Update from Internet Brands

So, are you planning some sort of mass message to tell people to post to forums that seem hung on the same timestamp? How are you planning on letting everyone know? This seems more beta testing by members, rather than actually fixing things.

Okay, I just bumped my two forums that were stuck in the time-warp and they have now moved to the top of my watched forum list with "correct" updates of time, date and last poster (me).

It will be interesting to see whether these same two forums update now for everyone else.

Those of you with time-warp forums, go ahead and bump them up and let's see if we can fix all these pesky guys.

"Status of Plant Files issues" will not clear from watched threads, despite no new posts.

Eggs - I don't really think of it as Beta testing. It's more like getting involved in the solution which might be really simple.

We all have the time-warp forums right on our home pages. The techs have to replicate what we're seeing before they can try and fix it.

Anyone could have posted at any time in one of these forums and it might have fixed it without us knowing why. This way we might actually be able to fix the problem and know why it's fixed.

I think it's kind of fun. It makes a computer illiterate like me feel a little smarter. :o)

So, how many users making mindless posts, cluttering up forums, do you think it will be? Pick a conservative number. Say, 500? If each person has 3 forums stuck (I think mine is 5), that's 1500 mindless posts, burying the posts that are relevant to the forum they're posting to. Call it what you want, but it is beta testing.

There are less stuck forums then before on my forum watcher. However, most of them have new posts and they still remain stuck. One I can think of is Insect and Pest ID. There has been activity on that forum from the beginning but it remains stuck, at least on my end....

Status of Plantfiles issues has a new post palmbob made one this morning. The forums may show no new posts but there are new posts or new threads if you click on the forum.

I'm computer illiterate but I don't like being a beta tester. I'll leave this stuff up to the people who know what they are doing its frustrating to me, sorry.

Eggs,

I hate to say it, but if you have been here very long (and I know you have) and are still expecting the techs to fix everything perfectly and properly, you might need to rethink that. We should probably just be happy if things even appear to work marginally well. So I went in and made the necessary posts to 'unstick' things from my perspective. If that works and they stay 'unstuck' for a while, that's probably all one can ask at this point. Just my 2 cents.

nuts,

You are very welcome. Yes, I saw your post here and made the necessary post to help you test your hypothesis and fix. I decided not to further clutter that thread with the "you're welcome" post though.

Interesting point, Eggs, but how exactly does your post facilitate de-cluttering? I am checking in now and again to see a status update on repairs but negative commentary, outside of a stated problem, is of no help. Maybe a "Really Peeved" thread is legitamate and should be started. It would be more genuine here than reading it elsewhere.

I've been asking for the restoration of a view count since the original roll out. Why this has taken a back seat to other issues is a mystery to me. Members who actively participate by initiating threads, or regularly participating in ongoing threads, should be able to see if their posts are relevant to others. Release the numbers please!

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I went ahead and just posted to the Rural Gardening thread and it is now at the top of the list of forums I follow/watch. Strangely, earlier the Insect and Spider Identification was way at the bottom sync'ed date/time with Rural Gardening, when it seemed to update properly before that. Is there some date issue yet in there? Here's a screenshot to show this.

Now my only two threads stuck are the "Status of PlantFiles issues" and "Looking for past post re: problem wi freezer on bottom fridg" same from earlier. I have been trying to think what is common between them that they will not go away once visited?

Terry, I forgot to say thank you for explaining how you did not catch the problem earlier. I appreciate that.

The Plant ID forum is now showing as stuck with the current time, and updating on every refresh. This was not the case, even this morning. So, let me get this straight, we're supposed to make a meaningless post each time this happens, in every forum that we see it happen in. That's how DG will work now?

I think I'll go make a big bowl of popcorn, and watch how well this goes over. (=

Eggs - I think that's what we're all trying to figure out. If it works, great. If it doesn't it gives the techs something to work with.

I want the glitches fixed as much as anybody. That's why I figure it's worth doing something as simple as bumping a few threads to see if it fixes one of those glitches. Even if it doesn't fix anything, it only took a few minutes of my time.

But a big bowl of popcorn does sound delicious!

Oh, I wish I had popcorn! (*whine*) Guess I will have to make do with the fudge I made earlier. I think a snack might do us all good about now. (Heading for the kitchen.)

Just cleared
Water Gardening
Welcome Mat
Tropical and Tender

Off to do Computer Talk, Pets, and Jokes as per Joyous.
Plant ID Forum is harder to locate a post rime stamped March 5

Double whine as I have neither popcorn nor fudge Maybe Ben and Jerry's will do.

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coleup,

I freed Computer Talk & Pets earlier this evening. If they are still stuck on your computer, that would be a very bad sign. Oh, and B&J's sounds awesome!

Fudge... Ben & Jerry's... Oooh, I want some!

Coleup - The Plant ID forum does have a post dated March 5. It's in the very first thread, a Sticky.

Melted fudge, poured on popcorn sounds AHH-mazing!

