wake this September 11th morning remembering loved ones who lost their lives on this day so many years ago, so many years ago yet like today! difficult day as all emotions felt return to the surface.

Happy birthday Marion, now will Kim bake a specialty cake for you?

Slept fairly well, headache this morning, stress related I'm sure.

Taking you all for your guidance

We love you Betty and Noah as well. Today will be a better one. All of our prayers are with you.
Thank you for your remembrance of 9/11. It will be a difficult day for so many people.

Happy Birthday Marion.

Most Happy Birthday Marion.

Thank you very much.

Betty, still sending hugs and prayers for you and your family.

Happy Birthday Marion, have a great day ^_^

I haven't wanted to even think about Sept. 11 what with all this chemical warfare talk with Syria and now Russia! Can't imagine the floods of emotion being felt in NY and the rest of North America.

Woke up thinking of you Betty. Know that we all feel your angst and sadness, and, those of us who have been in close proximity to situations like these, have seen POSITIVE outcomes .. but, to get there, there is heartache.
My niece's son used SALVIA (yes the plant) smoked it AND added some OXYS to that stolen from his Grandmas bedside table !! He ended up in ICU, scared the bejeebers out of him and, following that his parents put him into rehab. He did turn around his life, had been a 'follower', but became very much a leader.
Our prayers are with you and your family, never doubt that.

Lorna goes for a fitting for a new socket (upper leg) today, I'm going with her as i haven't seen the staff in months, such great people.
As well, Austin (grndsn) is thinking of joining a Pipe band .. we have 3 in the city,so, trying to set him up with the right one ... anything to get those electronics out of his hands !!

Sharon, I fer sure would have tipped the team too! Sounds as though they did an awesome job. SO, did you sleep with your head hanging over the bed ? Funny how that goes .. i always put it down to the antiseptic smell in the dental office !!

Off to make a cuppa


Toodles

~M~

Betty our Crissy made some really important and valid points. It is ALWAYS everyone else's fault never the person at the center of this whirling vortex. Its natural for Noah to be so angry with his parents. Don't be surprised at some point if that anger is not turned towards you especially if he puts you in a situation where you have to be firm with him or actually say that dreaded word NO. Right there with you Betty. Sending prayers of comfort and strength.Praying that a bed space will open up for Noah before his release from the hospital.

Happy Birthday Marion. Any special plans for the day?

I so well remember Sept 11 as we were in the process of building this house. The boarders came in early - around 5am to start their day. I went down later to see exactly what they were doing. They had a radio set up in what is now my kitchen. As I walked into the house the news was on. Wow! A memory that will never leave me much like I am sure everyone has a memory if where they were when President Kennedy was killed.

Crissy how is the new job panning out? Hope you are as happy as Judy is with hers.

Susan, I sure hope your work environment is becoming less toxic.

Did you see that bear M?

Dianne

Thanks Dianne, no special plans today but my son is taking me out to dinner Friday evening.

I think we all remember so vividly where we were on this day. My hubby and I were in Key Largo on a consulting job. He had taken the day off so we could do something for my birthday but just as he came in from checking on the job, the news flashed. I called my BF in Gainesville as both of her sons worked near the area....she was in the yard working and hadn't heard.
Well anyway, Ross and I totally forgot it was my birthday until about 3 days later.....was okay as one can celebrate a birthday any time they choose. That is my story and I am sticking with it.

happy birthday,Maid M,

Betty I also forgot to mention that while these days will seem like some of the worst days of your life they can also be some of the best days of Noah's life if he choses to follow the new path that will be laid out for him.

Dinner Friday sounds wonderful Marion. Of course it will be great as you will be with your son. How is Kim finding her workload this semster?

Mary sending positive and calming thoughts your way. You and Lance can do this....... its just all those horrible details that get in your way.

Hot here already and it is drawing the black snakes out even in early morning. Mary you would not have enjoyed our walk this am as we came across 4 rather large black snakes was we rambled around.

Dianne

Happy Birthday from me, too.

Betty...so know how you're feeling. My DS ended up in rehab 24 years ago. That did the trick for him and he has been clean and sober since then. I'm hoping that Noah will decide he doesn't want to do drugs any more....that is a very important step in his recovery. He has to WANT to stop using. My son didn't shoot up, but he did just about all other drugs. Marijuana was his drug of choice. Be glad that Noah is only doing marijuana, cause it will lead to harder stuff. As I look back I realize how lucky we were that he wasn't killed by a dealer, over dosed or killed in an accident while high. Scary, scary time....big prayers for you and Greg's family.

