Plant Propagation part XIV based on my own experience

Sounds like you are ready for company Sharon.

Have a wonderful day everybody!!

Sharon ~ That was beautiful! Happy Thankgiving to you! Our power came on last night - finally! So we will have Thanksgiving at home. (Also thankful that we do not have to drive anywhere today....black ice on the road down the hill on the shady side of the bridge...) We were considering going out for dinner if we did not have power.

The low was not as cold as predicted...just 25°, not in the teens...Still, cold enough. I woke up to 60° in my room, but I was warm and cozy in my covers. I went downstairs to turn on the furnace. I will get wood later, since Steve is cooking.

OK ~ Well I can say Happy Thanksgiving to all of you and I am thankful to have all of you in my life. Have fun everyone!

IT FREAKEN SNOWED TODAY! THAT WAS NOT PREDICTED. IT MELTED AS IT CAME DOWN BUT I WAS NOT CARING. ALL I KNOW WAS THAT THE AMISH SAY WHEN IT SNOWS FIRST TIME...WHATEVER THE DATE IS....THAT IS HOW MANY SNOWS YOU WILL HAVE THAT WINTER. WELL, 25 IS JUST 25 TOO MANY. i KNOW ONLY 24 MORE TO GO.

LOVE YOU ALL....HOPE YOUR DAY WAS AS NICE AS MINE. HERE ARE MY KIDS AND MY GRANDSON AND MISSY MY GRANDOG. MY STEPSON IS TAKING THE PICTURE.

OK, JB ~ Does that mean that you will get just 6 more snowstorms than we get? Our first snowfall started on Nov 19th. HMMMM....

Oh, yeah! Lovely family photo!

Great picture, JB. I didn't mean to send you snow, I suppose I jinxed everything for every one with my escapade. Love the Scotties. Glad to hear you had a good day, same here. As usual I am so stuffed, no room for the pie. Oh well, there is always tomorrow ::) ttyal, Lee

Lee, that is not a Scottie, that is a Schnauzer. "German Schnauzer". LOL. I have two, Madeline and Jordan. Second set of Schnauzers. They are 12 years old.

Had a great day at Daughter's home for dinner. Started eating at 2:20pm. We were late.

JB, loved your photo. I forgot my camera.

We did not freeze last night but it sounds like we will make it tonight. High today as 47.

All is well and I am not going shopping tomorrow. I am doing some shopping this evening on the net but I am not setting foot out of the neighborhood..

Have a great evening. I am going to relax. Maybe take a nap.
Love you all, Sharon.

OH OH OH my bad.. I knew better too, since my 2 little ones are min schnauzer and Papallion. OH well must have given a few laughs over that one. I will hang my head and beg forgiveness LOL
Lee

My goodness, you are all so lively after the big meal. The Schnauzers are a part of my daughters family always. She has had pictures painted of all her babies. All are gone but one and that little PITA is the one in the picture. She and I are great friends since I am her babysitter and Barney helps. She and Barney get along great. Her one bitch had 9 puppies years ago and we only kept one of them. We never had a litter after that. It was too much. They are so noisey!

I spoke to the neatest woman on the phone from LV today, Sharon. She works for the catalog company Pottery Barn. I just love them. She was so nice and when she told me where she was I said OOOOOH., I have a friend there. Hewer name was Dena and I think she has to be the nicest Customer Service Person I have ever talked to.

We have open today, but the weather is not great. It is damp and chilly and people are shopping for bargains, we did sell a few trees....the first to go was a Charlie Brown at $20, so I hope it lasts until Christmas. LOL. To put up a real tree this soon is just asking for trouble. It is just too early since our summer was so dry.

I made turkey noodle soup today and ham spread so the kids would have a good lunch when they were ready. I have been working since 8 am and am tired. Nothing on TV and weather sucks so I think I may just play on the puter today. I am too tired to be creative. Hugs. JB

LOL, sounds like you guys all had a h *** of a lot to eat. Good wasn't it? My laptop isn't working so am in here messin' around with the router again. A loose wire somewhere. I have just too many connections with the router, monitor, printer, and laptop. Also the thing back there that makes them all run. Can't think of the word.

