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| Neutral | RubyVox (7 reviews) | On Apr 24, 2008, RubyVox Boston, MA (Zone 6a) wrote: I’m always confused when people complain about Spring Hill. “You get what you pay for”. The prices are really low and so is the quality. If you grow plants from seed, but need a jump-start on a few, Spring Hill is the perfect place to pick up a few very teeny plants to place under grow lamps until next season. It is what it is. |
| Negative | rs2008 (2 reviews) | On Apr 22, 2008, rs2008 Lexington, KY wrote: I placed an order with this company for some daylilies around the first of April of this year. As I checked the website, the estimated delivery time kept being moved back. I finally emailed them about this and while they didn't respond to me the delivery date moved up to April 20-22. I think the fact I filed a claim with the BBB helped speed things up. They claim to have shipped the package April 17th, but checking the UPS site they actually mailed it April 21. In the mean time they supplied me with a tracking number which was at worst bogus, at best no help since the package hadn't been shipped. |
| Neutral | muddelicious (3 reviews) | On Apr 22, 2008, muddelicious Seattle, WA wrote: I should have known better but I bought an improved meyer lemon "tree" from them for $20 but it turned out to be a stick with some leaves on it. It did have a few unopened flower buds on it but it didnt appear to have good strong root system so I think they just cut a twig off a big tree and stuck it in some rooting hormone and called it a day. It is also ugly and oddly shaped. We'll see if it turns out to be of any use. Beware, if you think it sounds like a good deal it probably isnt. I didnt give them a negative because I didnt expect much since their website doesnt give the customer any idea about how big the "tree" is they are sending you. I probably wont buy from them again just because there are better places out there that send great looking trees. They did ship reasonably fast though. On Apr 22, 2008, Spring Hill Nursery (aka SpringHillNursery.com) responded with: " On May 27, 2008 8:29 AM, Spring Hill Nurseries added: Contacted Customer on 4/22/08 for possible resolution; as of 5/27/08 have received no response." |
| Positive | hdmonster (5 reviews) | On Apr 21, 2008, hdmonster Portland, OR wrote: I have had a similar experience with Spring Hill as many of the gardeners here. I should preface that I am not an expert gardener, so someone with more experience may have better luck. In my experience, I had a high ratio of non-growers. They do stand behind their guarantee, but a second shipment of plants that don't grow doesn't help very much. If you call to report non-growing plants, you get the hard-sell to buy something else. The plants that have survived are performing relatively well, but my survival rate was less than 50%. On May 2nd, 2008, hdmonster added the following: I received a very nice message from Spring Hill offering to replace the plants that didn't grow. I will report back when I receive them, but it's nice to know they're watching these reviews and trying to fix the issues that come up. On May 27th, 2008, hdmonster changed the rating from neutral to positive and added the following: Received a big package of healthy looking plants. Really appreciate the follow up! |
| Neutral | Biker1 (7 reviews) | On Apr 21, 2008, Biker1 McLean, VA (Zone 7a) wrote: I ordered 3 Bolivian Begonias and 3 Monarda Jacob Kline. They were shipped to me a full month before our last frost. One begonia arrived broken. By planting time, none were viable. On April 25th, 2008, Biker1 changed the rating from negative to neutral and added the following: I wrote an e-mail to Spring Hill about the problem and never received an answer. However, after I phoned them, they quickly agreed to refund my purchases. I preferred a refund because I had already repurchased the plants from another nursery. On Apr 21, 2008, Spring Hill Nursery (aka SpringHillNursery.com) responded with: " On May 27, 2008 8:30 AM, Spring Hill Nurseries added: I contacted the Customer via this web site on 4/22/08 for a possible resolution; as of 5/27/08, I have received no response." |
| Neutral | AMangan (1 review) | On Apr 18, 2008, AMangan Arnold, MO wrote: I ordered from Spring Hill in early March after receiving a catalog in the mail, and on a whim ended up spending nearly $200. Every day I check my order detail to find that the delivery estimate has been pushed back. Finally concerned that my plants might not arrive at a time suitable for planting, I contacted customer service. I can't say the representative was exactly rude, but he certainly didn't display a winning personality. He was unable to give me any concrete answer as to when the plants will be shipped--he even indicated it could be late into the summer. He suggested that I continue to check my order status, and said "if it gets too late, just cancel the order." Well. After reading the feedback on the site, I have half a mind to just cancel the order and continue my shopping with local nurseries. On April 18th, 2008, AMangan added the following: I went ahead with canceling my order, and feel only a sense of relief at not having to worry about the matter any longer. |
