Winter 2010-2011: Growing plants under lights indoors! Pt 2

(Becky) in Sebastian, FL(Zone 10a)

Thanks Jackie, Debra, and Helena!

Debra - Did you get any seeds from your blooms? If so ... and ... I get seeds from mine, I would love to do a trade with you! :-)

Jacksonville, AR(Zone 7b)

Debra, Beckys is beautiful. I think it's because it is more pink and less of the orange
My first blooms were always the lovely pink and then as it continued to bloom, it
would flush more orange. I liked that too but preferred the pink. :-)

(Becky) in Sebastian, FL(Zone 10a)

Hmmm ... I wonder if the grow lighting made my bloom look more pink. It was an odd color of orange to my eyes. I have to see if I can find your recent photos of your blooms, Debra ... for comparison. Jackie do you have any photos of yours?

Jacksonville, AR(Zone 7b)

Becky, I'll see if I can find one. Seems like when Iphoto'd it in shade, it always looked more pink

(Debra) Derby, KS(Zone 6a)

Becky as mine bloomed inside the closet, it didn't set seeds, and I kept cutting it back to get cuttings, and now it is a stump, with new leaf buds coming out. I have never had any seeds from this kind of plant. I like the wider softer pink folds on your blooms. Please remember my laptop fried along with the pictures, so any I posted are what I had and can refer too.

(Debra) Derby, KS(Zone 6a)

here is the thread, mine bloomed in the winter time..

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/fp.php?pid=8217684

(Becky) in Sebastian, FL(Zone 10a)

Debra - Your blooms are exactly what I was expecting mine to look like. You are right ... mine has more pink/orange in the blooms and less yellow. Interesting. I didn't have anything to compare it to until I just looked at your photo. Thanks for posting that link!

No seeds, huh? Hmmmm ... well now I am interested to see if I get seeds from mine. I wonder if it is like I. indica where it has to have two different plant genes to create a seed. Like Brugs... Hmmm... did you attempt to hand-pollinate yours?

Jacksonville, AR(Zone 7b)

I looked for over an hour Becky. I had already lost all my pics on my flash drive so I was looking back all the way to 08 threads. Didn't find it yet but will try to look more later.
This one blooms winter, spring and up to early summer for me. It apparantly doesn't
like summer heat.

Jacksonville, AR(Zone 7b)

Debra, your flowers were also lovely. Mine looked very much like your pics.

Garland, TX(Zone 8a)

'Seiun' moved from artificial light to windowsill. It's producing 3/4 inch seed pods – biggest I've seen in a morning glory (so far).

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(Debra) Derby, KS(Zone 6a)

Nifty that is gorgeous! becky I am going to list the different sticto species in a bit.

(Becky) in Sebastian, FL(Zone 10a)

Nick - Nice photo of 'Seiun'.

Debra - Wow! I had no idea there was such variety in the blooms. I really like mine. The color is very dark pink/orange. Though I do like the blooms with yellow throats that extend almost to the edges of the petals. They are all really gorgeous blooms!

The bloom fell off today and the remaining part is all gooey & sticky. I am hoping that it did self-pollinate to produce seeds. Time will tell. I will hand-pollinate every single bloom. I hope to get lots of seeds from this beauty! We'll see.

(Becky) in Sebastian, FL(Zone 10a)

I found this interesting article about this tropical vine:
http://toptropicals.com/html/toptropicals/plant_wk/stictocardia.htm

(Debra) Derby, KS(Zone 6a)

oh yes, I love their site. I ordered my i. plantesis from them three years ago. I hand pollinated every bloom with your brush, becky, but only got dropped buds. good luck you seed producing queen you! ;D

(Becky) in Sebastian, FL(Zone 10a)

Debra - Did you see pollen on your brush when you tried to hand-pollinate the blooms? My bloom had a ton of pollen. It's really weird that the bloom part is now producing all that goo and sticky stuff. I am hoping it pollinated and is transforming to make seeds from that bloom. But then again, maybe not.

Here's a not so good photo of the wilted bloom before it dropped off the plant.

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Norfolk, VA

This year, I plan to do an F2 grow out with a progeny of 50 individuals of (early call pink x early call blue) x large flowered blizzard pink on white NOID. I'm very excited about the funnest part of this experiment, when I get to select some beauties! Almost 4 years of experimentation;-) What y'all saw on the window sill was just a little taste of what's to come. VERY EXCITING!!!

Tony

(Debra) Derby, KS(Zone 6a)

Lots of pollin, Becky.. it just didn't work for me.. I know you can do it..

(Becky) in Sebastian, FL(Zone 10a)

Tony - You go!!!! I do think the crossing is the most fun in growing MGs! At least it is for me! I get excited about the surprises! You just never know what you might get. I've had some pretty interesting recessive genes show up in vines from crosses that I never saw coming! Fun is right! It's a blast! :-)

Debra - Hmmm ... well ya got me really wondering now. You had pollen, too, and did the hand-pollinating to try to get seeds and ... nadda! I wonder what the trick is to get seeds from that vine species? Well, I'm not one to give up easily ... so we'll see what happens with my vine. If nothing else, I'll certainly continue to grow and enjoy it! Thanks for all the information. :-) How's your vine doing by the way? How long did it wind up blooming for?

