Pirl your right, I am. There is something rewarding in growing any thing from seed, but a perennial more so for me. This one seems like a challenge, same idea with my DL's....years before I see what i've created!
wanted to add a thank you to Wha for the link, I lost it and will book mark it this time. Always enjoy browsing her beauties!
This message was edited Feb 22, 2008 3:06 PM
what have you bought so far? part 2
I have been happy with all I've gotten from Wildwood and they are real nice people who take time to help if you need it. Never ordered from FF.
wha- I'm tempted by that 'Shirazz' as well. This site is just too dangerous.
I have three JMs I got via Forest Farm. 'Kinran' and 'Tiger Rose' are very healthy, beautiful forms, and doing well here. I also got 'Coral Magic', which got chopped to nothing by cicadas. It did sprout anew, so I have a baby whip 18" that I staked and leafmulched (with wire mesh to protect from critters). I'll probably order a new one anyway. FF always sends me very healthy, well-sized plants, unlike some that sell a 1 gal. pot with a ee-wee-tiny plant in it.
Darn you for listing Silver Star! Clems do so well here, and there's always room to squeeze one in!
I'm keeping track of all the things I *won't* be able to buy next summer (clothes, food, unnecessary things like that) to accommodate my disease : )
Thom, there, there. You have a lot coming. Don't work overtime. You want to spend your extra time in the garden loving all the nice guys you already bought. Start a 'wish list' folder in your internet bookmarks. You'll get there!
Plantaholic! Too funny! That's an idea... go without clothes. Grow your food... you're good to go!
Is Forest Farm the one that will send you a (oh I forget what they call it) tiny little scrap of a plant in a tube? I've never tried that but it always seemed like quite the deal. [Assuming I could keep the little tiny plant scrap alive.] I'm NOT clicking on any - well, not very many - of these links you ENABLERS are providing. But it is fun to sit back and watch all you guys dig deeper and deeper into debt!
I finished our ESTIMATED 2007 taxes today. We are ESTIMATED to be getting a couple thousand $ in refund but we are also ESTIMATED to need about twice that amount in school shoes tuning the piano fixing the car eating (I'll go without myself, it's the rest of the family that get's so grouchy when they're hungry) and other miscellaneous expenses.
It's lots of vicarious entertainment watching you guys, though!
xx, Carrie
Pixie - will you be growing inside, under lights? If so, don't let the leaves of any clematis touch the leaves of any other plant, not even other clematises. I'll try to find the link someone sent me a very long time ago.
Thom,
Your DG name should have been hemhostairisholic. You're hooked now.
You don't by any chance collect older yellow variety daylilies do you? I would love to find someone that does to trade with. Anybody here?
pollyk- If you mean the species DL's no...I haven't started to collect them...key word...started to. It seems like, atleast at my level of DLness, that no two companies/growers can agree on what/who came first. I believe, stretching my brain here, that the yellow species might be H. fulva. I think. Some catalogs list it as that, and others list it as something else...if I'm getting the name right. The one source that does sell the species, and they aren't to cheap, yet, not that expensive is Olalley...not sure if I spelled it right. The only reasons I have yet to order from them, is/are, 2 fold....first, their catalog, all of the whites, on one page, all of the reds, on another, etc....mix it up...to me the monochrome color scheme, just makes it look like a page of all reds...also, they differentiate in clump price...clump "A" is this price, and clump "B" is that price...to me...a division, or clump of daylilies should be just that, one price...it's just my quirk...but, so far, they are the only sellers that really seem to focus on species DL's...not sure of any others???
OMG, if I had to change my screenname for here...lol...it would read more like:
HemHostaAlocalocasiaIrisDaffTulEchSempJojoAcerStachyHelleHolic...I just think that name wouldn't be so unique, and writing a dmail to someone would come across a little goofy...lol.
I hear ya about ordering...I do...doesn't mean I'm gonna listen...lol.
Pirl, thats interesting about the Clematis leaves.....I wonder why?
Polly, I have some huge yellow ones but do not know all the names. I have had some of them for over 7-9 years now. I know I have
'Mary Todd' , 'Carolyn Criswell' , 'Yellow Explosion', "Suzy Wong', and this big one with a deep green throat that I can not remember the name of.
Pixie, you don't try to remember the names of everything in your garden, do you? That's why I don't know the names of anything in my garden, lol!
x, Carrie
I tried (and failed) to find that link, Pixie.
I'll do a little homework Pirl and see if I can find anything, thank you for trying and for bringing it to my attention. I never would of known!!
Carrie, before I hit the 40 mark I could of told you every name and what garden it was in and where. With a memory like that, you figure you never need to write things down, right? Wrong....old age does things to you and they aren't pretty!! Now I have 200 plants with out names, but know they are an iris, daylily, ect... but not cultivator names!!!!!!
HemHostaAlocalocasiaIrisDaffTulEchSempJojoAcerStachyHelleHolic- I feel your pain!
I would be: AcerPalCornRhodoAllCercidPaeonOenoPelEchMalaholic : )
I actually have a database listing all my plants (clearly too much time on my OCD hands) but god help me if I ever am asked to actually identify the plants!
