Ok, Here is a new thread to start fresh for all those new pictures coming up. We will attempt to do a count of colors in the future.
To go back to the distribution thread and baby pictures of the first cotyledons go here:
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/743864/
To go back to the first result thread go here:
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/762062/
This message was edited Sep 7, 2007 12:58 PM
It won`t allow me to edit anymore. To go back to the thread featuring the F1 parent plnt go here.
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/723601/
This is the pink x purple blizzard crossed plant from which these over 100 hand pollinated seeds came from.
This is a picture of the F1 at a distance. It was interesting to get a purple flower from a pod from a pink flower. This had solid flowers that became increasingly marked with blizzard until alomost completely lavender with a purple ring around the white throat. It was a progressing blizzard pattern.
Here is a recent picture of some of the results. This one is a lighter purple with a lightening in the folds and a white throat.
So far I have:
2 solid purple
2 pink blizzard
3 purple blizzard with one being lighter than the others
And now on with the show! Ya`ll have a great weekend!!! :)
Karen - Photos from today. Only 2 of the 3 vines are blooming at this time. One is solid and the other blizzard.
Here is the solid purple side of the pot. The bloom at the top is much lighter. I wonder if it is progressively going to get lighter blooms! The flowers are stunning!
This message was edited Sep 7, 2007 10:46 PM
Oh my gosh, they are beautiful.. I love them...
I have one that will open tomorrow, it looks like it will be pink. A couple of the first buds fell off, but I think now they will start blooming.
Nice flowers everyone.
A.
Here is the side of the pot showing the purple blizzard blooms.... Also beautiful!
Man OH Man mine better hurry up!! Love them all!!
Here are my open blooms this morning. I'm showing the group picture. I do have individual pictures of each one.
~Lucy
This one was mostly white. It was pretty.
Love your blooms, Lucy! I, too, like the mostly white one! Beautiful!!!!
I finally found my camera this afternoon.. here is my first one...
sideview... I love it... it looks like both vines in this pot are going to be pink flowers.
Had a Hannahubuki bloom this morning also and put them side by side, Hannahubuki is the one on the bottom left..
Just for comparison.. I took the photo and thought you might want to see it.
Okay guys, I want a purple one..
That`s interesting! They might be related vines. I actually wondered if the pink pod parent was Hannahabuki. If it is Hannahabuki then it would be pleasing to me to know that.
I`m still waiting on colors on two of mine. So, maybe each one can report the colors as soon as all their vines bloom and we can do a count.
Later,
Karen
(I came back to edit this time because the pod and pollen parents were both purchased as Hannahabuki from a open pollinated source. I was unsure and didn`t feel right saying they Were Hannahabuki or if I should say they were Hannahabuki because of the obvious results indicating cross pollination had occured. I was afraid it would be "wrong" if I said that. Since one of the "Hannahabuki" came out purple(instead of pink) it looks like a result of cross pollination. A third vine showed blue so I concluded the seeds were probably taken off the Hannahabuki vine but were results of cross pollination. So these are all Hannahabuki Mixes imho.
Pink doesn`t throw purple but purple can carry for pink. Keep in mind that some of the pink blizzards could still throw for solid pink if they do not have both blizzard genes as Arlan has stated.)
This message was edited Nov 6, 2007 3:10 PM
Antoinette - I would love to trade you some of my PURPLE solid and blizzard seeds for some of your pink! They are beautiful and do look very much like Hannahabuki. That's really cool! I have a thing for pink MGs! And yours are truly lovely! :-)
Karen, yes, I was thinking that when I saw them both sidebyside..
ALrighty Becky, I'll save you some ... I do love those purples.. gosh, this year is something.
Here are two from this morning, the winds had already started on them.. There appears to be another pink flower/vine in the other pot, so far, three pinks.. These were the best photos I got today on these. You can see the nice pink just jump out, I really like them, now I can see the differences in them and the Hanahubuki.. the winds have already picked up, so I don't know what I'll find in the morning.
They are darker tinted but you cannot judge similarities by comparing first blooms on one plant and later blooms on another. The flowers having the same genes acting to cause the affects will cause them to look alike. Mixed seeds can bear striking resemblance to named cultivars because the genes acting to cause the patterns could be the same. However, in this one I doubt it would be homozygous for each set of genes bringing about the flower vine`s characteristics and be dependable to produce a pattern consistently without at least three generations of hand pollinating and selecting and 7 would be better though the selection would get narrowed down each generation.
So, if a special one turns up and you wanted to keep it the way it was then it would take a lot of work,patience and some luck sort of like rolling dice. Some projects would be easier than others depending on what you were working with.
