New Forum Please? "Agastaches & Salvias"

May we have a new forum for "Agastaches & Salvias" please? I, and I know others would love one.

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE?! Thanks!!!

This photo is of Salvia 'Raspberry Delight' on 9/19/06.

Marilyn

Please Dave???

Photo is of Agastache 'Desert Sunrise' and of Salvia 'Indigo Spires' on 10/22/06 (closeup).

Marilyn

Come on Dave, please? Pretty please? New forum please?! ;-))

Two Salvia leucantha 'All Purple' plants on 10/18/06.

Marilyn

Two Agastache 'Tutti Frutti' plants blooming 9/25/06.

Marilyn

Dave, may we have a new forum for "Agastaches & Salvias" please?

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE?! ;-))



Agastache 'LSS Hot To Trot', (a Lasy S'S Farm Nursery introduction) I got last year blooming on 10/3/06. Beautiful!!!

Marilyn

Salvia microphylla 'San Carlos Festival'!

I love this one alot!!! Can't get enough of it! Planted it for the first time last year in a 20" plastic pot for the patio. I kept looking at it all season and it just got more beautiful as the season progressed. If it dies because it not hardy, I just keep planting it every year. I just gotta have it! ;-))

Blooming on 10/3/06 and it's gorgeous!

Marilyn

I'd be interested in this too (at least the Salvia half)

Marilyn--you might want to post a link to this thread over in Perennials to see if you can get some more people to come over here and post that they're interested--the admins want to see enough people expressing interest that they think it would be a sustainable forum, so you posting a bunch of times and begging isn't going to work unfortunately! It may be an uphill battle though--someone else suggested a salvia forum a few months ago and if I recall it didn't get very many responses and I'm not sure if adding Agastaches is going to bring in that many more people.

Ecrane,

Thanks for your suggestion! I'll do that and also, put it in the Gardening for Butterflies and Hummers forum, Annuals forum and Rock & Alpine Gardening Discussion Forum.

I remember the forum being requested before too, I pleaded then too (with the others wanting one).

Thanks so much!

Marilyn

This message was edited Feb 5, 2007 4:12 PM

Marilyn, I'm a big fan of agastaches and salvias also... but I'm definitely not a big fan of the splintering of forums! My list of "favorite" forums keeps getting longer and longer, which unfortunately means I participate less often than I'd like in many of them, and I miss a lot of great stuff. Couldn't agastaches and salvias be adequately addressed in either the perennials forum or the cottage garden forum?

Actually, what I'd love to see rather than each type of plant getting its own forum (which seems to be where we're headed at times) is to have a "sticky" thread for a favorite plant at the top of, say, the perennials forum. If you were to manage such a thread, you'd be the only one who could post to it... but every time you started a thread about agastaches or salvias, or saw a good thread about them, or somebody else pointed you to some good info on them, you could add a link to the "sticky." That way, information about agastaches and salvias would be gathered in one, easy-to-find place without getting lost in an isolated forum of their own.

Just my 2 cents... :-)

I think you're probably right critter, and now that I think about it, there's not really that many threads on Salvia's on the perennial forum now, I think when you really want to split off a new forum is when one particular plant is taking up more than its fair share of time on an existing forum (like when Clematis used to take up almost all the threads on the Vines and Climbers, so it got its own forum)

I definitely like the idea of stickies under main forums. I miss some of the people I used to chat & keep up with when I had fewer forums to watch. A stickie though would be a nice idea for those plant groups that require specific care or have a passionate following. I think currently read about agastaches in the Florida, butterfly, and cottage gardening forums. If it went to a separate forum, I'd never see it. if you make a stickie, I'll definitely read it!

maggie

I was coming over to say pretty please but critterologist makes good sense too:) I'm spread a little thin with trying to stay up to date with my watched/favorite forums and the sticky idea sounds like a sensible one. I'll be watching to see what happens!
Thanks for making both suggestions!
Donna

I'd vote for salvias because I'm not as interested in clematis,dahlias, etc. and I don't want to wade through alot of stuff I'm not interested in just to see the occasional salvia. That's the only reason I visit the *other* garden website..the salvia forum. And I really don't like the general format at the other website, but love the salvia forum. The salvia forum there gets a lot of use, also.
Sherry

I went back and took a look at the specific plants forums to see what I might be missing there and there's actually not a one of those that I ever look at...think I visited the roses forum once. They all seem to have people who frequent them, so I suspect there are others who don't want to wade through forums containing all plants in general. That's like a garden column where you never know what may pop up...interesting and fun to read, but if you want specific info on a certain type of plant it's easier to find it all in one forum. For those who really love roses, I'm sure they grow other things also, but they want to know all about roses particularly. Same thing with those into dahlias. Some of us are simply mostly interested in specific plants and not a general forum. Is it that much more trouble to run specific forums?
Sherry

I think it's easier to glance down through a general forum and find (or search for) threads concerning the specific plant that interests you than it is to visit 25 different specific plant forums because you're trying not to miss important information about the plants you're trying to grow in your mixed perennial garden.

