Pls help me and my kittens

Yeah, I like Terra too.

I think she looks like a Pepsi or a Tootsie. :)

LOL...Pepsi and Tootsie would be cute too.

Pepsi's cute, kinda the color of Pepsi-cola.

'Fraid to ask, what happened to the white kitty with only a few spots?

~'spin!~

I thought Pepsi was cute, sort of made me think she was a peppy kitty....

I think one kitten has a new home with Kaleem's sister.

The question is, should they be named before they go to their new homes?

I hoped that was it, melody, -- I thought she would want the white one!

~'spin!~

You could name one Dee and the other Gee! Or Dede and Gigi.
I usually name my cats with two syllables so I can get their attention.
You could also observe them and see what fits their personalities. If one is curious or the other shy or if one does a certain thing.
How do they act when you are around? Do you think they relate to you as a mother since you probably are the only nurturer they have ever known?

Windy, it sounds like someone with a stutter trying to say DG....DeeDee Gigi. I'm up too late, LOL. I love the name DeeGee. You could always call it out and see which kitten claims it as her own!

One could be named Kalee after Kaleem

All the names are very beautiful but I think these are beautiful names "DeeDee and Gigi" , because these are easy to call.

Those kittens are too cute! Expecially that black and white one that seems to love the camera!

Too bad you don't know a vet personally as it is a relatively easy procedure to spay cats and sometimes if you know one, they will just do it for free. Vets do spaying in mass. They take a bunch of cats and tranquilize them and then line them up like a production line to do the procedure. At least that is what I am told by my friend who is a vet.
Here in the states there are places you can take cats that do low cost/no cost spaying. I guess there isn't any such places in Pakistan or overseas.

mvespa
Here in Pakistan people donot have pets like USA, so it is on us to go Vet. hospital for vaccination and bought these first from market and then go to hospital for vaccination. It is very expensive here.

My goodness. I hope that vet was kidding and if not I certainly would not take a cat of mine to him for spaying. Spaying a cat is exactly like perfoming a complete hysterectory. The uterus and overies are removed. I would certainly hope they would do this under general anesthesia and not mearly a tranquilizer. Imagine the pain of having your gut sliced open without anesthesia! Spaying is major surgery, just like a hysterectomy is. It requires pre-op and post-op procedures such as checking the cat for general health and fitness for surgery, weighing her to determine the proper dose for anesthesia, shaving and cleaning the area of the insision, post-op recovery observation, and general post operative care to prevent infection of the wound site. And I would certainly hope, particularly in the case of feral cats, that vet took the time to sterilize his instruments and wash his hands and change gloves before going on to the next cat.

Oh, I re-read the whole thread and I see on 26 October, one kitty went to Kaleem's *brother*, not yet the sister... so I guess the brother took the white one with tabby-spots (I guessed wrong that he would want the dark one and sister the white one).

The first time reading, I thought the kittens were just SPOKEN FOR, missed that the brother took the kitty at that time... I hope he is as good a mother has Kaleem is!

Now I'm guessing that the sister gets the cola-colored kitten and gumlla keeps the pushy little camera ham, what do you think?!!
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Surgical procedures done en masse like an assembly line does NOT necessarily mean that proper medical care is not dispensed -- the veterinarian does not have to do all the steps him- or herself, they have aides (vet-techs) or nurses just like human doctors do. An example that occurs to me is Lasik surgery which my brother had last summer (and my DH two years ago). Talk about a production line! But, they had all necessary care, no infections, and WAY happy with the results. And, thanks to the mass-market aspect, it was more affordable.

Anyway, in Kaleem's region with relatively few cats kept as PETS, I don't think they have so many he will have to worry about an assembly line, more like finding a small animal vet who does the operation at all!
~'spin!~

This message was edited Nov 10, 2004 9:58 AM

"Assembly line" surgery is not automatically a bad thing. Even human heart surgery has assembly line aspects to it.

