Rose has roots now what?

i bet roots are in the peat pellets too....thanks for the update...; i have all the things to do the set up but have just been stalled....don't know why i won't 'go' but haven't....

in the meantime propagation is wierd and unpredictable at best....some of my stuff that rooted well 2 weeks ago ....well, the new cuttings have the leaves all falling off.....

Oh sticks, don't tell me that. I have so many cuttings looking good. I would hate to think I could lose them. 8^O

no no...yours are probably fine...i am just saying that MY cuttings are doing differently than they were weeks ago...that nature give me a different result at different times ....with the same process both times....go figure:)

Are you adding water or nutrient solution when the level gets low?
If your adding nutrient your solution might be getting too strong-water is going away and the fertilizer is building up.
If your adding just water to nutrient, your solution might be getting too weak.
If your using just water the calcium etc. might be building up

Your pots might be needing a rinsing out.
Nutrient/Residue might be building up in the peat pots or in whatever medium your using.
Your cutting might have used up one of the nutrients in your solution too.
If your not using anything but water you might want to try adding a weak fertilizer mix-1/4 strength or so.

I used to have a hydroponic setup that was pretty much like the cloners you are using.
You had to wash out the growing medium every couple weeks to rinse out the old nutrient solution and then add new one.Use the old for your lawn or garden...

Might be worth a try.Couldn't hurt.
If your resivoir holds 2 qts. rinse with 4-6qts. of water,let it drain then refill with fresh solution-water whatever you've been using.
Pour the water through the peat pellets into the resivior,then toss out the rinse water in your garden or houseplants.

smoke...i am not sure if you were talking to me...but i was just talking about cuttings in soil...not in the hydroponic system

I have learned, at least for me, my neglect produces the most fruitful results. I tried to root ivy but failed. lol. I have cuttings from roses, on the wrong wood, at the wrong time of year, and I get roots. Go figure!

Well did you guys check for roots in the peat pellets?? I have new growth on the roses, but no roots, so I got irritated and took them out and put them in soil mix in the terrarium/aquarium. everything else I put in there is already rooting well, (lavender cuttings, other roses, brug cuttings, and a couple of corkscrew willow tree cuttings,and 1 broken little limb from a clematis)I really wanted these particular rose clippings to grow too.

Oops, sorry Kel. I DO have roots. I have take pics, but haven't got the proper cord to connect my camera. I will get this week hopefully. I unrolled the peat pellet and they had formed inside. I am going to just plant the pellet in a pot. Wish me luck!! I checked my camillia, as it was the easiest to sacrifice and the one with least growth.

About how long was it before you all started to see roots? I think I have had mine in the cloner for 2-3 days and nothing so far. I added some coleus to it today to see what it would do.

Oh, definitely let me know about the coleus. It is a plant close to my heart. It took a while. I would say at least two weeks. However, the benefits where great. I have tried every method I could find to root the rose. This is the first close success I have had. I won't know for sure until I transplant it. How did you hold the coleus in the cup?

I got these little plug things that are similar to the peat pellet things. They look like you pulled the dirt out of a tiny pot and it came out whole. Weird. I forget what they call them but the guy say they were a growth medium made of ground mulch and some other stuff and they feel like a sponge. I poked a hole though them like the other lady did with the min blocks or rock wool or whatever they were and made sure the roots go through and hang out the bottom.
The one thing I did notice about the store bought cloners though is that all the holes have a little plug to them. It was rubber and went around the base of the plant at the top of the cup/hole to keep the water from evaporating out of the machine. Think this makes any difference too?
And can someone tell me what the aquarium/terrarium method is like? How it is done?

I just have a big aquarium with a glass top and an aquarium light on top of it, (like an aquarium) with small cups that I put potting soil and pearlite in. I dipped my cuttings in rooting hormone and stuck them in the soil. 5 different rose cuttings (1 from a bouquet DH brought home) all of them are rooting, and have new growth on them.

Add to the list, must hijack DH's aquarium. Do you think he would notice if plants were in there instead of fish? Do they have fish shaped plants?

I was worried about the evaporation also, so I stuck plastic bags in the hose not in use. I think with the plastic bags, it has contained the moisture and I haven't added any additional water and, believe me, it isn't air tight in those holes DH made.