I hear the guy with the plow out there in the driveway. I hope we don't get a whole lot of snow this year, ha ha, 'cause he costs us $40 every time he does it. We only have about 8 or 10 inches of snow out there and the car can get thru it, but if we let it pile up it gets too much for his plow and last year his equipment got broken so we had to finish the winter without him. Best to do it as it comes down.

I know $40 is a lot but he has to come down about 25 miles from his last customer to get to us and he didn't want to do it but Bob kept uping the price to him 'til he made an offer he couldn't refuse. LOL

One year we got so much snow in just a 2 or 3 week period that we almost paid for the other guy's truck. Not just us, but everyone on his route. Then after he got his truck paid for he quit plowing.

If he gets more people down here then maybe we can get him to drop his price.

Great pictures you guys. Evelyn, your trees look so trimmed etc. Beautiful. Ours are just forest. Right up to my door practically. I am not about to go out and trim them.

Love the doggy pictures JB. And the family. Must have been AFTER dinner. Everyone looks very satisfied.

Speaking of Customer Service People. Normally I order on line so don't talk to many of them, but last year for some reason I had to call the company, Vermont Country Store. Do any of you buy from them? Anyway, I got this fellow, sounded like an older gentleman, and he was so much fun. He kept laughing and saying how he was "multi-tasking" . I guess he meant using the phone, computer, and not sure what else. He was so cute, he was so excited to be multi-tasking. Guess he felt like one of the current generation.

Well, I don't especially like using this computer so will try to get the laptop working. ttyl

Hey guys was gone all day yesterday until late and had 3 movies we had to watch to return today so never got on. Happy belated Thanksgiving all of you my cyber friends.
That picture is so pretty Evelyn. Glad I am not in it though. We have had 24 and 18 in the nights. Record breaking for the nights on both nights. There is predicted a mini ice age I've been told. I don't know if it is for the world, but it is for the Western US at least, from what I hear.
My roses are still blooming away though. A lot of my stuff went suddenly dormant and my Hibiscus is almost leafless. I hurt my shoulder so have not been able to wheel all my compost to warm roots. Will have to figure out something soon. Leaves mostly all fell on T. G though. That helps.
I hope you are all doing well and had a lot of fun with loved ones and or pigging out, watching the Turkey bowl ...

I hope the predictions are wrong Dawn, but we have already had to have the driveway plowed today and storm alerts for the whole area. See snow predicted every day for the next week. And winter doesn't start for another 3 weeks.

Yes, Lee and JB, it is on your way. Sorry. You too Dave. Speaking of Dave, he is due back one of these days isn't he?

Hope you had a nice day to Dawn. You must have netflix. LOL, the 3 movies. Sometimes we hang onto those things for a week or more if we aren't in the mood to watch a certain one. Oh well, some we even send back without watching them.

We got our freeze last night. Coleus are history and Cannas are in need of trimming back and then dividing. The front landscape looks bleak.

Unbelievable is that the Queen of Sheba is standing there like nothing happened and is still in full bloom. Had two bell pepper plants next to each other. One got frozen and the other is fine. Oranges and limes are OK so far. Tonight will be another test and then we are warming up.

Dawn where did you hear about this mini ice age for the West? I am interested in reading about it. That sounds scary.

Did not go shopping and will not be going. Hannah will be back from Hawaii in 3 weeks and then her, her sister Sarah and I will go to lunch. I did order some stocking stuffer items on the net.

Have a great evening. Later friends, Sharon.

Jnette, we cross posted. I cannot tell you the last time I watched a movie. Actually I can. Hannah, Sarah, Esther Mae, my dear old friend, and I went to see Julia and Julia. Do not watch movies at home. Have no idea why. Probably the laptops fault.

Good to see most of you back and healthy. All is good here, but still cold. Although it did get up to 40+ today, but back in the low teens tonight. I hope that ice age thingy waits until after Tues. Later, Lee

Sharon, usually because You both can't agree on the movie. That is why we don't watch certain stuff.

Lee, I sure do hope the storm stays with us instead of moving to you. How is that for a friend? I will just stay in my nice warm house and wish you luck in going to Billings. I have never been to Miles City, but think it might be God forsaken country near the Dakotas? Sorry, don't be offended. I have never been to Billings either. Close.

