The "Frosty Stuff" ....#3

Go Girl....

We had 4-5" of snow this morning and it snowed until an hour ago. Now we have brilliant sunshine and all the snow has fallen off the trees and plants. It was just the end of a cold spot that came from the NW and was mostly in the mountains.

The sun is shining, but look at the flag!!

Same here Willow, and no wind as yet.

Melissa that is why I choose the chiffon camo in my attempt to leave the archetype. Oh I have read 'M' theory. What a script of what is going on in the world of 4 dimentions to try to explain 11. I understand string theory but all of this is in a realm that no human can see and all of the conclusions emerging are so bizzare that only a person with an altered mind can percieve multiple dimentions exisiting at the same time. Where the electron goes when it is not an absolute item and is only occupying an infinite position with the math that is created to "try" to explain its position. Leaves the species, Homo Sapien, without a hope to explain. We are too finite to delve in the subatomic let alone to explain it. I am comfortable with God being the quantum energy holding it all together. Then we can leave it up to the individual to define who or what that is.

We're at 43 degrees, had over an inch of snow this morning. It's vacillating from rainy, windy to sunny and windy. I got up this morning and my magnolia tree, which I had wrapped with a frost blanket to protect the new buds from below freezing weather, had blown over completely. Evidently the frost blanket had acted as a sail, and with the saturation of the soil and the fact that the tree has been in the ground only just a year, the roots couldn't hold it. I have replanted and hope for the best since basically it was undamaged. Will it never end?

Sofer, I admit it is complicated beyond the pale! Today I was reading up on the different energetic grids and I'm just now watching another video on the Zero point field. Here's a frightening thought: it actually makes sense to me! But I do admit to having an altered state of awareness much of the time. Maybe the few times I experimented with Pot in the late 70's had a lasting effect? HA!

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I take exception to the statement that only a person with an altered mind can perceive multiple dimensions existing at the same time. I don't think my mind is "altered" - well until I discovered the dimension of gardening. Sofer you talk about "all of this is in a realm that no human can see' but then you mention that you are comfortable with God being the quantum energy. Me thinks you contradict yourself.

Oh so sorry about your tree Pix! I hope it recovers.

I like the expanded awareness that one gets from pot. I can count on one hand the number of times I have indulged in the past two years but many design solutions have bubbled to the surface at such times. I was in college in the 60s and I can still remember conversations that took place over Fritos and warm chocolate pudding in the dorm. LOL

Portland I certainly don't contradict because the definition of God is something imperceptible but definable. I know you cannot see any dimension beyond the first three. You may understand the concept of the other reality coexisting in another dimension but you cannot see it. Therefore it is just like the ancient understanding of God. Many can understand but no one has seen. I also understand that this energy exists in a demention outside of ours at the same time. So what is different but the name.

Ah - but the concept of God, or god, is not definable universally. And I agree - what is different but the name? What is universal, I think, is the understanding that there are other dimensions beside the one we are physically present in.
I'm still waiting to hear what you mean by the need to be men eliminated by laws and government.

See what happens when there is no frost to photograph!

How about snow, its frosty LOL
As far as the rest, I'm part indian so not going there. ^_^ as we all have are own ways.
So sorry Pix, I so hope it will recover.

Oh I said it when I responded but it was in the post before you entered. The purpose of man was changed when civilizations developed laws and when they developed societies that enforced and respected them we were no longer needed to fight for the home and its occupants. That is when these same societies fought wars and they were based on the nature of man/woman to exercise things such as greed, envy, lust etc. All of these I feel still drive the same events. Man/woman has not evolved as much as we seem to think.
I agree with you on all of the rest: God is not universal in definition, Parallel dimensions exist, and these are defined over a lot of literature know to all of us. Just what they are are left to individual beliefs. But unfortunatly they are not observable. Then this discussion would not be necessary. Enjoyable as it is. :)

Regarding the purpose of man - I don't think the purpose has changed, if we are talking about procreation. Protection of land, property and loved ones supported the survival of the offspring. I certainly agree that modern man has less of a struggle to accomplish this - or maybe I should say a different struggle. Sure our menfolk don't have to fight enemies on a daily basis and wrestle competitors to the ground. That's why we have football.

You are right Judi.