I didn't mean to imply that efficiency is not a good thing. That is a bit different from performing invasive (i.e. scalpel as oppose to laser or orthroscopic) surgery on a tranquilized but not anesthesized animal, who not only doesn't ask questions but doesn't have a clue what is going on. Nor does it eliminate the critical need to follow strict sanitation procedures to avoid post op infections. It doesn't do much good to spay a feral cat and have it die a week later from a post op infection because the surgeon or one of his assistants past an infection from one patient to all the others on the assembly line. It has been a number of years since I have been a vet tech and I realize many improvements in both technology and efficiency have been made in veternary science, but spaying still does require cutting a cat open and removing a goodly portion of her innards.

Here we have only one way to vaccinate the pets against Rabbies that is Rabbies Vaccination ,inject with injection. No surgery or any thing like this.

I understand gumlla. Those post were talking about spaying the moma cat, and eventually her daughters, so they can not produce any more kittens. Completely different from vaccinations, although a vaccination to prevent pregancy would certainly be helpful :-)

But spaying the moma cat is also impossible here, because this is also new for us, and peoples are not interested in these for their pets.
Now thread become more informative .

Perhaps if a few seeds were planted in various places an idea might grow?

gumlla,

you have done a wonderful job saving those kittens' lives. I'm sure you have made God, their creator, smile with your kindness. Keep up the good work!

Janie Joy

imway2dumb
Try this may be you will have good qulity plants lol.

Janie Joy
Thank you, in this job all the members of DG are also with me.

Gumla, you have been doing a great job with what is available to you there.

In Turkey we have a very big problem with stray cats and dogs. My daughter got scratched by a kitten that she was trying to pet, even though her dad repeatedly told her not to touch any cats or dogs, as rabies are rampart here. She had to go to the hospital and get rabies treatments, It isnt as bad as it used to be here, 30 shots in the stomach, now they are only 6 shots in the arm over the course of 2 weeks. but it is a costly procedure.
It is in our nature to want to pet a cat or dog, especially if they are babies, but we have to hold back
the stray cats are everywhere, they compete with the dogs over the garbage. The dogs hang out in packs and go from neighbourhood to neighbourhood and just growl and terrorize the dogs and cats that do live in the area.
and if you are walking, you surely dont want to get caught up in the midst of a pack, it can be very scary

pebble
Rabbies can affect after nail scratching or biting of cats and dog?

Its transmitted by body fluids. For instance blood and saliva.

oh yeah, she was bitten by the kitten.. you have to watch the kitten for 10 days if it doesnt start foaming at the mouth they are ok, but we didnt want to take the risk and started the shots.

Gumlla, Great Job with the kittens! Please keep us posted with pictures! The little one you have is just adorable.

Kaleem, if you cannot find a Vet to spay her, at least be sure she stays inside all the time she is in heat. You don't want more kittens!

Darius, count me in!
Pati

darius
Very informative material, in Pakistan spaying is impossible. I will disolve birth control pills in their milk. Will this work.

nminmd
Tomorrow I will post new pictures.

Human medications can be very dangerous for animals -- I would not try this, Gumlla.

Oh then what will be the safest way to stop more kittens? Need easiest and cheapest way, because I already payed 40USDs for vaccination.

Become a veterinarian or close friend of a veterinarian? LOL. I don't think there is an easy solution, Kaleem. Especially when it comes to female animals. In this country, livestock growers (sheep, cattle) do the procedure themselves, but only on male animals. (Ouch)! The only thing I can think of is keeping her inside during heat periods. That would require a great deal of diligence and would not be easy. Its my understanding that domestic cats and dogs go through a heat twice a year.

From what I've read, keeping them indoors when in heat is the only way other than surgical sterlization. Males you obviously can't keep from impregnating other cats unless they are never allowed out.

imway2dumb
Yes here this procedure is also very popular for the bith control but only for male animals for bulk quantity of meat. But in female animals.......?

GW
It is very difficlt to control cats, they can go out with out any restriction.

I have a friend that put "diapers" on her little female dog everytime she went into heat. It seemd to work. But a cat could probably get it off - not sure how you could keep on on a cat.

How close are you the Tandojam Charity Animal Hospital?

Mirpurkhas Road,
Tandojam City Dist.
Hyderabad, Sindh, Pakistan

Here's a link: http://www.kathio.com/ - if it's too far to be feasible, perhaps you can contact them for advice on somewhere closer to you?

Tandojam .....other side of the Pakistan, away 20 hours on train. This link is not working for me.