Also praying so hard right now for the babies. Doesn't sound good for Addy. Happy for the 4 lbs. for Alex.

Love you all and I'm praying for each and every one of you today as well.

Dianne, Kim is having some what of a rough time as she teaches full day (no planning period) and each class is a double. ie: combinations of levels as first year students and 4 years all mixed together. They seriously need to hire another Spanish teacher but supposedly no funds available. Thanks for asking about her.

Your walks sound like so much fun until you mentioned the snakes....yikes don't think I would enjoy that part! Wait!! I KNOW I wouldn't enjoy that part.

Was hoping to go outside while it is still cooler but my next door neighbor is having some major remodeling done to their house. The sound of jack hammers is bad enough inside but out it is unbearable. Guess I will work inside again today. Bummer!!!!

Happy birthday, Marion. Have a good one. And enjoy dinner on Friday.

Betty, please remember to take care of yourself. Spend sometime with friends who are not in crisis, surely you have some. If not, go find some.

We are waiting on the mechanic who did show up late yesterday but tells me I need a new starter motor.

Two dragonfruit are loaded with flowers; the guavas continue to perfume the area.

When Noah is out you might take him to some AA meetings. I agree with crissy about depression probably being the root of the problem. Most people in AA are coping with it and it will give you time with Noah without listening to his complaints.

My thoughts and prayers are with all of you.

hugs, katie

In the 90s again today but forecast is for night time frost by the week-end. Makes sewing hard with no air but I will get some done before it heats up too much. I hadn't really wanted to bring in the plants so soon but suppose I must.

CRACK,BANG, KABOOM .. we have thunderstorms passing through the area, and drenching rains .. nice to have really .. the rain that is ...

Dianne, not sure which I dislike more, snakes or bears, but, I do think I could get away from a snake, but a big old black bear would be a different scenario .. whichever, there'd be a whole lotta screaming going on LoL

Katie, your 2 blooming trees/bushes sound wonderful, especially the guava, enjoy.

Darkening up out there again, I think I'll shut'er down this time .. as always thinking of everyone who have plates full to overflowing ....

Toodles

~M~

Asking for prayers for my nephew Steven Dennis. He was rushed to the ER this morning with chest pains, and they found the sac around his heart has a infection in it! My Sister just called me when she found out. This is her youngest son. He lives in Tennessee, and she can't get there right now, as she is still in the hospital from her surgery on Monday!
Thanks so much!

Sending prayers LindaKay for your nephew Steven Denis, your sister must be beside herself not being able to travel and be by his side...guess only meds can rid the infection?

computer system is really slow today, barely get on the internet.

Haven't been outside yet, say it's extremely hot adding the humidex..

snakes, yikes I'd go for the bear I think. always worry when working near the pond/rocks that I'll come across snakes.

Talked to Greg, said Melanie has been with Noah all morning, I'll check in before leaving to see if I can drop in for a few minutes

tired today

LindaKay, sounds like Steven perhaps has 'pericarditis' .. it's treatable, lasts a couple to a few weeks though. I wish him well .. talking about FULL PLATES, your sister certainly has one hecuva one, prayers heading south for her and her son.

I thought about the snake/bear thing, decided I really wouldn't tolerate either very well.

Betty, it's good Melanie is spending the day with Noah, she's a very strong woman, look at all she has doen for Kyle re his education.

Started up the computer as the sun was out, now I see the darkness creeping in once again ..

Stay well all

Toodles


~M~

I think that is what she called it, and yes, can be treated with meds! he will be in the hospital for about 72 hours or so, treated with strong pain meds, and antibiotics!

HAPPY HAPPY BIRTHDAY MARION!!!!! Have a most wonderful day!!

Dianne I haven't started the new one yet, I was working at Hobby, I start the new one on Monday and I'll probably be gone, they already said we're not allowed to get on the computer at work, it's used strictly for prospecting during down time.

Betty thank you for recognizing 9/11, that was a very sad day. I was at my boyfriend at the time's house getting ready for work, I was an assistant manager at a mini storage back then, and he said that a plane crashed into one of the towers, then when the second plane crashed he said "something is definitely up here." Then the one that crashed in PA.

LK glad your nephew is going to be ok! Quite the scare.

Katie so sorry you need a new starter! Hopefully you can get that fixed ASAP.

Well I'm heading out to clean the garage.