Ipomoea purpurea X Ipomoea nil

More growth on the Purple Flaked I. purpurea vines. This is Pot G.

Pot H.

Well ... my "H" pot has bloomed. Looks just like Purple Flaked to me! :-) NO variation or coloration or other traits that might suggest a possible cross with Blue Asago Willow. So this leads me to believe that Purple Flake can produce lighter seeds. The thing that really has me puzzled ... I had a lot of lighter seeds from the first few weeks of blooms, then all the seeds since have been dark. What would cause that?

Here is the entire plant in Pot "H". Leaves are curled from possibly getting too dried out! Or lack of certain nutrients...

Becky - The age of a plant affects the way certain pigment genes react and so a plant may produce lighter flowers and / or seeds at different growth stages although the seed coat color is usually less often affected than the corolla color...

The flower here
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/fp.php?pid=5947610
is showing more of the intermediate dilute purple as a nice lavender...visible as a band at the 3 o'clock position...the flaked strains will sometimes go into a 'phase' where more of the intermediate dilute color is produced and I think this type of multi-color that produces more of the intermediate dilution is visually more interesting than just the original very dark color and the background (off) white...

Let's see what proportion of light and dark seeds the plant "H" produces...


TTY,...


Ron



P.S. - Please put a few light seeds from plant "H" aside for me...Thanks...

Wow! Becky that is an awesome bloom.... Love the colours in it..

Interesting information about the diluted color. I didn't even notice that streak of lavender until you pointed it out, Ron. I guess I don't pay close enough attention to these plants as I should. But then again ... I am never sure what is normal and what is different being still relatively new to the MG world and all the cultivars I've grown. With experience, I'll pick such characteristics out when I've grown many different kinds and documented them in photos. Such a wonderful learning experience!

Still wondering about the color of the seedcoat... would fertilizer affect something like that? I had fertilized heavily when the parent vine was a young vine. Didn't fertilize as much after that. The I. purpurea's seem to do fine without too much care and fertilizer. Pot "G" has some small buds forming on it. (That was the seed that was a lighter tan color.)

I have a Blue Asago Willow vine growing in the window sill as well. Not too far behind with buds. I may try crossing these 2 again. No hummers or bees to worry about messing with the blooms ...

I am practicing "pinching" these vines as well. The I. purpureas will be tall and my window setup isn't going to allow that kind of growth. I pinched it today because it reached the top of the handmade circular winding stake. I expect more shoots from the base when I do that! Lots of buds on it. They sure grow buds and blooms quickly. Are the I. purpureas the fastest growing of the MG family?

Thanks, Debra! It is pretty for sure. Smaller blooms than the I. nils, but that deep rich purple is complimented nicely by the off white color on the blooms. :-) Did I send you any seeds of this cultivar?

You Did! ( and I am saving until Spring! )

I was hoping so, Debra! :-)

Ron - I'll try to remember to save you some seeds. You may have to remind me later on ...

Here is the second bloom on the vine in Pot H.

These vines seem to have more delicate leaves as many are getting burned by the intense sun coming through window, so I moved them to the lower shelf. Here is a different view of the 2nd bloom in H.

And unfortunately, the first bloom in Pot G got fried. Have also moved this one to the lower shelf. Too bad this window has sunlight most of the day. It's just too hot there! I don't have any other windows where I can grow these vines. :-( I wonder if there is some way I can lower the heat coming through the window without filtering the UV rays?

i thought that might be what's causing the drooping of the leaves on your other posts.
too hot or too much water. well at least you saved several hundred dollars on light & ballast!
It's a great space, and I'll bet a small fan on them would be really good.

super pretty bloom!

3rd bloom on "H" vine. Funny how the blooms will go from dark blocks to this white with purple flecks the very next day. I have been hand pollinating the blooms and there seems to be plenty of pollen so should get seeds from this vine! :-)

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Oh! Becky how stunning! Love love love it! ;D

Here once again is a collage photo of the variation of blooms from the pod parent.

Super lovely blooms you're getting Becky.

Striking, dramatic blooms there Becky.
Did you add up days from germination to bloom?
I'd like to see numbers about real sun vs. "improvised" sun.

Shawna - The seeds were planted on 12/2 (pot H) and 12/4 (pot G). About a month to bloom. I am still waiting on blooms for all the others I am growing in pots. Most of those are I. nils. All have buds, but none have actually bloomed yet. Soon, very soon ...

Here is the second bloom in Pot G. Obviously not a cross of any kind. :-( So ... this means that this cultivar does produce the lighter color seeds. Which doesn't help me with my experiment. Drat! Oh well! I shall keep trying! :-)

The size of the blooms is also very typical of I. purpurea. Small, tighter blooms. Here is a comparison between Purple Flaked and "Oreheme" also known as Heian no Kaori.

Something I noticed in Pot H today. There was a succession of 3 blooms. And the higher up the blooms went on the vine, the lighter the blooms were. Here's the second to the lowest one on the vine. Half white and half striped.

In the above photo, you can see the lowest bloom and it has a lot more purple in it. In this photo, this bloom is the highest bloom. On the newest part of the vine. Instead of being Purple Flaked, it looked more like White with some purple flecks on it.

And this is the next bloom on the vine in Pot G.

May not appear to be much to some folks, but I find this rather interesting. So now I am wondering if the lighter seeds produce vines with lighter blooms that are different from the typical blooms of Purple Flaked I. purpurea?

Becky, the blooms are all gorgeous..

Becky - The blooms posted are all typical for the flaked type...

Keep an eye out for plants that produce larger sections of the intermediate dilution of the original darker color...


TTY,...


Ron

I took off early from work today to drive up to take my mother to her doctor appointment. She's not doing well at all. Anyway ...

My observations were right on target concerning the bloom color in Pot H turning lighter every day. Get a load of this! It was an almost solid white bloom with flecks of purple! Soooo Coool!!

OUTSTANDING!

Pretty neat, huh? And here is another shot of it with the morning sun warming it!

That would be a good seed pod to tag so you can separate the seeds, wouldn't it? It is stunning!

Thanks Shawna and Joseph! I am thinking that the blooms will most likely be lighter except on any branches/stems coming from the base of the plant. I pinched the top of this stem, so it will have to send out shoot from the bottom and we shall see what it does!

AND ... the other vine in Pot G appears to be doing the same thing! Here is the lower bloom in Pot G. Wider stripes and darker colors.

And this is the next bloom just up on the stem from the other one in Pot G. Notice the stripes are thinner and more white showing. Tomorrow's blooms will be interesting to see, too! :-)

I am thinking this is a genetic progression of bloom colors and patterns for both vines. Remember these were lighter colored seeds. So usually lighter color seeds produce lighter color blooms, correct?

Edited to add: Or maybe not! LOL! Seems my tan seeds do produce blue, purple, etc. blooms ... so nixed that idea about the lighter seed producing lighter bloom color ! :-)

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GORGEOUS !!!

i could look at those all day.

Becky, Pot H bloom knocked my socks off, so special.

ver elegant looking I think... congrats!

Here is the single bloom of the vine in Pot H today.

Another lovely bloom

That is an awsome looking bloom..