You`d have to get as many selfed pods as you could tie and grow all the seeds. Then you`d have to hunt through them and have a good eye for what they are supposed to look like to the smallest detail and be able to gently and carefully clip out any vines that did not look right piece by piece without cutting the wrong vine. It would take being able to see good close up and manual dexterity to do this job.
This is why my growing structures are never more than 5 feet tall and I keep trees clipped away from them. This is so I can get to the vines without having to climb a ladder to work with them. It is also another reason I want to work with and breed for a smaller variety of vines with larger flowers. It is an idea and one that I hope to see happen step by step and year by year.
That is another thing that makes working with these flowers challenging, interesting and thought provoking.
Karen
My totals are:
2 pink blizzard
2 solid purple
5 purple blizzard
Here is a pink blizzard progressing with the white. The white is increasing with each flower.
I will soon have blooms to share. This is about how big all the plants are. I brought them in the "grow room" where the temps are higher than outdoors and they are now growing faster.
I'm starting to get buds on mine. I have 3, lost 2- 1 was just weak to begin with and the other was a victim of the hottest summer on record here. Am keeping a close eye on these, I can't wait to see what they turn out to be, love what we've seen so far.
Alrighty... I have blooms to share.
Here are 3 separate blooms from one of my plants which seems to produce Pink flowers.
And here are 3 separate blooms from a plant which seems to produce Purple flowers.
All in all I'm very satisfied with the results. These are beautiful, large flowers.
I can't wait to see what else shows up in the future.
Loking at my above post of the purple flowers now... I wonder why they all have torn petals? Is this normal for large MG flowers. All three of the buds opened up to have the petals torn like you see. Could someone explain this to me?
Thanks in advance,
-Andrew
It is typical of large flowers to be torn. The wind tears them, the rain makes them mucky, they get stuck between leaves and get mashed, they can be getting chewed by insects and that will cause more tearing and the list could go on.
The smaller 2-4 inch flowers almost never get torn but they too are sometimes seen looking like they are having a bad hair day as well. However,on the good day when the gusty early morning wind hasn`t torn them to pieces and you see a bunch of perfect flowers it is worth passing over the torn ones and taking a picture of the nice looking ones.
A sight like this is worth the wait. This is the pod parent of the bunch on a good day.
Mullettman, I wanted to add that those are nice for first blooms. Sit back and watch the show. :)
MulletMan, I grow the large MGs and they are rarely torn in my area. I think it's because we have very little wind in our enourmous valley here.
I think the heat has a huge effect, too. The flowers seem much more fragile during the height of summer, like they could be ruined by just a touch..............like they could melt.
Karen,
I got a solid pink yesterday.. so far three vines with pinks and this morning one vine with a purple.. I cannot get out there to take photos today, they are digging a trench in that area and maybe I'll be able to move the pot when they leave in case they bloom tomorrow.
Here is the solid pink (or almost solid) from yesterday.
Karen - This was cool ..... it rained and by the end of the day ...... my PURPLE blizzards turned more magenta/dark pink! I got a kick out of the color transformation! I got the "pink" that I also wanted! LOL!
This message was edited Sep 13, 2007 11:17 PM
A close up of one of the end of the day blooms!
beckygardener,
Wow, they are looking fantastic! If you get a cool overcast day then you can watch all kinds of color changes with the ipomea nils or JMGs.
That rain is so good for them. I collect rain water in a wheel barrel and put plant food in the water when it is time to feed them and it does them a lot of good.
I read somewhere that Ipomoea Nils like these like rich loam soil which is a even mix of sand,clay, organic matter including rotted down manure and silt which looks like like finely ground up rocks. You can see silt washed up on the land after a flood.
Karen
This message was edited Sep 14, 2007 11:27 AM
ok, two of these bloomed yesterday and two this morning. I apologize for the fuzziness, Dr. has me on new meds and I have a slight tremor and no tripod, lol. However the pics should at least give you an idea of the colors.
Here are the ones from yesterday
and another
From today, I've noticed that the last few of them have petals that are folded over. I don't know if this is the nature of these blooms or if something here is the problem.
this had a pretty lavender center
AuntAnne,
you got a nice variety there.
Here is the one that bloomed this morning. It had a darker center than the first one, but it was cooler this morning too, so don't know if it had anything to do with the weather.
Anne - I love the color pattern in yours! Beautiful!!!!
Gourd - LOVE that pink bloom!!! Great photo!!! :-)
Here's my vines today. Nothing more for it to grow up so I have it growing in a circle around itself! Puts on a show every day! Puts a SMILE on my face to step outside the front door!!!
Love this bloom! Looks like a snow storm blizzard raging on this purple bloom!!
I'm enjoying your seeds so much Karen!!!! THANK YOU!!! :-)
