Rose has roots now what?

thanks so much for all the photos...i learn better by photos than by words....; where do you get the starter blocks? and how much is an airstone?

I got the starter blocks at local garden center,maybe peat moss would work too I'm not sure.
The air stone was $3.97 at walmart.

walmart i can do...the starter blocks i have never seen here....peat moss would probably make a mess in the water....

do you think this set up would work? is this all i would need?


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so i went back to see his set up...he has a timer that turns the thing on once an hour for 15 minutes....so you have yours to do that or is it on constantly for how many minutes/hours...; he doesn't talk about a grow light...or at least i didn't see that he did...is that your invention?

I leave mine on all the time because it is also hooked up to my fish aquirium and the fishies would not like that on and off breathing thing :)
I read another site on this and they said to leave it on all the time at the beginning and than on and off later on.
The grow light was also mentioned at some other sites. There are lots of viewpoints on this,

Sue

Glamourpuss, I am so loving this thread. Like Sticks, I learn better with pics. DH is out picking up remainder of Materials. Instead of the water bottles, as we do not have many and all are being used in other "experiments", Do ya'll think a plastic ziploc secured with rubber band would work?

Thanks for the other link also,
Traci

yep I bet that would work just fine. Just something for the green house effect. Please post your results here.

Sue

Will Do. Thanks for the info and motivation!!

Went out immediately after reading this thread and bought the stuff! I am going to spend this evening putting it together.

This is pretty cool . . . . thank-you so very much glamourpuss!

You got me interested and did some reading.
It is better to have a light proof container and lid.
Water temperature of 72 degrees.
Add some HO2O to the water. Watch the water PH.
Looking for me a container to start. Ted

Thanks Ted, I had read that about the lightproof container also. I think I might pick up one soon.
The reason for that is to prevent algae growth.
Mine is sitting right next to my aquarium and it is near a heat vent also so temperature should not be a problem.
Also I read that it might be best to let the water sit out for 24 so any clorine will evaporate.
This is great we can all be scientists! Please report your progress everyone.

glamour...i am not sure if you looked at this from the thread above...but do you think this would work?

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I'm not familiar with that one but as long as it makes bubbles I bet it would work.

well for the price then it might be a good thing for someone going small scale...where are the other 'scientists' when i need them....grin:)

It's like junior high science class when I had to plant beans and than put some in the dark , some with no water and some with water and light and report on the results :)

Wow, I just decided to change my plans for in between morning and eve church tomorrow. I know what I will be doing at home will be lots more fun!!
Thanks so much for sharing your wonderful experience with your wonderful experiment with us.
Charlene

I made a bubbler for Brugs and one thing you don't want to skip on is the Air Pump.
Get one that dont make so much noise. LOL

glamorpuss I'm in your geographical area and share your obsession for roses. But I am amazed that you grow hybrids T's (or maybe I miss understood) in UPPER MI.!
I gave up years ago after loosing 100s or having them come out of winter so puny
they lost vigor. You seem to have some expertise I don't yet know.
I love your idea here!! Please share any info on growing in your conditions that you can. What zone are you in??

Hello,
I'm in zone 5 but I don't have many hybrid teas. Most of mine are buck roses and canadian roses. I have about 60 roses bushes now, some are growing in pots. The roses in pots I plan to bring inside and winter in my basement. I am fairly new to roses and these are what I found at our local garden center but I just love the old antique garden roses . I bought a book on growing canadian roses from 1957 and I have been researching antique roses that are hardy to colder climates (some are even hardy to zone 3 or 4).
My plan is to have rose gardens with these roses. I would love to start them from cuttings that I can trade with other people because roses are not cheap and I want a lot of them :)
There is a person in my master gardener group who has many hybrid teas and they have had good luck getting them through the winter. I believe they cover them and mulch with oak leaves. They also have tree roses that they bury in the ground till spring.
This site has a list of roses that can grow in canada by zone. Just click on recommended roses
http://www.canadianrosesociety.org/

This is a total learning experience for me and it has been fun. I just love roses!

Sue




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Dr TA,
Did this method work well on brugs. I have TONS of cuttings coming my way and want to root them properly!! You expertise is alway welcome.