(Debra) Derby, KS(Zone 6a)

It bloomed for two months, I kept wacking at it trying to get cuttings, which is what it came from I have been informed by the seller I got it from, and it took two years, but I sure did enjoy it. Mine is now a brown woody base, with new leafs and leader sprouts, alot like my plantesis, coming out of dormancy. Three of my east wall moon vine alba blooms aborted before they coupld open. Tonight I saw one unfurling, but it is pointing downwards. The other four bloom buds are up and sideways and which ever way.

Mesilla Park, NM

I really enjoyed looking at all the photos here.

Debra, have you tried airlayering or putting a little baggie with soil and peat moss tied on a node (without cutting the stems off the mother plant), you may get it to root that way. Just make a small nick on it to peel off a little bit of the skin off the stem.

I went crazing buying several moonflower seeds for this year and a gentleman from FLA sent me some fresh pes-carpe and a couple of other seeds, but one of the seeds he sent me was for moonflowers I. alba, but the seeds were black, have either of you guys seen a black seed for I. alba? He said it was white and native to FLA.

(Becky) in Sebastian, FL(Zone 10a)

Antoinette - I have grown both tan and dark seeds for I. alba and both grew into the typical Moonflower vines. So, yes! Moonflower can have either color of seeds!

I never thought about air-layering! Good idea, A! :-)

(Debra) Derby, KS(Zone 6a)

Yes I tried that, havn't seen anything new sprouting under the soil yet, A.
I havn't ever seen any black alba seeds, but that is okay with me. I have found two moon flowers with different names tho. go figure.

Jacksonville, TX(Zone 8a)

The Moon Flower Vine Ipomoea alba seed color is typically a tan/white color. However, it is not unusual to get seeds from I. alba that are a Dark Brown and even a Black color.

The True Black seeded Moon Flower Vine is
Ipomoea alba 'Meekerii'
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/136688/

which is a different cultivar/species from I. alba

More information is here:
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=4078828


Becky,
your Stictocardia is awesome!

Tokyo, Japan(Zone 10a)



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Jacksonville, TX(Zone 8a)

You must explain that one,Jon

(Becky) in Sebastian, FL(Zone 10a)

Emma and everyone - I have heard that Ipomoea alba 'Meekerii' can be quite invasive in the south. Watch that one carefully if you grow it! It produces a ton of seeds and lots of volunteers!

Jon - Do you have seeds for I. alba?

Tokyo, Japan(Zone 10a)



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(Debra) Derby, KS(Zone 6a)

I think I would like to try the The True Black seeded Moon Flower Vine -
Ipomoea alba 'Meekerii' ...

(Debra) Derby, KS(Zone 6a)

My Lobata is budding. I planted some seeds from last summers grow out.

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(Debra) Derby, KS(Zone 6a)

This moonvine on the left already bloomed earlier this winter.. it was very happy and now the clematis, to the right, I planted from seed is looking like it is ready to do something,,,

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(Debra) Derby, KS(Zone 6a)

Today.. erm, yesterday I mailed out some morning glory seeds from my grow outs to a few people.. I have not seen them in this thread or forum, but I was sure happy someone actually wanted something I grew! I have given out about 50 packets of JMGs to some customers at work, and a couple of office managers. I can't wait to see what they get.
Anyway, This SunFlower State needs Morning Glorys of a different kind, so here is hoping I have a new trend going in this area. Japanese Morning Glorys are almost unheard of in the circles of people I am in.
This Moon Vine on the opposite wall, just gets these long beautiful buds, and then they point downward, and then they almost open, but don't. I am wondering if when ever I reach up to turn on the main grow light, I am breaking a stem or something. The I. Lindenheimer is also vining here, along with some Setosa, and a Purple evening Moonvine. No Buds on any of the others as yet.
This photo is of the dividing wall that is on the west end.. giving an pretty full shot of the set up this month.. Only the north west lights and the overhead is on in this photo.

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(Debra) Derby, KS(Zone 6a)

This is my Pink Moon Vine, seed from Emma Last winter, grew to a pretty nice sized Caudex, then it got cold, the whole top end fell off leaves and all, I rubbed a bit of rooting dust on the wounded part, buried it in different potting medium, and here are my new sprouts..It is on the table right under the light in the above photo..

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(Debra) Derby, KS(Zone 6a)

Here are the buds on the East Wall Vine.. They are pointing the wrong way!

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(Debra) Derby, KS(Zone 6a)

There a few more buds on the other side of this vine mess.. They are pointing the Right Way...

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(Debra) Derby, KS(Zone 6a)

This Pink Frost I. Batata is all over the back room corner.. I like it..

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(Debra) Derby, KS(Zone 6a)

I am training this Blackie I. Batata to be a standard form. I should have taken the picture before I turned it. Sorry.. That is a Eupatorium that gets very big and tall it is growing with. They work well together. It is nice to seem them awake and going for the light..

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(Debra) Derby, KS(Zone 6a)

I transplanted the SP. Karrabeck to their own pot.. to give the Oxalis some room to breath. The seeds are from Australia..They didn't seem to mind the move at all..

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(Debra) Derby, KS(Zone 6a)

And , here is the Sticto, poor thing, but it needed to rest.

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szarvas, Hungary

Ipomoea alba 'Meekerii' .
It is a climber but also a runner.
Both types of seeds.

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