Rose has roots now what?

Hi Everyone,
I decided to experiment with a homemade plant cloning system. I got the idea from one of the posts here and I made a smaller version of it.
It is the one made with the plastic tote and the aquarium pump. I will take a picture later and post it.
Well I am very excited I put it together yesterday potted up 3 roses cuttings in a cup and this morning it is covered in white roots.
So now what? I think I should leave it be for a few more days. Because I live in Upper Michigan where it is getting cold, I think I better keep the baby roses inside for the winter..
If I pot them up and store them in my cool basement will that work? Do I need to put grow lights on the? How about watering them?

Thanks,
Sue

Sue, you got roots in one day?!? I MUST see this system (she says all a-tither).

You sure its not mould? 1 day for roots covered? Sounds like a miracle if its true..... mind you roses are the weeds of the garden... (sorry had a job prunning roses years ago, the first couple i enjoyed a week later and hands that bled alot i hated them!)

I don't know if they're roots or not. I'm pretty new at this but they have white stringy looking things growing on them. How's that for a discription, lol.
I will try to take a picture this evening and post them.

Sue

hmmm white stringy! you sure its not just string! heehe seriously if they are roots in 24 hours then that is one good set up you have so carry on experimenting. Roses are probably one of the harder things to start with so don't be disheartened if they don't grow.

Here is the basic info I used for the cloning machine but I made a smaller version of it. It has nine cups, I put 3 rose clippings in each cup.
http://www.geocities.com/WallStreet/District/9046/hydro/cloner.htm
I will take some pictures of my set up tonight and the results.
I don't know if it's going to work or not but it is very interesting.
Sue

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Hi everyone, can I jump in here...please, please, please?

I was just d-mailed this thread and checked out the link you posted. This set up looks awesome and I can't wait to try it. I wish I would have seen it earlier this year, but it's never too late to find a great thing. I've been using bubblers for a few years now and this looks even more promising. It's got my mind going a hundred miles a minute thinking of all the reasons it could/should/would work better.

I can't wait to see the pics of your set up and those roses! Have you tried rooting anything else in it or were the roses your guinea pigs? Are you using plain water or did you add anything to it?

I'm so glad to see that water rooting experiments and homemade contraptions are still going strong! :)
Heather

I bookmarked the site immediately! I know what I am asking for Christmas :-)

you can do the same thing on a smaller scale with a fish tank bubbler thing...(word escape me right now...but will post the name when my brain comes up for air)

Just showed this to DH and said make it NOW! We have an old fish tank with all the necessary parts. Hope to have one this weekend.

Glamourpuss, can't wait to see your pics. What a great set up!!

Get that air soon Sticks, I have several smaller sterlite boxes too!!

you go gurl:)

O.k. here is how I set it up. Beleive me if I can make one of these anybody can do it and I had a lot of the stuff around the house so it didn't cost too much.

Here is the equipment I used:
1 plastic box (discard cover or use for another project)
1 pieces of one inch or so styrofoam
an air stone for an aquarium
a razor blade knife
an aquarium air pump
plastic air tubing for the pump
starter mini blocks
plastic cups
plastic water bottles
plant starter



For the box I used a sterlite 12 qt box from walmart. It was $2.63. I could have used the cover but I did not have the right tools to cut the circles so instead. I used a piece of styrofoam, less than $4.00. It was large enough to get two pieces out of it. So I can make another one.
I used a drinking glass to press circles in the stryfoam and than cut out the circles with a razor blade knife.
Make sure the circles are not bigger than your plastic cups.


