Stir crazy, but there's nothing much in the nurseries yet

Sebastopol, CA(Zone 9a)

I'm the same way, Iris. If it doesn't flower or produce fruit, I have no room for it.

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

I simply divide with a strong knife and go right through the plant while it's in the ground. There's no point in lifting, dividing and replanting to my way of thinking. Then I put as much compost as will fit in the vacancy.

My biggest problem with dividing daylilies is giving them away to people who don't appreciate them so putting them at the curb (though we have no curbs) is easier for me. Then, at least, I don't have to know or care about the plants. When I spend two full days packing I do care.

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Jersey Shore, NJ(Zone 7a)

You have all been busy! I'm not sure if the west coast pictures are soothing my east coast winter soul or creating big lust. I might have to make a bowl of David's popcorn while I contemplate that dilemma.

Pirl, I recognize one of those boxes.

Sue, I love your blue collage. I've tried Royal Ensign a couple of times from seed without success. I think I'm going to have to try again!

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

The local big greenhouse is closed until they stock up for spring and so are other favorite places. I bought two packages of seeds - whoopee!

Northern California, United States(Zone 9a)

venu209, I found them in a 6 pk at a local nursery, they were so gorgeous, I hope the few seeds I got will give me something, if not, I will be on the hunt for them again. That blue is so intense!

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Northern California, United States(Zone 9a)

It's a start pirl! I have a box of seeds that I am determined to start this year, my funds are too tight to buy much so I am going with some easy things (I hope) to spread around. That's my plan anyways. They had a fast and furious Terra Nova co-op yesterday, (I resisted) for plugs of some new Heuchera and Echinacea. So far, I can't grow Echinacea, I think my soil, or at least the spots I've tried have too much clay but my Mom has looser soil and she also has failed with them. Drives me nuts, there are so many I would love to grow! So I am looking at all the other wonderful stuff from there.
http://www.terranovanurseries.com/wholesale/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=336

This is one of my favorite plants in my garden right now, and my gradkids love it too! When you rub the leaves, it smells just like 7-up! I have to get an updated image of the whole plant, it's filling in nicely.
Stachys coccinea 'Pow Wow'
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/132444/

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(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

That's such a nice gentle color, Sue.

Our very old Echinaceas, Bravado (I think) or maybe Bravo, has always done very well but not so with the newer ones and paying $15. to $20. only to lose them just isn't appealing to me.

Sebastopol, CA(Zone 9a)

Here are some primula photos for Polly (but the rest of you can look at them too).

These are primulas of the Ocean Series and the blooms are extraordinarily large. They will produce 5-inch blooms after they're in the ground or in a larger pot, but even in the small container they look huge in comparison to other primula blooms. This is a comparison photo of one of the Ocean Series Primulas next to a regular Primula Acaulis:

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Sebastopol, CA(Zone 9a)

Here's a closeup of that one so you can see the cute yellow edge.

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Sebastopol, CA(Zone 9a)

I also bought it in this color:

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Sebastopol, CA(Zone 9a)

I bought them for a birthday party and took them there before I could take photos of them, but they were in various shades of pink, peach, and purple. I couldn't resist keeping this one for myself:

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Sebastopol, CA(Zone 9a)

Okay, those are all the big ones I kept, but I also bought some p. Acaulis that were really sweet. You saw one of them in the picture at the top. Here's another:

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Sebastopol, CA(Zone 9a)

And another:

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Sebastopol, CA(Zone 9a)

And one more:

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Sebastopol, CA(Zone 9a)

And as long as I'm showing you what I bought that day, here's a pretty Cyclamen:

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(dana)Owensboro, KY(Zone 6a)

i love that last one . do they have a scent . i got one that looks very similar to the 4th one. it has no scent . the other 2 were plainer but have such a cheery smell so i passed on the more colorful ones

Sebastopol, CA(Zone 9a)

And another Cyclamen:

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(dana)Owensboro, KY(Zone 6a)

ok it wasnt the last lol by the time i got done typing there were 2 more

Sebastopol, CA(Zone 9a)

I don't think they have any fragrance, Iris. Not to my nose, at any rate.

