Plant Propagation Basics November continued

What I like about them Lisa is they give me late season blooms, you probably don't have that issue in Texas. Not many things are in bloom October and November here in zone 6a.

I did the same thing a while back. Just before it was time to dump my plants for the winter I took cuttings of some of the Coleuses that I could only get by sending for the plants. Not even seeds. So, I took a lot of starts and had some dracenas, think they were called Moses in a boat or something like that. Stuck them all in a couple of jars to root and the jars were full of roots in no time. I am sure the Moses is in the dracena family. Have them all planted now. I have found that by taking cuttings and starting new plants you have much nicer plants than if you held the mother plant over. Have geraniums the same way only just stuck them in planting mix not in water.

late season blooms are actually scarce here. Chrysanthemums, zinnias, marigolds, sometimes a fall spurt in the azalea department. But late season here is after a scorching summer that burned things up. Fall blue morning glories were glorious though

Gypsi is right, not many late season blooms here. Not only does the heat take it's toll but all it takes is one early freeze to wipe everything out. Many times we get a freeze in late Sept early Oct. and that kills anything that has been planted for fall. I just wanted Gypsi to know that mums could be started from seed, if she wants different types.

Huh, I wouldn't have thought you'd get a freeze the same time we did and I forgot about the scorching summer. I guess you'd have to focus on natives that would go dormant in the heat. That's a bummer but I'd rather your winters than mine.

Robin you would NOT want our winter drivers. The roads were pretty awful today, had a grandchild for a couple of extra hours while her dad tried to get here, so many wrecks.

I cover for the first freeze, or move plants under a porch or shrub, to try to get a couple more weeks of blooms, and the marigolds and morning glories cooperate pretty well but with shorter days, not much else does.

I'm not too picky about species of flowers as long as not poisonous to dogs and as long as they will live and the bees like them. with 3 hungry hives, I try to keep as much in bloom as possible.

I do have 4 colors of geraniums, have seed from my red ones from last year, but not from the other 3. I stuck them all in the greenhouse, as the brown paper bag over wintering system has never worked for me. I would kind of like to learn to propagate a geranium leaf

LOL, you're right, I would not want yours or any other freaked winter drivers that don't know how to drive in foul weather.

I have for now an older red geranium that does seeds ,, I hate winter driving ,



My efforts continued


1 Leaf guide right tube for stem guide left ,
2, 3. it cuts good . it fills and jams in the photo though , (being remedied )
4 a garby table to set it on
5 far away in the trees I'd rather be , lol

Oh, new and improved. Are your leaves wet in jammed photo #3 or were the sticks jamming it?

wet leaves Robin , Putting a wider side opening and a part bottom opening . Then some solidifying the container



Not real pretty , I know , #3 is how it will look , ? maybe

2 and 3 I will probably put a scoop over ,, like the mower where it outs the grass as it cuts Back to plants shortly but , this is all garbage or waste beside the blade and motor ,
paint, tape and glue , I had , cardboard , paper , and can , and little washtub , all leftover . The time it takes me is too long , Thing is , it compares
Around 40 to build this , add another 12 to that I would because I want to spray it with loctite to seal it
I kind of like this one ,, lol

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looks like you are coming right along with that Ju.:)

When you are done messin' with it, will you have enough mulch to keep your plants warm thru the winter?

Jen Almost ,( Who ever has enough compost and mulch ? So far , Cold to us , only not to the plants ,Mustard , Pansy , Kale , all still green here and growing , some blooming ,

I like using Rosemary as a central plant in one of my front porch potted arrangements. You just reminded me I want to save that one over the winter.

It's one of my goals...to always have enough mulch. That goal will only last for as long as I'm able to garden of course.

I just told Joe last night I should sell everything and just move us to an apartment. He just said
" yeal right" .. he dug up the fig yesterday and I had to cut the root system back and pot it up for the winter, he said he wished we could leave it out, but I told him it would die to the ground and start all over and I wouldn't see figs until fall. I like figs in spring. anyway, lost a couple things already due to over water.. I have to remind myself that things don't need as much water inside. :P

oh boy, was going to plant my fig tree on the north side of my house, when I lost last winter's fig tree on the north side of the lot. Come to think of it the ones I see over-wintered around here are in shady south facing alcoves. Off to the Texas gardening thread to confirm.

ya'll have a good day. It finally quit raining here.

Debra! Don't you put peroxide in your water for your inside plants? Had to go back up to see how long you have been on DG. A long time, but not long enough to have gotten all the info they were putting on here about the Hydrogen Peroxide. Wonder if I can go back and get it and maybe bump it up. 2004?? Ya think? Guess I will try. It is such a good subject and perfect to go with this thread. Will let you know if I can. jen

Deb, let me know which plants you lost - I may be able to replace them for you.

I use peroxide in my de-stink dog bath, wouldn't be much of a trick to add it to plant water, hoping you find that thread

Debra , The apartment < if it had a roof door and a flat roof area , Joe could have a daily beer on the roof , instead of working on the roof , and you could sit in the corner of the apartment , with the Bamboo in the corner , and sulk and remember with a smile alll the blooms you use to have ,,
Would that be a "yeah right " lol
Thank you for the support two above ,, it will get there ,

Too far north here and no room to do fig trees ,

Robin ,, I have a rosemary plant sitting on the table outside , out back , My sister had one outdoors for a couple of seasons . About as far north as possible here ,

Jen a few years ago , you and I talked about all kinds of plant waters

Hi Gypsi ,you live in Olive country aren't you ?