Traci

I am also a master gardener so hello to all of you who share that small but enlightening experience. I went to the home of the president of a local rosarian group. He
built boxes out of foam sheets with holes at the top to pretect beds of roses ovwer winter. He made them 4x8' and some he custom cut to fit. He told me one secret was to plant about 3" deeper than the container they are grown in. He said don't go 6" which many recommend. He said the reson was that in that 6' depth you could fool the rose in the fall cold or spring thaw to percieve a much different condition 6" below the soil than what the real conditions were for the above ground portion of the plant. perhaps causing too late of growth or too soon to bud. He also said his group found mulch was too airy and too quick to freeze and hold ice around the base of the stem. He recommended soil pilled up about 6" around each crown. I started doing that last year. I use a bag of compost so when i move it in spring it adds to it's vitality. I love mulch but i have to agree with the rosarians the soil works great. He said it is more insulating and less likely to freeze individually and leave open spaces around the cane or canes. Just thought this might help. I have not gone the route of biulding his rose boxes but i also loved that idea!! Rose cones are way to small for established plants and not tall enough. I only prune back very few unweildly canes the real pruning happens in the spring.

Thanks jazzzy that is interesting. It's almost time to thinking about winterizing my roses although today is 60 and sunny.

Traci the method I used was a fish tank with the cuttings sitting about half way in the water. I used the air pump to put oxygen into the water. Most Brug cuttings are too big to use above method. Use any kind of container to hold them and watch the water level does not get too low.
Add HO2O every once in a while. You can leave them that way all winter if you want.

Oh Glam. I am in zone 5b. But the rear of my yard faces north and is in a valley that gets swept with cold and actually I have always felt it was a zone 5a. The front of my home on the s. side and east can grow zone 5b and some zone 6a. I believe I have a little micro climate going on there. I have pineapple plant Eucomis comosa which is zone 7 coming back year after year and calla lilly. I also have montana rubens clematis
which is zone 6. If all my roses could be put in front of my house i would not have a problem but i do have losses in the yard which is the same zone as yours I believe. Please tell me your best growers. i have some real good ones too. Maybe we could exchange some stuff. I will report back with some varieties after i check them out.

Thanks DR. I have several in water right now and change it daily. The "nubules?" are really starting to show. Should I go ahead and move to pots or continue with the water? I was thinking, after I did the post, "how would I fit them in the cup?". LOL.

I recomend roundup on those roses... see my post above... lol

Wow, a cynic. Even it they don't happen in 24 hrs, I bet the this method will work. Too much on hydroponics to prove otherwise. Everybody, prepare your box and show your stuff!!

Perhaps I missed this in earlier posts but I am confused by the three cuttings in each cup. Are there three cuttings in each cube also or three cubes in each cup?

just one cube but there is room for 3 cuttings so I put three. You can just put one if you like.

Glamour, I have mine made. I just have to put cuttings in. I will send pics as soon as I do. Crossing my fingers, as I am going to try several different plants. Did you see TArogers now post on his version?

cant wait to see pupil!!!!!

Just tinkering on mine. Will post photos if it works.

oh good can't wait to see pictures. My plant that got roots right away is still going strong, leaves are nice and green.
The 2 others I started the next day have little nubs of roots starting also.

Wow. This is exciting. Very cool. Am thinking of the list of things around the garden that I've been wanting to clone . . .

DR. TA, please post if it doesn't. Then we will know NOT what to do ;^>

OK, but I am still a bit puzzled. The cubes are designed to have the roots grow into them and three cuttings in one cube would make a mass of roots wouldn't it? Are you going to plant them as one plant or try and seperate them? Also, I am guessing you cut off the plastic cup when you are ready to plant?

Starting out immediately with a disclaimer. DH knows nothing about gardening and is a civil engineer, thus qualifying him, in his mind, that I did not need to be around while he made this (I was on the phone and he could not wait, as he is a kid in the candy store when he gets to use tools). Therefore, several modifications will be done to it while he is at work. That way I don't have to explain to him what I am doing and why I am messing with a perfectly "great" design. He did relatively ok, but there are several things I am going to do the make is "greater". I will post when I do.

The prototype of the "Glamourous Propagation Station"

We used the lid of the box. Needless to say, MODIFICATIONS. I have cups stuck in the empty holes that he already cut and had to put plastic bags in them to keep evaporation down.

I just went outside and cut various limbs to see how each would do. I have not been gardening for more than three months, so all is trial and error. I have in here a beautiful yellow rose already in the yard, Camellia already here, Hydrangea in a pot (can't plant because ground is harder that steel, reinforced with iron and covered with titanium), Hardy Hibiscus, and Tropical Hibiscus. The DH cut the holes to large so another modification is in order and the edges are rough, there's another.

Once I finish this, I will post changes made.

Oops, same picture.

Excuse the water, the plant starter made it cloudy. Currently the cuttings are only an inch above, so I don't know if these fellas will make it, but after reconstruction, they will be two inches above the water.