Sebastopol, CA(Zone 9a)

I knew what you were talking about, Iris, because you said something about the fourth one and there were only two Cyclamen pictures, so it couldn't be those. Anyway, my response applied to all of them, so it didn't matter.

The rest of the plants I bought that day aren't in bloom yet, so that's all the photos for now.

Hannibal, NY(Zone 6a)

Those primroses are just beautiful, Zuzu. I especially love the bicolored ones. Who will be selling them? They are huge.

Jersey Shore, NJ(Zone 7a)

Those are the biggest, brightest primulas I have ever seen!

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

Wow! They're spectacular. Even the leaves are much larger than the smaller, more typical ones.

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

They're wonderful, Sue. So different from the five or so standard colors of a dozen years ago.

Sebastopol, CA(Zone 9a)

Sue, isn't it amusing that Annie wants $14.95 for some of those auriculas? That's the exact price of the dozen assorted ones from Hortus.

http://www.hortusb.com/prsp.html

Polly, I'm sure the Ocean Series will be available at a lot of places soon. Last year Empire Nursery in Santa Rosa was the only source, as far as I know, but this year I even saw some at Safeway (our local grocery chain). If they're in grocery stores, they have to be in a lot of nurseries, I would think.

Maybe somebody like TerraNova will be offering them for sale.

Long Beach, CA(Zone 10a)

I think I have some of those primulas, but I'll have to find the tags. The guy I got them from sold me some last year and wanted me to test them out and report back to him. They were in one of his "off limits" growing areas, but he sold me some anyway.I can't find the pics. of them from last year...but I know I posted them on here somewhere.

Hannibal, NY(Zone 6a)

Thanks Zuzu, I'll be looking for them.

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

We'll be in for more snow, sleet, rain to be followed by more snow in the morning. This is the worst winter in a very long time.

Hannibal, NY(Zone 6a)

I looked to see what primulas Terra Nova had, and all they have is Green Lace. That's a neat one, though.

http://www.terranovanurseries.com/wholesale/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=226

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

Pretty. It reminds me of a sedum I have.

Hannibal, NY(Zone 6a)

And look at this picture of Ocean Mix, really show how large they are. Almost like a different plant.

http://bel-r.com/files/Ocean_Mix.jpg

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

They are very large. They'd match the daylilies of red and yellow that are on the other thread but they have totally different blooming times.

Hannibal, NY(Zone 6a)

Maybe with some nice late tulips or daffs?

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

Perfect!

Long Beach, CA(Zone 10a)

Many years ago, I mail ordered a big collection of early, mid and late blooming tulips...thinking I would have this on-going succession of blooms. They all bloomed at the same time! So much for doing tulips in So. Calif ! There were nice though...for about 3 days...until the sun pureed them.

Sebastopol, CA(Zone 9a)

Tulips grow well here, but they start blooming long after the Primulas do.

When I lived in Piedmont, we used to go see a huge tulip display every year -- thousands and thousands of tulips -- on the grounds of one of the cemeteries in Oakland. They bought new bulbs every year, so they pulled them out as soon as they finished blooming. Then they would post a security guard next to the mountain of spent tulips until they were taken away to the dump. It always seemed peculiar to me. I can understand why they didn't keep them in the ground. The display wouldn't have been so impressive in subsequent years, but I don't know why they didn't want anyone else to take even one or two.

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

JD - Can you grow tulips in the shade or just morning sun? Or is heat the problem?

Zuzu - "my" radio gardening guy, Ralph Snodsmith, was the Director of the Queens Botanical Gardens for many years and they would plant 300,000 tulips (donated by VanBourgondien) every year and dig them up after blooming, just as you mentioned with the Oakland cemetary. People were allowed to take them but the rest were all composted.

The reason they prefer people not take them is disappointment. People will expect them to flower each and every year and that's just not the case.

Sebastopol, CA(Zone 9a)

You'd think they could have explained the reason politely instead of taking the hostile step of posting a sentry.

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

Absolutely.

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