| Positive | Jen_D (3 reviews) | On Apr 17, 2008, Jen_D Millerstown, PA (Zone 6b) wrote: Placed a small order using the free $20. All arrived well packed, healthy and are doing great out in the garden. Order arrived quickly. I will not hesitate to order from them again! |
| Positive | wildebeests (1 review) | On Apr 16, 2008, wildebeests Bellingham, WA wrote: I ordered a dwarf burning bush and it arrived in 2 weeks. Plant was healthy, blooming, and packed carefully. Looks great out in the garden. |
| Positive | WendyRN (4 reviews) | On Apr 13, 2008, WendyRN Coeburn, VA wrote: I bought double pink hollyhocks, peaches and dreams hollyhocks, delphinium, and Virginia bluebells. Everything, especially the hollyhock roots & plants, was huge and ridiculously healthy. No complaints here. |
| Positive | jerseyhole (1 review) | On Apr 12, 2008, jerseyhole Townsend, DE wrote: I just recently moved in to a new home, and the plantings that the bulder put in were substandard. Looking online for plants at reasonable prices, I too was sucked into Spring Hill's $20 no minimum order coupon. I ordered 10 mums, and received them fairly quickly. They arrived in these mini 2" containers, and although they looked healty, I was unimpressed. Still, I went ahead with my plan of planting them along the border of my front flower beds, and by the time the fall came, they were bushes with a 3 foot diameter and looked more like a hedge! When winter came, I trimmed them back, and now here we are in April, spring just coming into bloom, and these plants are healty, and already 1 foot across!!! I love this company. I have found their customer service to be very helpful, whenever I have called. I find that even though I am still in the trial and error period of finilizing my gardens, I can count on Spring Hill for healty plants, and a variety of styles, colors, sizes, and bloom times. Even the dwarf fig, that was sent in a three inch pot, and maybe measured a foot tall, is now almost 6 ft, in a container. I recommend this comany to my neighbors and friends, and those who laughed at my tiny little puny plantings last year, have asked me for their catalog this year. |
| Negative | Billdc (2 reviews) | On Apr 11, 2008, Billdc Oak Ridge, TN wrote: Incomplete shipment. Substandard quality. Bad customer service. No 800 number. Shop someplace else. On Apr 11, 2008, Spring Hill Nursery (aka SpringHillNursery.com) responded with: " On May 27, 2008 8:31 AM, Spring Hill Nurseries added: Contacted the Customer on 4/22/08 for possible resolution; as of 5/27/08, have received no response." |
| Positive | doxiedr (8 reviews) | On Apr 8, 2008, doxiedr Burlington, NC wrote: After reading the feedback here, I was a little skeptical about placing an order with Spring Hill. But their "Free $20" sucked me in, and I purchased a patio lime tree "kit" for $19.99 (includes soil and planter). I only paid a total of $7.95 (for shipping). Three days after my standard order confirmation email, my order was shipped. It came two business days after that...except it was only the "kit" part--the soil and planter. Both were pretty blah, but I didn't expect much else. The soil will go in the compost and the planter will work fine for transplanting shrubs and whatnot. But no tree?!...I drafted my polite but concerned email in my head. |
| Positive | knexsen (10 reviews) | On Apr 7, 2008, knexsen Virginia Beach, VA wrote: I really like this company. I've ordered from them numerous times, and have always ended up pleased. |
| Negative | hepster (3 reviews) | On Apr 4, 2008, hepster Duluth, MN (Zone 3b) wrote: I placed and order with Spring Hill Nurseries, submitting payment with a $25.00 gift certificate and a postal money order to cover the difference between the $25.00 and the total cost of the order. Within a week, I receive a letter from this company stating that I am $24.51 short on my payment. I emailed them immediately, and received a return email stating that my email was received and I would be contacted with 48 hours concerning the problem. 72 hours later, with no response from Spring Hill Nurseries, I emailed them again and recieved the same automated email response. Now, as I still have not been contacted by Spring Hill, I will have to call them (no toll-free number, of course) to try to find resolution to my problem. Or perhaps I'll just call the Better Business Bureau and the Attorney General in Ohio and file a complaint. On May 10th, 2008, hepster added the following: After more than a month and a dozen emails to this company, plus reporting them to the Better Business Bureau, they still have my money and I have not received my order, nor my payment back. I would recommend that no-one orders from Spring Hill Nurseries as they surely appear to be a dishonest company, who keeps a person's money and won't send the items paid for. On Apr 4, 2008, Spring Hill Nursery (aka SpringHillNursery.com) responded with: " On May 27, 2008 8:32 AM, Spring Hill Nurseries added: I contacted the Customer via this website on 4/22/08 for a possible resolution; as of 5/27/08, I have received no response." |