When we were kids my aunt and uncle had a ranch at Thompson Falls, Montana. We loved it. But it was beautiful country. Not far from the Idaho border.

What a great name for that little dog. He came by it naturally. He is such a doll.

You are soooooo right, God forsaken country about 80 miles from the ND border. Whoever said Montana is flat is a big fat liar. Believe me when I say, it isn't. You just don't notice the hills until they have ice and snow on them. Miles City is a good place to come for the World renowned Bucking Horse Sale in May, but best left behind after that. Usually we just do the hibernate thing during the winter. We go to the store for groceries and that is about it. It does help having a Walmart store so you can actually shop, and spring time they do bring in lots of plants, but I havn't seen much in the way of plants that would make it year after year. That is why I usually am crying and b#$%^&&%over the seeds.
I don't know what I did before finding you guys on DG. I have more friends on here than I have met here in Miles. Course we don;t go anywhere to meet anyone either so guess it isn't their fault, but it is like most small red neck towns, you are an outsider until you have been there for upteen years. OH well, enough of that, talk to all of you later, Lee

No, even after umpteen years doesn't count. You are an outsider unless you were born here. Unless you go to church you do not meet people and they do not accept you. You may be the only person in the area that shops locally but you are still an outsider. Maybe that is what shows that you are.

The people born here do not shop from the local stores. That might be the difference. They will drive a hundred miles to shop at Costco instead of being seen going into the local grocery store.

I was waiting for Bob while back near the cash register and every person that went thru in that time, I suppose a half a dozen, signed the receipt. Maybe that is the difference. If you are in the local stores you must be on welfare. I never thought about that. But, we were the only ones that paid for our groceries. I have noticed that before even at the hardware store. We are the only ones that pay cash.

That is funny. I am going to have to run that by Bob. You mean it took me 16 years of living here to figure that out? Guess we better stop supporting our local stores. LOL Boy I am a slow learner.

Isn't that sad? Bob and I often talked about why the people didn't buy from these small stores. We only have a hardware store, a grocery store, a feed/health food store, a video rental and 2 small restaurants. The people I have talked to say their prices are too high. That's their excuse. Time and gas that it takes to drive a hundred miles to Spokane don't count. I can see the once or twice a month buy from Costco, but what about the small stuff in between? Nope, you don't see them in the local store.

They do go into one of the restaurants. They swarm in there but those are not local owners. Maybe it just seems like they swarm in there since it is so small and 5 or 6 cars make it seem busy.

Anybody got any thoughts on this?

Hi Everyone!
I did fall over the edge of the earth for a while, but I have managed to hold on by my fingernails. I hope all are well. I have been doing very little gardening, need to work more than play these days, but I was in the green house today and 5 of my christmas cacti are blooming. I just love those. My sasanquas and 1 camellia japonica are in full bloom and gorgeous this year. I thought after such a dry spring and summer, we wouldn't have many flowers, but it is a gorgeous surprise and I am thankful. Hope everyone had a wonderful holiday. We are well, for the most part.
It is turning cool today. Our temperatures have remained in the 70's during the day and 50's at night, so it has been heavenly. Today it began dropping after lunch and it may well slip into the 30's tonight. I would do a happy dance if it would rain though.
I am making a long list for winter sowing. I haven't ever done it intentionally so this year i decided to give it a try.
I have taken a few cuttings and slipped them in the soil. Maybe they will root slowly over the winter. ( mostly azaleas and beautyberry).

Have a great saturday.
Linda

Hey Linda, good to know you are still with us. I am too tired now, but tomorrow I will send you pictures of my new Christmas Flame and White Christmas Cactus. They are small plants but just blooming. They wil go into o6 inch pots when they are done blooming.

Lee, how do you make a living in MT other than breeding horses and farming? I am really poor when it comes to knowing much about some of our NW states and why people live there. Washington and Oregon I understand, but the Dekotas and MT just leave me cold. That was a poor choice of words.

We sold trees today, but it was in the 40's and very windy, with gusts up to 35 MPH. We had hot chocolate and brownies for the kids and coffee for the adults. So everyone was happy.