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These are the plastic cups I used

Than I cut slits in the sides with the razor blade knife and a hole in the bottom for the stems to stick out

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Into the bin I added about 2 1/2 to 3 inches of water and 3 teaspoons of plant starter. The amount I used was just a guess. Than I put in the airstone hooked up to the aquarium pump. (a airstone was $3.97)

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Next I added the styrofoan sheet with holes

and put it on top of the bin

Next I took a mini block and put in water as directed on the package. I added the rose clippings and put the block with the rose in one of the cups. The stems of the cuttings were poking out of the bottom of the cup by about 1 inch.
I than placed the cup in one of the styrofoam holes. I made a dome for the top by cutting of the end of a water bottle (the part you drink out of). I than placed that over the cutting and made a label for the plant and stuck that in the side of the cup.
That is basically all there is to it. The airstone makes the water bubble, which make a mist that splashes on the cutting.

the finished product

another view

This in the plant starter I used. I bought this at the garden center. Probably any rooting solution might do.

These are the mini starter blocks I bought. Also at my local garden center.

a close up of the mini blocks

This is the aquarium pump I used. It was already hooked upto my aquarium (koi from outdoor pond). I just used one of the outlets and hooked it to the cloner as well.

I have a gooseneck desk lamp beside the cloner with a grow light bulb in it (60 watts). I turn it on in the morning for a few hours and at night also for a few hours. The bubbler in the cloner stays on all of the time.
Yesterday I put in 3 cuttings from a rose in one of the cups. This morning it seems to already have roots forming.
I tried to take a picture of it but it is rather blurry.
This is a very fun experiment and I plan on rooting some more roses and maybe a few african violet leaves also.

show the roots show the roots;)

omg...i see roots;)

I know pretty cool huh!

do you put the rose in the mini block and then put the mini block in the cup?

yep that's it. First I wet the mini block.

so is the picture that i see the 3 stems .....are they sticking thru the block and the cup? and we are to assume that they are producing roots thru the block as we speak?

okay with reference to you rose question....; i don't have a clue...i rooted a rose...but it was already in soil...; these plants start getting tricky from there....the fast propagation i have had was in a baggie with soil...and the moment i took the baggie off everything started wilting....so i basically had to unzip the baggie very slowly and start pulling it down the plants...it was another week of 'hardening off' so to speak so that the plants wouldn't wilt....and were finally able to be in the air without wilting...; so with reference to your rose, i would think it needs more roots...but if you pull it out of the water ASAP i would think it would be detrimental to the rose, but i think trial and error would be the rule of thumb....if this is your only rose cutting then i would go slow...if not, i would let the roots get longer and maybe then put in soil and see what happens...

some of my tempermental cuttings, like fan flower that i couldnt' get to root 3 times worth until i tryed the baggie method....they produced 2 roots each and when i finally pulled the baggie down 2 of them died.....then when i started moviing to the sun slowly....well one died...i have one left...they were tempermental

That is too cool. Please keep the pics updated and if you are successful transplanting it into soil. I will seriously have one this weekend!!

well today I put some more rose cuttings in the cloner. The first batch I did have roots and they seem to have grown a little bit. The second batch that I put in yesterday both have little roots starting.

I took some more pictures:

This one is the starting block with I soaked in water for a few minutes. I than opened it up and put the rose cuttings in the middle and closed it back up. You can use a piece of tape to keep it closed it need be.

Than you put the clippings in the cup with the roots sticking out of the bottom.

Here is a close up

Than cut the top off of a water bottle and place over the cup like a little green house.

Here are the clippings in the starter

My plan is to leave them in the cloner for about a week. I will check daily for signs of mold or other problems.
I will than take remove the bottles to harden them off.
The person who invented this system (see link at the top of this post for his pictures) says that he transplant the cuttings in 12 ounce cups with potting mixture.
This is just a trial and error experiment so we'll see how it goes. I will post more pictures in a few days of the roots.
I also will try some african violet leaves and see how that works.
My main interest is antique garden roses so I hope this works out because I'd love to trade cuttings with people in the spring.

Sue

Here are some additional tips from the website where I got the instructions to make this.
I did not follow all of these tips this time but I might in the future.
http://www.jasons-indoor-guide-to-organic-and-hydroponics-gardening.com/cloning-success.html


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