If the coleus is going to root, it should not take to long. I have seen roots in 3 or 4 days. Please keep me updated on those if you don't mind.

DR. TA, Are you seeing this. They are speaking in Coleus. Come quickly!

Sticks, I must have your landscaping program. I am in the addy, so please feel free to send it on. Thanks much! ;^)

okay i started mine tonight...i didn't put anything in the cups but the plants...i am wondering if that is a mistake? does one need something in the cup besides the cutting? does soil/planting med etc actually help the cutting grow? i put 5 begonia cuttings that were not doing anything in water...and i put one geranium in...didn't use a light either...i may chicken out and put some peat in with the cuttings...cause 5 of the cuttings i cant reproduce they all came from other peoples plants sent to me...

Sticks, I am no expert, believe me. I have only been gardening for 3 1/2 months. That said, my roots grew in the peat pellet pots. Now I do have begonias in water that are rooting, but I think there are different ways to propagate begonias, depending on the plant. Hope that helps a little and good luck. I will be looking in my mail box for your landscape software. Actually, going to google it right now!

Feeling pretty dense here..... If the roots grow both in the pot and under the pot at the base of the cutting, how do you get these plants out of the cup? Do you cut them out?

ardesia...i had already anticipated that question...and i am going to cut mine out...altho the cups are not that easy to 'create'....it takes a minute or 2 when you really think about it....but i would rather not have to do that...then again, i would rather be rich and have the garden of eden....(grin)

pupil...it is sierra home landscaping...you can get it on , amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Custom-Land-Designer-3D-Design/dp/B0009IZG9I/ref=sr_1_3/105-0245711-1238062?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1193669200&sr=8-3

I didn't have anything other than the clippings in each cup at first. When Pupil said she had growth in the peat pellets though, I put some of the little growth block things in cause I figured I was doubling my chances. If I didn't get roots growing from the bottom then maybe I could get it from the leaf joints going into the pellet. I don't really know though and am just experimenting. The store bought ones I saw didn't have anything other than the clippings in each cup so I guess either is okay.

Here is my problem - some of the rose stems are dipping into the water! Are they simply going to rot? Or will they take in the water + nutrients and help generate roots in the peat pellet/coir?

If they are simply going to rot - what is an easy way to keep the stems from sliding down into the water?

Finally - any idea on when I should look for roots? In 10 days? three weeks?

Oh - and I potted up another rose cutting - the roots were almost 2 inches long - but there were just buds where leaves will be emerging. Did I pot it up too early? I have kept it covered with a plastic bag to ensure continued humitidy until the leaves really do emerge.

Ga, you crack me up. Everything I try is always this plant thingy or the watchamacallit. I definitely not very plant savvy on the correct verbage.

The peat pellet is sitting in the cup, which has a nice size hole in the bottom to let the stem hang through. If the new growth is in both the pot and the base, I won't have to cut anything out. Just pull it out of the hole in the cup, CUT THE NETTING OFF THE PELLET (something I learned by mistake. lol.) and pot it all up. If you look at post #4084366, you can get an idea of what I am trying so hard to say but failing miserably.

I can't wait to get my stupid cord for my camera. I don't know about ya'll but this is so fascinating to me.

One problem I do have, is the cutting doesn't like to stay in the pellet firmly. Next round, I am going to add a stablizer, such as rock, around the pellet so it fits more snuggly (is that a word?).

Hope this helps. Also GA's pic on post # 4129994 has a good shot of the holes in the cup where the stem comes out. I don't think any cutting out will be necessary.

Sticks, thanks. It got horrid reviews from purchasers, but every landscape review company I read raved about it and said the reviews where probably from those who wanted to have everything done for them. I am going to go ahead a purchase it. I think it looks wonderful and have enough since to know to read the instructions first!! That was one thing that cracked me up from the bad reviews, "I confess I didn't read all the directions.....But it was not easy to navigate." Bet it would have been at least a little easier if you had read them. LOL.

Sendor, I hope the above helps with the "sliding out problem". Sorry I just now addressed it. I have mine 1 1/2" and would prefer 2" above the water. It will rot, I think, if you don't have them high enough.