| Positive | gardenenvy (6 reviews) | On Apr 4, 2008, gardenenvy Dover, NC wrote: So far I am very pleased with Spring Hill. I have only ordered twice. Last year I ordered myself and my mom a Hardy Banana plant using a coupon (basically getting one for free). |
| Positive | e1beth1 (1 review) | On Apr 3, 2008, e1beth1 Staunton, VA wrote: I have ordered from Spring Hill numerious times over the past 8 years. The plants are usually always small when they arrive and a bit wilty, but considering that the plants are being stuck in a dark box and bounced around during shipping, I'm not surprised. Everything I have purchased from them has done remarkably well. I have an Iris collection from them that grow up to be around 3-3 1/2 feet tall and blooms bigger than softballs. I have a Clematis that looked rough when it arrived and now blooms much earlier than most and lasts most longer than most, same with a climbing rose, that one I have to trim back several times each year because it gets so big. I have had a few plants die, both part of collections and both were replaced with and entire new collection, no questions asked and I've never been "blacklisted" or had an order turned down. I've just placed another very large order with them and even after reading the negative feedback on this site I have no concerns. |
| Positive | LotusBean (1 review) | On Apr 1, 2008, LotusBean Cambridge, MD wrote: I ordered from SH before I read the negative reviews. Had I read the reviews first, I wouldn't have ordered from them. However, I have been pleasantly surprised this spring to find that the plants are alive and growing. I am relieved my experience has been positive. |
| Negative | HankerB (5 reviews) | On Apr 1, 2008, HankerB Jordan, MN wrote: We haven't done a lot of mail order purchasing and because of our experience with SH, if we hadn't found DG, probably wouldn't have again. On Apr 1, 2008, Spring Hill Nursery (aka SpringHillNursery.com) responded with: " On Jun 16, 2008 4:47 PM, Spring Hill Nursery (aka SpringHillNursery.com) added: Contacted Customer via email on 4/22/08 through the DG site attempting to try to resolve any issue they have; as of 6/16/08 have not received a response." |
| Positive | Frostette (12 reviews) | On Mar 31, 2008, Frostette Wichita, KS wrote: My first time with Spring Hill! I've been receiving their catalogs for years but since they were both pricey and rated poorly on this site, I never ordered. But recently I got the $20 free coupon (with no requirement to buy more like most coupons!) and couldn't let that go by so I ordered 6 of their Pink Freedom hedge roses. Wow - I couldn't be more pleased. They ended up being about $5 each with the coupon and they are beautiful healthy branched, nicely pruned shrubs. Amazing. |
| Negative | cpgeorge (3 reviews) | On Mar 30, 2008, cpgeorge Natick, MA wrote: I orderd over $100 in plants sept 2007 in hopes i would recieve them for the fall planting. When November 2007 came and i visited the website to see if the order was sent i saw that it was being sent in spring 2008. I wish that i would have been sent an e-mail to tell me this. No big deal i told myself i will just plant in the sping. It is now march and i am in zone 6 and i was sent an e-mail that my plants were being sent. They came right away and they looked as if i would have expected. 4inch pots with yellow leaved plants with missing soil from transportation. Even that was fine i can live with that. What i can't understand is the fact that they sent potted plants that arived at my house on march 28th. In my zone 6 the last average frost is between march 30th and April 30th. Today is the 30th and this morning it was 20 outside and it snowed on the 29th. I called and asked why they were sent so early and they told me that this was the time to send to zone 6. I asked them what i should do with the plants since i couldn't plant them for several weeks and they told me to keep them inside and watered. I responded that they advertised the plants would be sent at the exact time to plant. They said that next time i order from them that i should request a time they should be sent myself. I responded that i ordered them last year and that i was looking for them to be delivered last fall. On Mar 30, 2008, Spring Hill Nursery (aka SpringHillNursery.com) responded with: " On May 27, 2008 8:34 AM, Spring Hill Nurseries added: Contacted the Customer on 4/22/08 for possible resolution; as of 5/27/08, have received no response." |