I hear you, lady, loud and clear! My DH planted a lot for me (especially daylilies) without realizing that it mattered what something was named . . . and I would remember, for a while, until I started trying to remember something else. n the other hand, we just have the front yard and the back yard, not gardens.
xx, Carrie
Polly, I have Mary Todd also, which is a deep, ripe yellow--also have what is called lemon lily, very narrow foliage--believe that's an old variety, & a med yellow, tall & skinny that I started from seed 30 years ago, & have no idea what it is. The Ensata site has left me confusued---too many beauties--no money--but maybe room for a deep purple or rose--white flowers on white paper are too hard to paint.
Thom and Pixie,
I do mean the species and near species daylilies, like midendorfii, citrina, Corky, Autumn Daffodil. The trumpet yellow ones.
Like in Boojums picture, here.
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/fp.php?pid=1303386
Well, if either of you want to get into collecting them, let me know first. I've got them from short to tall. And there aren't many people that seem interested in them.
I have ones that look like that too...they smell like lemons!
Robindog, we cross posted, sorry.
Do you have a picture of the one you started from seed. I'd love to see that. I have a lot of the lemon lilies too. I just love them.
And Ensata can break the bank. For a 'little' cheaper, check out Aitkens or Iris City Gardens. (And I'm still trying to talk Pirl into selling some, the clumps I got from her were so much larger than any I bought elsewhere).
Still thinking about it, Polly.
Pirl the procrastinator.
Thom,
I found the best place for species is Coburg Planting Fields. No online catalogue, but the owners are really great guys to deal with. They will zip you out a catalogue right away. Last I knew the species were all 6.00 per clump. No pictures.
And for the older named varieties, Saxton Gardens here in NY. Again no online, but great prices. They carry a tremendous amount of the older ones.
And I think you're right, they can't agree if it was the lemon lily or fulva that came first. I have an old Stout book on them, very interesting.
Some of the older ones are almost extinct. In fact one I traded for Madam Bellum can no longer be found in commerce.Again a picture thanks to Boojum.
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/fp.php?pid=1301321
Pam Harper, my gardening idol (and Pirls too), makes reference to Mme Bellum, and says it cannot be located.
I think it's so sad, some of these old garden standbys might be lost.
Hi Procrastinator Pirl.
I am Procrastinator Polly, so I know what you're going through.
It would be ideal if the JI places would ship in April or May, before bloom. That would be my biggest advantage in that I could do it if the weather allows for digging.
Yes,
It makes absolutely no sense to me that they ship in August, the hottest time of the year. Maybe they want the plants to die, so they can sell more.
If you don't live in the Pacific Northwest, I don't see how on earth August can be a good time to plant them. Now maybe late August, for very northern areas.
So you don't think there's a problem if I sold them through Classified Ads in early April for mid to late April delivery so they will bloom in June and July?
If you would take Paypal, Pirl, I would be there, for one.
xx, Carrie
oh...im in! I would love to be Pirls first customer, where? when? and how much do I owe?
Go away Carrie (virtural shove here)..im first! LOL
No PayPal, sorry.
Oh dear. Guess I better get busy writing an ad.
LOL, Celeste! x, Carrie
I think that would be ideal.
Oh, oh, you might be sold out already.
A bit too much snow on the ground to even check amounts yet, Polly. The new Ensata catalog arrived today - big troubles!
I got my catalogue, too. I see the prices didn't go down any. Still, there's a few I want.
Now you know how Pixie and I feel with all this snow. At least before you could get out and walk around your yard. With the exception of that two day melt, I haven't been able to get out since mid December.
Are you considering selling a mix of the JIs, Pirl? That's something I have always wondered why the larger companies never did. And the cheesey companies that do like Van Bourgodien send all the plain jane ones. And I know all yours are really pretty ones.
There's a Burpee catalog that's been staring at me for maybe a week. I didn't want to throw it away; I believe I said earlier I was keeping it for ideas! Well I finally opened it and . . . I want it all. Well, not all, but more than I can manage or afford. Like the boxwood basil - oh, I 'll find it, it's cute and it's basil!
http://www.burpee.com/product/herbs/basil/basil+boxwood+-+packet+(100+seeds).do?search=basic&keyword=boxwood+basil&sortby=newArrivals&page=1#
aren't those just the most attractive basil plants, architecturally? But $3.50 for a package? I guess I'm more used to Value Seeds, LOL. And if there are 15 - 20 things I want that average $4 each, I'll blow my semi-perfect score!!!!
x, Carrie
Polly - prices are more than I paid back in 2005! I'd offer people their choice based on what I have and price it accordingly IF I did it.
VB is one to avoid for plants judging by the comments on Garden Watchdog.
Thanks for the compliment!
Oh. My. God. Just spent an hour at ensata.com. I think I need intervention. Or a large infusion of cash.
Cash infusion needed here also, I was on for awhile earlier!
I got a free pack of forget me not with one of my seed orders... anyone want them?
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/54572/
Polly--no picture--I don't usually photo one plant, but the whole garden--this one is growing on the road side of our fence, & I don't usually plant the best there--however, I will gladly take a pic for you when it's blooming--just remind me--there are several of the 30 year old varieties out there--nothing kills them--my $15.00 ones? Gone, from who knows what!
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