I am really tired, so I am out of here. I am eating a baked sweet potato and some turkey noodle soup tonight........some salad later maybe, I just want to sit down and relax. Nite.

Hi Linda!! Nice to hear from you. How are you feeling now? I would think this time of year your asthma would not be too bad?

JB, you have to post the pictures on here so we all can see them. I really do like the Cacti. My mom had one that was almost 3 feet across. She had it in her sewing room where she kept the door closed most of the time and it was cool. The plant must have really liked that 'cause it bloomed most of the time. It also got a lot of light. It was in a big clay pot and was so heavy.

Actually Montana, parts of it are very beautiful. There is nothing wrong with farming. My uncle had a thousand acre ranch and he did ok using grandkids to do the work. LOL. But he raised cattle and grew enough hay to feed them, sold timber. I say beautiful but I have never seen much of the state other than the Northwest area and lakes, rivers, and streams of course. There is wonderful fishing in Montana.

JB ~ It's sound like you had quite a busy day. Even too busy to realize how cold you were. It has not been over 40° here today either and windy, rainy and then snowy, again! There are branches all over and leaves, soggy leaves, where the snow melted. It looks nice when it first snows, and then it looks messy and dirty, and nothing will be done about it until warmer weather....at least dry weather. I brought in wood today, after cleaning and doing laundry, as Steve went to town today. I am trying to be caught up with anything requiring electricity as there is always a chance of losing it again in the next snowstorm.

If it is nice on Monday, we will go out and see the Harry Potter movie. We read all the books and have seen all the movies so far. We do not go out often. Monday is Steve's birthday so we are going to celebrate both birthdays, weather permitting, with lunch and a movie. We still have not seen the Netflix movie sitting around. I used to get 3 at a time, and now I changed it to one at a time, the least expensive plan, since we don't watch them a lot.

Linda ~ It is good that you are having nice weather now. I hope it continues for you. It must be nice to have a greenhouse. I hope you have lots of goodies growing in there. Have you started anything from seed lately? Or do you just grow tropical plants by cuttings? I am glad that you have strong fingernails...LOL!! Welcome back!

Jeanette ~ Even though Steve was a postmaster here for many years, we are not part of the social fabric of the community since we do not attend church. I gave up my volunteer activities, Master Gardeners and Womens Center quite some time ago, but am looking to become involved in a food bank and/or soup kitchen, as there are so many people doing without these days. Thanksgiving is every day for me as I think each night about those in Haiti, and around the world and in our own community that do not have the priviledge of a nice hot bath and clean bed and warm home, with someone I love. (I don't care too much about what others think of me anymore.) I just live my life the best way I can each day. I really appreciate all of you here, as I really don't talk a lot to people that live here. I do have a couple of neighbors that I see from time to time, but not on a regular basis. Are you doing anything with your cloner these days??

Lee ~ I have been to Missoula, Hamilton and others in the general area, but never to Miles City. Yes parts of Montana is flat. Where my SIL lives, near Missoula. The name of your state says it all though. Just like some people think that all of CA is warm and sunny all year. Well, it is for most of the time in Southern CA...but when I was there last month, it was raining the whole time along the coast, so after Santa Monica, we went through Topanga Canyon and drove inland where it was warmer for the rest of the trip. It was a nice trip, even with the rain and clouds along the coast. It was mild, not really cold at all. I know what you mean by hibernating. I clean the house, sort my seeds for a seed exchange, and when the snow goes away, I will get my two computers fixed. The desktop will not dial up, and the laptop's card reader does not read anymore. I have to wait until I am sure the power will not go out, as I need to use the other phone line, using the portable phone, which requires power to get on the phone with HP. So I will get that one fixed since I still have connectivity with the laptop. Then when I get that one back and if it is working fine, I will send in the laptop. GRRR!!! No more HP for me... Are you getting your puppy on Tuesday? Will you be going with your husband?

Sharon ~ How is your weather now? Is it raining yet? Jeanette sent me her storm...she likes to share! She is tired of the cold weather already, and to be honest, I am as well. It just started too early. Where is "Indian Summer"?? It seems like winter is here already and I am not quite ready for it. Thanks for the invite, but I think you need a rest now and time for both you and Vern to heal.