| Negative | gbarthutk (1 review) | On Mar 24, 2008, gbarthutk Knoxville, TN wrote: If you get a chance to order some plants for free and just pay shipping, it may be worth one order from these people, otherwise save your cash. On April 24th, 2008, gbarthutk added the following: Finally, after posting a complaint on Garden Watchdog, I get a response- Dear 'gbarthutk': I am responding to your posting on Dave's Garden/Garden Watchdog. I apologize for the inconvenience caused. Please submit your name and complete address, and I will look into this matter. I look forward to your response. Sincerely, Debbie Customer Care MY response at this point Debbie, I am beyond having this looked into. Repeated emails elicited no response, and latest shipment leaves me with even more to complain about. The sole reason for my joining this and other post groups at this point is to let other people know what to expect. As of late, your quality has really gone down especially in view of your prices. A bargain bin purchase of Echinecea had 7 pots, 3 of which developed plants and are smaller than the seeds I started a week before arrival. Are you now placing seeds in pots and sending them out? The Wave Petunia that arrived for 5.99 is smaller than each of the local ones I purchased in a six pack for 3.99 for all six. There is no longer any perceived value in your products I am receiving. Sorry, but I am done with Spring Hill, The chance to correct initial issues wasn't handled well, and now is past the point of keeping me quiet and not warning others about what I've received. Better luck with future customers. |
| Positive | catfaulk (1 review) | On Mar 24, 2008, catfaulk Mickleton, NJ wrote: I ordered from Spring Hill a few weeks ago - before reading all of the negative comments on Dave's Garden. I was concerned that my order would be dead on arrival, but was very pleasantly surprised. Last Thursday I received an email letting me know that my order was shipping and I received the order the next day. The packaging was excellent. The plants were healthy and the soil was most. The plants are a little small - but all perennials are at this time of year. My whole order arrived -- nothing backordered. Great value for the price. I can't wait to plant! |
| Positive | tashie22 (1 review) | On Mar 22, 2008, tashie22 Alexandria, VA wrote: I ordered over $200 worth of plants and bulbs from Spring Hill in March 2008. The products were delivered within 2 weeks of my placing the order. The plants were gorgeous, healthy and some very large. The live plants arrived fresh and well watered. Some of the plants cost a third of what they are now selling for at the local Home Depot. As for the packaging, unbelievably expensive; the little 3" pots were packed in plastic boxes that protected the plant. I also received more plants than I ordered. |
| Neutral | betty327 (1 review) | On Mar 16, 2008, betty327 Birdsboro, PA wrote: I ordered 5 plants and some day-lilies last year. Two plants (butterfly bushes) died and these are not hard plants to grow, The azalea is doing so-so, at least it is still alive but it has barely grown at all and the day lilies are struggling to break ground. I have other day-lilies that are sprouting like crazy but not the ones from springhill. I've sent several e-mails and have never heard from them and there e-mail address is not easy to find. Needless to say that I will not order from them again. On March 28th, 2008, betty327 changed the rating from negative to neutral and added the following: I have since heard from Springhill and they are reshipping my order. I will let everyone know how this next batch of plants perform and that will dictate whether I order from them in the future. Betty |
| Positive | gardensgirl (1 review) | On Mar 15, 2008, gardensgirl Aurora, IN wrote: I'd like to start by saying that I've worked for Spring Hill (and their affiliated companies) answering the phones for a number of years now. I've also been ordering through them since I started working there. Before that time I had never gardened in my life, and even now I am not what could be called a 'good' gardener. I'm not speaking as any sort of 'official representative', I was just reading the reviews out of curiosity and wanted to add my thoughts on the plants I've ordered, and also try to inform people of what can be expected if there is an issue with their order. |
| Positive | bugz99 (1 review) | On Mar 12, 2008, bugz99 Abilene, TX (Zone 7a) wrote: Healthy plants with sturdy roots and stems -- for a great price. If I could find the same plant at a local nursery for the same price, I'd go local. |