Popcorn, best I can do. The forums that stay stuck pertain to the problem chats of Plantfiles Updates or this thread that needs a new thread now. Or has one been started for Updates and we were left behind on this one??? I will have to check...

Oh Yum! I want some.

So far I don't have any more time-warp forums, but I still have two stuck threads. These same two seem to be sticking on other people's home page as well.

They are "Status of Plant File Issues" and "Looking for past post re: problem with freezer on bottom fridge"

The only way to get rid of them is to unwatch them. The freezer one is one I saved a long time ago mostly out of curiosity. It popped up in the midst of our time travel last week even though the most current post at that time was January 28.

Here is a screen shot:

Those are sticking threads. I thought we were talking about the sticking forums that are at the bottom of your watched forums. They are the ones with the crazy time issue.....sticking threads have been an ongoing problem sticking forums started with this latest down grade.

That's what I asked Terry abt.....I'm so confused..

Edited to add-I misread Nut's post and I hope I didn't make things more confusing...sorry.

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Lisac - you're not confused. You actually are correct. We have been discussing the "time-warp" forums at the bottom of our watched forums.

I only brought up the sticking threads because the same threads seem to be sticking with many people...maybe even everyone.

Coleup - your bumping of the freezer thread made it so I could get rid of it.
Thank You.

I guess only time will tell if it comes back. That thread is a "tough cookie" - It has come back and stuck several times already, even after the recent posts earlier today.

The forums that are stuck at the bottom of my forum watcher all have new posts, even tho it says they don't. This is what I keep saying. So obviously new posts aren't the complete issue. The forums are still stuck even tho there have been very recent activity.

I know this was caused by some rollout...but it seems like for every new thing (whatever this was supposed to accomplish) cause 3x as many glitches. At this rate DG.will never be truly functional. Like was mentioned during the @&$!% this stuff should be tested on a separate platform before its made live. Are we ever going to get to that point?

Edited to add- I googled a plant mentioned on a thead on DG, so much easier then going thru PFs. I found the DG listing and clicked on it but the picture is still distorted. So I went back to google and went to another site to see a pic and read about it. PFs was updated at the end of last summer but the basic functions are still not usable, it seems like that should have been fixed before other stuff was started.

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1lisac Can you please tell me the names of the forums that are stuck on the bottom of your Forum Watcher? That way I can try to clear them like I have a number of others. Thanks

A screenshot would be nice, but a copy and paste or just a list will do.

Southwest Gardening, Ask a Dave's Gardener and Pests and Disease. I posted on one of these forums yesterday but it's still stuck. It doesn't bother me bc I know there may be new posts even if it says there isn't.

Thanks, I'll look into those now. If I am successful, the forum will move off of the bottom.

There are definitely problems on the forum lists, even in those items which do not seem to be 'stuck' and which are thus not getting attention right now. For instance, Daylilies, looks fine until you take a closer look.

Pic 1 below shows the Daylily Forum entry on my Forum 'watching' list. It says the last entry in that forum was on Dec 7, 2015. Pic 2 shows the 1st 2 threads in the Daylily Forum (after the pinned threads) and shows that the the last entry was actually made on Jan 4, 2016. Thus, you can see that there is a problem with the Daylily entry in the Forum 'watching' list even though that is not one of the 'stuck' forums.

My guess is there are likely problems with other entries on the forum 'watching' list, as well. I'm beginning to think Eggs_Zactly was right all along & that our efforts to 'unstick' forums have accomplished little more than cosmetic improvement.

DOS-that was the point I was trying to make....that this is an issue that needs to really be dealt with, not just on the surface. After reading this thread it still seems there is some confusion between Threads and Forums....

On that note I was looking at the test forum, I went to the last page and the last thread is dated 12-10-15. The rest of the threads are from 2006. Maybe this is where the lost threads and posts have been going all along?

Just checked my forum watcher and the 3 I listed above are gone but they have been replaced by 2 different stuck forums. This issue clearly goes deeper then we can fix.

1lisac Pretty please tell us which ones are stuck at the bottom now. Glad your others have moved on and if they revert back to bottom, let us know if you can.
Thanks

Seed trading and Caulidiforms (sp). Both forums already have new posts. Did you see the first post I made this AM?

DreamsOf Spring

Both the Hosta and Retirees Forums have the same anomalies as the Daylily Forum: last post date of Dec 7 but new posts to those same threads beginning again Jan 14/15.

Say, wasn't Dec 7 the date the big kahuna forem design was rolled out?!!!?!!!

I've been unsticking those bottom dwelling forums by seeking out posts dated March 5 as those would be the mass of posts previous;y stamped Nov 30 -0001. Now I guess Dec 7 is also a big clue.
Wonder what this latest fix was supposed to fix?

Now I have 3 stuck forums. Im not going to do this anymore, clearly there is a bigger issue that needs to be actually fixed. Feel like I'm chasing my tail. Good luck everyone.

Alison rose, is there anyway we can get a new thread with current plans for updates? This one has over 400 posts.
We would really like to know what is going on.

I asked Terry for a new thread over on the Feb 3 thread. That was on March 7.