I live in the city. I think maybe they grow olives somewhere in the hill country in Texas though

Thought they grew there .lol Thank you ,!!!


Peroxide talk , see if the link works ..


http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/3631/

To see more type in peroxide water in the DG search .

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no, this would be why i have never seen an olive tree in Dallas-Fort Worth http://www.gardenguides.com/93612-growing-olive-trees-texas.html

Gotcha ! Possibility,, all for grasses ,, !/4 of the land surface of the planet Earth ,,, I can grow two or three ,, Barely , lol
Doesn't taste as good as olives , except as cereal and bread ,

I have learned to grow what grows here and give up the rest. Brown turkey figs grow here plenty, but not in my yard, I think I've been putting them in the wrong spot. Peaches grow here. Forget about apples, the only kind that produced on my 5 in 1 apple tree are the granny smith.

Gypsi , all that produced on my 5 in 1 Apple tree were also Granny Smith ,, sounds like a conspiracy to me ,
My 5 in 1 fruit tree only produces giant Red plums now , Peach limbs died after a good season of produce ,

My Nanking cherry only one blooms . still hoping for seeds some season , they are only barely self pollinating .
Waiting to see my Yellow delicious and Jonathan apple trees and a stark brothers special 3 in 1 plum tree , My Japanese Ornamental red plum makes the best fruit of all so far ,My Asian pears this year were the best ,
I am a tree lover , lol

Hey guys, I have a seed pod on my Queen of Sheba. First one ever.

What is a Queen of Sheba Sharon? So, are you going to try to start it? The way you make it sound it sounds like a kind of nut like thing. I finally got the cat grass seeds planted. Hope they germinate. My one cat is housebound, 'cause we won't let her out. She is trying for my house plants and I am sure some of them are poison to her.

BTW Sharon, Do you talk to Dave Walton (think that is his name) on facebook? I see he is on there. I just get snippets from facebook in my email 'cause I don't do anything with it. Most of my sisters do some but I don't even do it for them. I just think it is so strange that people I know are mixed in with my family members who don't have a clue who they are, and the same the other way around. Guess I am too old for this new technology. I do like a lot of it, but cannot take the time to do the rest. That is it. Just don't want to do it.

Well, Bob found a dog he wants to bring home for a pal for Candy. I had to ask him 3 or 4 times how old is this dog. It finally came out 2 1/2 MONTHS!! Yup, another pup in the middle of winter. I told him I would not get another dog until we could put up a fence., Not even around the whole yard. Just a run. But, how do you do that in the frozen ground. How do you train a pup to go out in the frozen snow?

well the seeds that failed for me several times are all on this list of seeds that require cold stratification, so I guess I will be doing some winter sowing in jugs. I have never gotten a borage or a lavender to sprout, not one.

On how you get a puppy to go out in winter: you will need snow boots and a coat, take him out after every meal and when he gets up from his nap.
and train him to nap in a crate. When he goes you go with him, don't let him back in the house until the business is done. They learn the word potty pretty quick.

those apple trees were a rip off Ju - yours from Burgess too? (although mine is over 20 years old and still alive over at my ex's)

ooooooooooooooh you guys aren't buying from Burgess or Michigan Bulb are you? Good grief, you need to read the watchdog on here . Also look for their affiliates. They have a ton of them.

ooooooooooooooh you guys aren't buying from Burgess or Michigan Bulb are you? Good grief, you need to read the watchdog on here . Also look for their affiliates. They have a ton of them.

Burgess has not done too badly, except for the other 4 fruits on that apple tree, but Michigan Bulb is a massive ripoff.

I do not order a huge amount from anywhere, but I do buy a little from Burgess each year, and they have warranted what didn't make it, promptly, and the replacements lived

My dearly departed uncle once dated one of the Burgess girls, if he'd have married her he'd have been rich.

seeds requiring stratification link: http://www.agardenforthehouse.com/2013/02/perennials-which-require-cold-stratification/

A lot has changed with Burgess in the past years. I won't buy from them or their affiliates.

For the seeds that require stratification I just toss them in the fall/winter and they come up in spring. I don't know if that works in all zones but it works in TX.

Lisa, I think in Texas you have a pretty short freezing time don't you? Ours runs for about 3 or 4 months. I suppose it would still work here. After all, stratification is just that. They aren't going to start growing again until it is time, i.e. the ground warms up, and all ice is gone. You have a longer growing season than we do. Now that would be nice unless your growing season is so hot that it is hard on them. There's that too.

I use the refridge in the summer to stratify seeds that I didn't get done in the winter, then I throw them out in the fall into the yard.

Well, Debra, let me ask you, I don't understand, if you use the frig to stratify them, why aren't you throwing them out in the summer? I guess it depends on when you stratify them. In the spring, or/???? But, you only need to stratify them like 6 weeks right? If you did that in the spring, and with your long summer, I would think they would bloom nicely most of the summer??

Jen, David Walton (Pugh Bear) died about a year ago.

The Queen of Sheba is like a trumpet vine. This one is lavender. I am leaving the seed pod on it and letting it mature. Then I will plant a couple and I will send the rest to anyone that wants any. Since this is the first seed pod, I have no idea how long they take to mature. It does not bloom until end of summer. Mid September and blooms on new wood.

Sharon , that is a beautiful vine , it does not grow beyond zone 8 according to info ,
Pretty ,,