| Positive | tbweber (1 review) | On Mar 12, 2008, tbweber Huntsville, AL wrote: Ordered 3 All Summer Beauty Hydrangeas which arrived last week. Not only are the plants in good condition, I'd even call them "lush." Of course, ony time will tell how they will perform, but I wanted to post how pleased I was when I opened the box. As healthy as these plants look, I have to believe if they fail to do well it will be my own fault. |
| Neutral | rah127 (13 reviews) | On Mar 5, 2008, rah127 Dalton, GA (Zone 7b) wrote: I ordered from this company in the spring of 2006. I was surprised (being new to mail order gardening) at how small the plants were. However, now that I have ordered from other companies, I know what to expect. Most of my order lived, and the butterfly bushes I got are taking over. I split the order with some of the people I work with, and their plants did not fair as well though. I think for the money (they are a good deal cheaper than other places on some things) that this is an "okay" company. I have had better luck with other companies though... |
| Neutral | Cruxcorvus (4 reviews) | On Feb 25, 2008, Cruxcorvus Tomahawk, WI wrote: Spring 2006 and 2007 I placed orders with this company. The plants were shipped in ok condition and less than half of what I ordered each time lived past the first two weeks in my garden. I ordered the handkerchief iris two years in a row and they died within a week or two after planting each time. I ordered a hibiscus that came bare root, completely dried up and brown. I planted it anyway but it never grew. The lenten roses I ordered had less than a 50% success rate too. |
| Positive | detroitspeed (4 reviews) | On Feb 15, 2008, detroitspeed Detroit, MI (Zone 5b) wrote: Say what you will about Spring Hill Nurseries, but we bought one of their Perennial Garden collections over ten years ago when we bought our house. Some of those plants are still producing and have given us years of outstanding blooms. In particular, it is the only supplier where I have found the tall 48" (although ours was more like 65") Belladonna Delphinium which was absolutely spectacular for several years. They take a couple of years to come into their own and Delphiniums are short lived plants anyway but while they are in their prime, they are gorgeous. I'm ordering some again this year (the seeds I collected and nurtured ultimately failed) and hope others will consider doing so too because they seem to be hard to find and may become unavailable. |
| Positive | sunnynash (1 review) | On Feb 13, 2008, sunnynash Nashville, TN wrote: I purchased several plants from Spring Hill in Spring of 2007. They arrived very healthy, and within the time frame they had promised. Unfortunately we had an incredibly hot summer, and very little rain. Some of the plants didn't make it. I called Spring Hill, and had replacements within a few weeks without trouble. I am very excited to see how my young plants grow this season! I was very pleased with my Spring Hill experience. |
| Neutral | GrowinEngrGirl (7 reviews) | On Feb 9, 2008, GrowinEngrGirl Pocatello, ID (Zone 5a) wrote: I ordered online. (before knowing about this site) In the confirmation email it gives me the shipping dates and expected time of arrival and they have me listed as being in zone 7a. I'm in zone 9b! They will not change the shipping dates because they "ship at the appropriate time for your area." This would put the plants arriving when the temps are getting well into the 90s each day. |
| Positive | iaimit (1 review) | On Jan 9, 2008, iaimit Liverpool, PA wrote: The plants arrived on time and in good overall condition. I thought the plants were packaged well and directions for planting were well written. I bought some of the " sale items" and still was pleased. I will buy from them again this year. |
| Neutral | Connie_G (2 reviews) | On Jan 3, 2008, Connie_G Austin, TX (Zone 8b) wrote: I just placed an order last night with this company. THEN someone told me about the Garden Watchdog....tooooo late. |
| Negative | Hemhostaholic (30 reviews) | On Jan 2, 2008, Hemhostaholic Kershaw, SC (Zone 8b) wrote: Finally a place to vent about this scam: On Jan 2, 2008, Spring Hill Nursery (aka SpringHillNursery.com) responded with: " On Apr 22, 2008 2:02 PM, Spring Hill Nurseries added: Customer was emailed on January 4, 2008 to let him know that his orders were placed with the previous owners, not us. Unfortunately, we did not get any of the previous owners' customer information, so we have no record of his order. Customer was asked if he could provide some kind of proof of purchase (cancelled check, invoice, etc.) and we would happily issue him a credit for the purchase price. As of April 22, 2008, we have received no response from the customer." |