"Tomatoes" and "Peppers" got split out from "Vegetable Gardening" because there was so much chatter about them that other types of veggies were being crowded out... I've never noticed Salvia discussions taking over the perennial forum... and I think that's a factor that admin considers when deciding to add a new forum. Otherwise, we'd have hundreds more forums, one for everybody's favorite plant, and I think that would make DG pretty unwieldy.

I still would like a separate forum for 'Salvias and Agastaches'. There are other forums that have their own separate forum.

We probably all have differing ideas on how we use the forums. I'd go along with whatever the majority wants and uses. I would still give my support to Marilynbeth because it would be useful to me, but it's not a crucial factor for me either...I can still get good salvia info at gardenweb. Not everything works for everyone.
Sherry

Marilynbeth I've never grown Agastaches & Salvias but love yours and sure would like to grow them and see a forum for them also !
To me it is hard to go threw forums searching for particular plants.
I like your idea for a new forum Marilynbeth for Agastaches & Salvias !!

I grow quite a few different perennial salvias... and just got a couple types of agastaches this past summer.

I visit quite a few forums here at Daves... the Perennial forum being one of my favorites. Even though I have an interest in salvias... I think I would miss posts about them if they went to a forum of their own, instead of being in the general perennials forum because I am not sure I would check a forum on them alone. I do check the posts about them in the perennial forum when they are posted. I have a lot of interests, and it is sometimes difficult to check all the individual forums to keep up on all the plants I enjoy. I really like shrub roses... but I don't check the rose forum for example... just not enough hours in the day. I really like heuchera... and I do check the forum for those. Once in a while I will check the peonies, or other individual forums, but I check the perennials forum regularly.

I remember I made a post a while back about a beautiful salvia I purchased... Salvia pitcheri - "Azure Sage".... so I thought I would go back and find that post and see how many posts about Salvia and agastache were made since then. I found my post on Oct. 6, 2006. Since then, I found your post asking for a new forum, one post about salvia made by Vossner with 11 responses..... and one about agastache posted by ardesia with only 3 responses. My post on Oct. 6 only had 7 responses. That's only 3 posts in 4 months.

In contrast, I happened to notice that there were 4 posts about hellebores in that same time. BUT... one had 11 responses, one had 144, one had 152, one had 262. I think these are the kind of numbers of responses that the Admins would be looking for to support a new forum on a specific plant.

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This message was edited Feb 7, 2007 8:01 PM

I wonder, if all of the plant specific forums were put into one....how long would it take to read all of that also? It would seem to me that the same number of posts would take the same amount of time regardless of which forum they're in. The salvia forum would interst me because I grow a wide variety of things, but about 100 varieties of salvia and intend to add more. They're a very diverse group, so there's a wide range of info.
Sherry

It may also be that there are few posts re salvias on the perennial forum, but would be more on a salvia forum. I just checked the salvia forum on gardenweb and there were 76 posts at least in the last 2 weeks on their salvia forum.

I planted four Agastache 'Desert Sunrise' last Spring. They bloomed like crazy but they fell over many of the plants surrounding them and they were a good three feet high. Does anybody have any ideas about what kind of support I should give the agastaches?

Thanks,

Chuck

I was sure I posted that I was interested in a agastache and or salvia forum, must have forgotten to click 'send'.

Donna

I would also like an agastache and salvia forum, I've been getting into more salvias lately and it would be a good place to share photos and swap information to do with them.

Steven

Sherry,

I agree with you ......

Last year for Salvias I was growing in the ground and/or containers ............

Raspberry Delight, Hot Lips, Indigo Spires, Hot Pink, Mystic Spires Blue, Darcyi, Penstemonoides, Black & Blue, Lady in Red, Dark Dancer, Mulberry Jam, leucantha (purple & white), leucantha (all purple), Miniata (the Belize Sage), Maraschino, Cherry Chief, San Carlos Festival, Elegans, Flame, Wild Thing, Vanhouttii (the one from Lazy S's color), Blue Hill, Maynight, Caradonna, Eveline (think thats what it is - looks like the Pink Delight Salvia on Plants Delight), Viola Klose.


This year, I'm getting so far...............

Raspberry Delight, Black Cherry, Hot Lips, Indigo Spires, Darcyi, Penstemonoides, leucantha (purple & white), Maraschino, San Carlos Festival, Vanhouttii (the one from Lazy S's color), Nekan, California Sunset, Chamaedryoides, Coahuilensis, coccinea 'Bicolor', Darcyi , greggii 'Desert Blaze', greggii 'Diana', greggii 'Furman's Red', greggii 'Purple', greggii 'Watermelon' greggii 'Raspberry Royal', greggii 'Yellow Cloud', guaranitica 'Blue Enigma', microphylla 'Wild Watermelon', splendens 'Caribbean Coral', splendens 'Faye Chapel', splendens 'Piasa Pink', splendens 'Pine Knot Peach', van houttei ‘Dancing Flame’, Purple Majesty, Van Houtti (the one from Logee's color), Sinaloensis and I'm sure I'll find Patens 'Blue Angel', Elegans, Lady in Red and Black & Blue in town.