Steve, did you take that pic from inside?? was wondering what the silhouette in the corner of the pic.
I have one. took this of snow falling.

Yes Tilly I shot that from inside the sun room.
Yes that is why we have football. LOL

I think the best part of the discussion was when you misspelled dimension as demention. Sort of fits. When I discuss the things I've seen and know, people walk away with their mouths open. ^_^

I thought so, Football?????

Great Pics Tilly and Sofer! Sorry that you have so much of that crud! Tilly.... if I had to guess... I would say that your camera is silver! :-p

Pixy..... sorry about your tree. :-( at least it is dormant I guess. Unfortunate that you're set back a year in getting it established now.

Ok.... I think that i'm going to have to go some some more frost pictures!!! even If I have to drive up to it tomorrow! (I doubt that though)

Ditto^_^

I think my tree will be okay. It was not well established yet and I got it replanted. But yes, it's definitely a setback. Very irritating to be sure. Last year I lost the previous magnolia to a late freeze. They don't generally recover well from that. I replaced it with a later blooming variety. I'll just keep my fingers crossed!

Willow, I'm with you! Generally, I keep my mouth shut about the things I see and know. I occasionally forget and make a slip up, and then people give me the strangest looks! Also agree that the spelling mistake make me guffaw out loud! What is observable to one is not necessarily observable to another. And that's without the drugs! If I added drugs to the mix, it would definitely not be a good idea. It's been over 30 years since I tried anything like that. Tills, you are right. Each experiences in his own way.

We had snow this morning, but I didn't get photos. It didn't really last long enough to get anything. So instead, here is a photo taken a few nights ago. I was out in the yard and looked up and saw this pink and blue sky with the almost-full moon. Had to take a few shots. 5 minutes later, it was gone. The sky was completely covered with clouds and no moon was visible.

Really nice picture!!!

Willow what do you mean that what you see and know makes people walk away with mouths open?
Yes you guys saw that I "altered" the spelling on the final dimension of my paragraph. (the other two in the paragraph being what we accept) Now that you all have pointed it out you can see my problem of "altered" minds changing what has already been accepted. Can anyone here confirm "M" theory? LOL
Nice sunrise Melissa!

Thank you Mary for sending the snow our direction! LOL! Rainy and windy all day yesterday, woke up to this this morning.

Susan105

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Sofer, how do you get along with the dogs? Do they understand you? :-)

susan I do love that gate! It is really a nice one. Nice photo, too.

To be brief: I am ready for some warmer weather here.

Sofer- I thought M theory was already out dated. I thought there were at least 12 dimensions, not 11 (see F theory). But in practical terms, there are likely an unlimited number of dimensions, just as the universe is unlimited. These theories are man's way of trying to catch up his mind to what he already knows in other ways. The universe is unlimited. There is no way at this time in this particular dimension to either confirm or deny M theory or F theory because our science, by its nature, exists in a world of duality - things either exist or they don't, you either confirm them or deny them, and these theories exist beyond that line of thinking. It's amazing the creative thinking that goes into these theories. Then they find a mathematical formula that works with the theory. Quite beyond me, I'm sure! I would hate to have to be the one that tried to prove in this world of duality something that is well beyond the world of duality. But the day is coming! And I heartily look forward to it. What we used to think of as 'magic' will be explained in the world of quantum physics. But that doesn't make it less magical.
I think a useful metaphor is the following: Say that the universe is like a shopping mall with many levels, only a few of which are accessible to people in this time, space, and dimension. At the lowest level is the smallest, least stocked 7-11 store. The people who shop there believe that is all that is available. They go there because it is the easiest place to get to and requires little effort on their part. Even if they are not satisfied with it, they look no further. They do not even see the escalators directly in front of their eyes. Then there are the next couple of levels that are similar to a strip mall. A few more possibilities are available, but in general, not a good selection of goods. The people who shop there are aware that there are stores down on the 7-11 level, but they generally don't choose to go there, having discovered the escalators long ago. They, too, are unaware that there are many other levels above and do not see the access to them. Next you have the Bellevue square level (even though this is not about money). The people who shop there frequently go down a few levels and then come back up at will. They shop several levels, which allows them more flexibility and they can almost always find what they need or want. They might even tell people at the 'regular mall' level about what is available to them on the upper floor, but the regular mall customers just think they are crazy. At the top is the store of unlimited possibilities. There is no 'store' per se, it's just a big open space with 'nothing' in it. The people who go to that level create what they need from that 'open space' and are perfectly contented and happy. They have access to all of the other levels but why would they want to go there? They don't even have to leave their home to 'go' to that store. That store is beyond physical existence. They just send their conscious selves there and ask for what they need, creating it themselves. Anyone who happens to venture up to that space and isn't really ready to be there simply sees 'nothingness' and decides that the people who told them all the wonderful tales about that top floor were just crazy. How can there be a store there if there is nothing there? They just don't get it. They still exist in a world of duality. They believe there is either something there, or there is not. They cannot imagine that there is everything there, and nothing there at the same time. The truth is that any person can shop at any floor. But they have to open their minds to other ways of knowing and being in order to do so.