| Negative | wegarden (3 reviews) | On Dec 4, 2007, wegarden Lynchburg, OH wrote: The name remains the same as when it was one of the most respected nurseries in our area, but that is almost the only thing that hasn't changed in my opinion.They have almost constantly shipped us the wrong plants, nearly dead plants and or too late in the season for successful fall planting. A specific example is an offer for Japanese Irises including "Shogun and Pink Lady" which we have tried to obtain for 3 years. The initial plants lived but when they bloomed were obviously not the varieties ordered. The replacement arrived far too late the next season to establish themselves before winter and thus did not survive. After many calls and e-mails we were told that the varieties in question were no longer offered and a refund was issued. |
| Neutral | grannyh (6 reviews) | On Nov 25, 2007, grannyh Monroe City, MO (Zone 6a) wrote: Interesting story with this one. I purchased 3 fans of 'Autumn Red' years ago, in 1996, from Springhill Nursery. I just fell in love with this flower. It bloomed for almost 3 months each year! One year I tried counting all the blooms from one day on the three plants ( I had planted them in a triangle) and I lost count after I had reached 100! This is absolutely true. On December 28th, 2007, grannyh added the following: After I posted my original comments regarding Springhill Nursery, I was contacted via DG-Mail by Donna from Springhill's Customer Care. She apologized for all the trouble I have had with my orders in the past years, and asked if I would send her my name, address, and account number I had with Springhill. She wanted to check into my orders and offered to reship or refund me for the wrong items I had received. I gave her the information she wanted, plus the order numbers from a couple of the invoices I still had. I told her 'thank you' for her time, but there was no need to reship or refund anything, since the 'wrong plants' were still alive and growing. As I told Donna..."All I had wanted, at the time, was what I had ordered and paid for." She replied to me again, via DG-Mail, and apologized again for all my trouble. She wanted to send me a gift certificate for me to use on any of their items, since I said there was no need to reship or refund me for anything. I was, quite frankly, amazed! I thought this was very nice of her, and it showed true concern over how their customers are feeling. I emailed her back, and told her that if she would like to send a gift certificate, then I would use it in good faith. I honestly never thought I would order from them again. Donna's commitment to try and make things right have made me want to give Springhill another try. To me, it says alot for their Customer Service personnel. I will let you know how it all turns out. With this info posted, I am changing my rating to Neutral. On December 28th, 2007, grannyh changed the rating from negative to neutral and added the following: On December 31st, 2007, grannyh added the following: Today I received a $20 gift certificate in the mail from Springhill Nurseries, just as Donna had promised. I am going to use it when I receive their Spring catalog, if I still get one since I haven't ordered from them for ahwile. I guess I better go to their website and request a catalog. I will keep you posted on how the plants turn out. I wll keep my rating at neutral until then. I still think this was very thoughtful of Donna. Springhill should feel very fortunate to have her working for them. |
| Negative | betttyjh (1 review) | On Nov 22, 2007, betttyjh Muldrow, OK wrote: In April I ordered $90.00 worth of flowers. In July I emailed and they said they would ship them. In Nov. I still did'nt have plants. I called them and said to cancel my order, They said my order had just gone out that morning. The order arrived the next week, so I returned them. I will never order from them again. |
| Negative | maxtlr (1 review) | On Nov 11, 2007, maxtlr Stockton, CA wrote: Placed my order for an area to be covered by Irish Moss. Based on the space it called for approximately (8) flats or 48 indivdual plants. The order was placed in August, 07. It arrived Nov. 9th for the "fall" shipment. Price in total was approx. $80.00. What came was a small box with EIGHT, small individual plants. Obviously some error was made and when I called them they agreed that a mistake had been made and that I was to have received 48. Unfortunately, in order for them to send me what I ordered in the first place, I would have to now wait for the next upcoming shipment in the SPRING! I told them this was unacceptable and to credit my card for the difference, minus the eight plants. They said they were sorry, but then discussed some other flowers they had a deal on and I wouldn't have to pay shipping, just the retail cost. I was amazed. Perhaps they should spend more time trying to get people's orders correct and sent to them in a timely fashion, as opposed to trying to sell me something "new" I don't need. |
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