I'm still interested in getting more Salvias.

I used to only grow Lady in Red (one of my old time favorites), the short bedding Salvias you see at stores, Black and Blue and once in a great while Pineapple Sage (gets really big and blooms late in the season).

Now I have a wonderful passion for Salvias and Agastaches! ;-))

I'll still be growing (because they're hardy here) ........

Wild Thing, Blue Hill, Maynight, Caradonna, Eveline, Viola Klose and because I already have them, even though I'm getting more, Raspberry Delight, Maraschino, and I'm hoping all the greggii's survive the Winter and 'come back' this year.

Marilyn



This message was edited Feb 8, 2007 1:09 AM

Marilynbeth...yes! and you have some that I don't have. Cabrillo College out here has their annual plant sale in May and I'm going to have to go. I really don't like doing big sale events, but I looked at their list of what they had last year and I really think I'm going to have to go. Hitch up the trailer and spend the weekend. They had ones I haven't been able to find here locally andI'm not interested in buying mail order. Even here we've had freezesthat we never get. We've never even had frost on our property in 24 years and I'd been setingout a lot of new salvia.I've had some losses and it's made me rethink what gets planted where. Did you see the bulleyana that Tom from Israel is looking for seed of? Gotta have that! Thompson & Morgan U.K. site has a photo....stunning. It's interesting to see what survives your winters.
Sherry

Sherry,

Lucky you to have places in CA to get Salvias and not have to do mail order!

I did a google search and saw that pic that Thompson & Morgan has........

http://plants.thompson-morgan.com/uk/en/product/8682/1?RA=tiscali

Very beautiful!

Since its 2 am here and I have to get up in 3 hours (eek!), I'd better get some sleep. Good chatting with you.

Marilyn

Sorry about posting a question. I thought that the new forum was a done deal. Anyway I just wanted to say that beside the agastaches, I have Blue Annual Salvias in my garden every year. I also have a Salvia greggii and a Salvia leucophylla.

I am always willing for a good chat and I am definitely in favor of a separate forum.

Thanks,

Chuck

Marilynbeth,
Yes, but did I mention that I'll drive several hundred miles to this sale?! Oh, on the Blue Angel..don't know why but I can't seem to keep that one alive.
Sherry

Sherry,

Guess I was too tired because it was so late for me. Sorry.

I'm still tired now. ;-))

Marilyn

Chuck,

I was perplexed why it was falling over. It doesn't need support. How are you growing it?

It's a High Country Gardens introduction http://highcountrygardens.com/

it should be find if you're growing it right.

Marilyn

Marilynbeth
I love your gorgous plants ! I am looking forward to a new forum for Agastaches & Salvias and growing some of these beauties !
Now can they be shipped rooted or how ?? for sharing and trading ?

Oh my goodness I went to PlantScouts and there are hundreds of gorgous
Salvias now on my wish list :))

Marilynbeth

Beautiful pictures! I've never grown agastache, but have wanted to for awhile. Are yours from seeds or plants? And if from seeds, how easy or hard to grow, and do they bloom the first year? Also, what's your favorite variety?

Chuck, I think it's fine if you post questions, if it gets good discussions going that helps show the admins that the forum could be sustainable. As far as your Agastaches that are falling over, do you have them in full sun? If they're not getting enough sun they can get leggy. The other possibility is too much nitrogen-containing fertilizer, that could stimulate too much growth in the stems and make them floppy.

Dear ecrane3,

The reason that the agastaches are falling over can be either one of the problems that you mentioned. The plants receive morning sun but not much afternoon sun. Also, when I prepare the beds for planting and in spring, I use a soil additive that is high in nitrogen.

Thanks again,

Chuck

Chuck, I agree with Ecrane regarding them not getting full sun and with too much nitrogen.

Here's the High Country Gardens site that specilizes in Agastaches and Salvias. They have alot of good info and articles. Take a look into it.

http://highcountrygardens.com/

Sorry I wasn't able to write much earlier. It was 5:30 am here when I wrote last (only had 3 hours of sleep) and was trying to get DH off to the Airport for a flight (he's an Airline Pilot).

I get most of my Agastaches from HCG. They have alot of great plants.

Marilyn

Oh, Marilynbeth...you temptress! Those two links both have some agastaches and salvias that I'd like. I don't need any help finding plants to buy.
Sherry

I think Salvias are beautiful, here is a picture of Salvia farinacea, ( blue) and Salvia greggii, ( red)
They are very effective when planted in large groups or drifts and they bloom all Summer.
Josephine.

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