And I'm sure all of this is completely boring to many people. Back to gardening. Which I will have little opportunity for this coming week.

Oh, and I was 'buzzed' by a merlin yesterday. Evidently he has discovered the bird feeder.



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Love your story Pix. Beautiful sky pictures.

Sofer, I no longer bother to tell anyone my spooky stories.

I agree... Love the story and the Pic!

Willow, I would love to hear a spooky story!

Pix - read your entry with interest - thinking about what you said and your metaphor, which is great. Been thinking about it all day...

Just so everyone knows we took this to Dmail. I too agree completely with the metaphor.

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Susan, I completely missed your pic up there. Nice job! the snow really makes the rought iron standout! However, I bet that you're getting to the point where you'd rather enjoy the view with out the snow! I know that I do.

Sofer.... you're funny! Hopefully the snow is going away again for you. there's way too much of it in the picture!

I am serious not being funny. You would have to understand the long discussion and DG is not where to do it.

Beautiful pictures everyone, even the snow. It is pretty, just I'm ready for it to go away until next winter.

I was reading along, however I couldn't possibly have read the dmails. For fear of something being taken the wrong way is exactly why I didn't join in before. However, I think I should've waited a bit longer.

Will we all receive dmails about the discussion?

As I mentioned above in the thread, some critter has went around digging an any soft dirt that they could find. Unfortunately the soft dirt is around all of the newly planted plants. This is just one example of 4 or 5 plants that were fully uncovered. A few more were only missing part of their dirt. I had a heck of a time finding live roots on this one, but I have hope, so I buried it again.

Sorry the pictures not all that good. but, I was wrong in guessing that there might be enough light for a good picture.

How awful rc.....do you think it's raccoons? Sometimes they dig in my pots.

Huh.... that's a really good thought Sally. It certainly could be i guess. I didn't think of that because I have never seen them in the front part of the yard before, which is where all of the digging was done. They've always caused problems in the back yard. But, who knows what happens at night when the lights are out! I'm not sure what they would be after there. Do you think that the cocoa mulch might attract the 'coons? I put it in my potting mixture, in small amounts, in those beds as a soil ammendment and slug deterrent. I use about 1 cup per 10 gal pot of potting mixture when I mix it, so it's fairly weak.

what's even crazier is that in the back part of the yard, near the river, I have excellent drainage so the plants are planted very deep and would be nearly impossible to dig up without being a very large animal. Raccoons or whatever could dig to their hearts content back there and it wouldn't be able to uncover a plant like that. It's only in the front part of the yard where I have to plant everything high for better drainage, which makes them easy to dig around. And of course the front is where they are digging!! Hmpffff.....

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I think it's something bigger than cats that is looking for food. I don't think curiosity would explain how widespread the problem is. Do nutria dig?

We have nutria at work. they generally tend to scratch the heck out of tree trunks, but maybe they dig? I don't think that I have any here though, well i haven't seen them. But, I suppose that it's possible. I only have fresh water here too, no ponds or still water of any kind. I have had the occasional opossum in the yard. There is also a resident fox under the big trees next to the driveway. Do have lots of raccoons and squirrels. From there it jumps to the very big animals, and I know this isn't their work for there would be tracks. There is always the potential for the rare to find critter here that any of us here might have that lived in the woods. Something like a badger or critter like that.

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I would definitely love and appreciate any thoughts or ideas on what it could be so that I can try to stop it before the weather heats up. That would be an almost certain death of this were to happen in July and I was gone from home for a few days.