I think you did fine, as long as any growth is showing and you have roots. But not an expert here. This is a very big trial and error stage for me. I am going to simply look for the new growth above the pellet and leave it in there for an additional week or 10 days. Inital trial remember. lol.

Thanks - well, it is just a few - and they have only been in the water since Saturday afternoon - I will try to rescue them this evening.

Okay, I deserve the idiot of the year award for this one but here goes....Should I have my box in sunlight? I hadn't thought about that and it has been sitting in the corner in the kitchen on the counter top. Maybe I should move it to in front of the large picture window in the dining room?

I have a cheap grow light lamp throwing some light and heat at my box - which is located in my basement. I put a heater in the water to keep everything warm.

I have mine under a shop light. I don't have a heater, but it is not cool here yet. It couldn't hurt to but it in the sunlight, but I wouldn't put in direct sun. It may get too hot and if you have covered the leaves with dome of some sort, I believe it can burn the leaves.

Seandor: I did this a few years ago and the end of the experiment happened when I put in the aquarium heater and everything got too hot.

Make sure it is on lowest heat. When i did it though we had the roots directly in the water. This method may make the roots less vulnerable to over heating because you are really using vapor rather than water to stimulate the rooting.

Okay - another reason for making sure the stems are not IN the water lol :-)

I love EXPERIMENTING!! Calling all Dr. Fronkensteins!!

My idea of a floating tray has already been done.
http://www.howtohydroponics.com/hydroponic_raft.html

pupil...the landscaping program is pretty drag and drop kinda program...you look at your picture of your front yard and say ...'how would a tree look right there?;....the program lets you go to the 'trees' selection and drag a tree to that area....; etc etc...you can make the tree bigger or smaller....etc etc; i loved the program cause it will let you put all kinds of stuff in your yard ....and then you can rip it back out if it doesn't look right

I just ordered a used copy of the landscaping program for $8. (apparently doesn't have the original box) - I figure for that amount of $, if I never get around to using it, I won't feel too guilty.

Meanwhile, I have removed about a quart of water from my plastic container and the rose stems no longer dip into the water.

Anyone have roots yet?

i am not doing roses...but other things....i have a begonia that had fallen into the water and it has roots...nothing else has roots...; i got my landscaping program on ebay for 9 bucks new...but i bet yours will be great....it is fairly easy

Sticks, which version do you have? Sorry to keep on this, but I want to make sure I get the right one. I have seen where one is good, the next not, and then the next good again.

i dont have a clue...i will check at the store tommorrow...that is where i left it

TY. ;^)

my software doens't have a version on it...it just sez for windows 98

That's the version. I also did some googling today and found some great set ups. I will add the links after I answer 19,848 D's.

Has anyone gotten any roots on their roses yet?

COLEUS - Update on my bubbler and a note for the coleus people here....Pupil.
I totally gave up on my bubbler. Nothing was dying but nothing was taking root either. Just kind of sat there. Anyway, I left it alone and in the end I gave up but today as I am getting ready to do away with it, I figured I'd take one last look at it. I look and everything is definitely dead but low and behold, my coleus took root. The larger clipping I took did nothing and I assume it is because it was from the big, thick, woody, main stem. However, the couple little clippings I took from the softer parts have roots about an inch or so long and lots of them. Which then makes me ask (since I am new to gardening and have no coleus experience), what do I do with them now? Should I pot them up? How do I overwinter coleus in the house? Will it get very big? It is very dark and looks similar to 'blackberry waffle' or 'sorcerer'.

Anyway, all this leads me to believe that the guy at the hydro store was right. I have been looking in catalogs and reading up on hydroponics and him and everything I have read all say that this method is better for 'limp' branched or softwood kind of stuff especially veggies and coleus. I tend to believe it because I just grabbed a bunch of stuff and put it in and the only thing that took was the coleus. My mums didn't even take and they seem to be the one thing even I can't mess up.

Hey all. I have one tropical Hib and one cameilla potted up and doing good. The roots were in the peat pellets. I haven't checked on it since then. I guess I will go do that now. Here are possibly the worst pictures ever taken, but hope you can see something. Can't wait to get my new camera in.

The first was above the peat pellet, you can see, hopefully, the leaves coming out.