Dawn ~ Is it still cold in Rosamund? Is that near Pacoima? I have never been there. I think it would be good to explore the whole of California, as there are still places that I have never been.

Where is Dave?

Gotta' go now. Have fun everyone! (As much as you can, anyway...)

~ Evelyn

Yes, it is still snowing. We must have about a foot out here now. It has warmed up so the snow is getting heavy. Think it is in the high 20s now. But, I am sure the snow will not melt until March at the earliest.

I will attach a couple of pictures I took. One is of the snow on the living room deck but I took it a couple of days ago and it has been snowing ever since. The other is one of the pies my sister's 12 year old granddaughter made for Thanksgiving. She made 3 pies, pumpkin, cherry, and pecan. They were all beautiful, but this one it is kind of hard to see, but she put small leaves of the pie crust all over the lattice work on the cherry pie. I told her she would have gotten a blue ribbon at the county fair.

Gotta run, here they are.

Here's the snow.

Well, we had a good freeze last night. Orange cherry tomato is gone.. Orange and lime trees and fruit are OK. Queen of Sheba did not freeze and is still blooming. Plenty of plants to pull or cut back. I need to do that before Thursday and Friday. The landscapers will be here and they will pull the wrong things.

Suppose to have rain tonight. Maybe light snow tomorrow. Looks like freezing temperatures are gone. Last year it was 4 nights. This year 2 nights, so far.

OMG, another football game. Our neighbors left yesterday by plane to go to the USC/Notre Dame football game. I am watching the cat.

Did not do Black Friday. Do not need anything. Actually I need to get rid of "stuff". I have joined a couple of threads on the clean & clutter forum. A bunch of individuals our age with way to much "stuff" and clutter. I now have the laundry room, dining room table and our Master Bath de-cluttered. Actually the kitchen is de-cluttered to the naked eye but have some junk drawers to finish cleaning. Pantry is 1/2 done. BUT, there is still the garage. Actually down stairs guest room is totally clean except for photos that need to be placed in frames. Both items are under the bed and on the floor next to hutch.

I was raised in a small town. When I was there there was a drug store, two grocery stores and a couple hardware stores. About 8 bars. About 10 years ago Costco opened in St. George, Utah about 87 miles away. Then everyone started driving there to get their groceries and hardware. One by one all the stores closed,. The grocery store was the last. Now there are two gas stations. One has fresh milk and some everyday items. They were angry because the grocery store closed. I told my brother it was their fault. Now there is two bars left. Only about 400 people left in town. I have not been back since mother's memorial and probably will not go back.

Linda, your weather sounds great. Jnette, my asthma is worse this time of year than in the spring or summer.

I think we all have the same problem. I have two dear friends. One is 88 and the other is my age. They are both ill. Esther Mae, 88, has Parkinson and Laura has very bad arthritis and osteoporosis. Laura, 68, used to be 5'10". She is now 4'9". She weights right at 100 lbs. She is kind of like Jnette. Bionic woman. Most bone parts have been replaced. Laura and Esther Mae were two of my first clients as a young loan officer. Both were top Realtors and we did business for over 30+ years. Laura and I did things, when we were in our twenties, that if we told you, we would have to kill you.

I need to go get a bowl of 13 bean soup I made today. I will return.

Jnette, we cross posted. Your 12 year old grand daughter is amazing. I cannot bake a pie. I did not and do not like pie, except Pumpkin, so I never learned how to make them.

I am so thankful I have my friends on this thread. I have many acquaintances but very few friends. And the majority of my neighbors would not get their nails dirty to garden.

Funny thing, but I lost some friends when I quit drinking. Then I lost some friends when we made it through the recession because we saved money. They did not and we did no offer them any money. The reason being is they made the same money as I did and I told them numerous times to save their money but they went to Europe, bought new cars and just spent everything they made. I told them my family was my first concern but so far have been OK there.

Because they also saved money and did not over extend themselves. I asked them how they learned so much because I really did not set them down for a lecture. They looked at each other and said, "Mom, we heard you on the phone every night talking to borrowers about what they needed to do to buy a home. We probably have a Master's degree in Finance just from overhearing you". Good thing I was talking financing.

Dave should be back tomorrow. He was delivering Christmas presents to grandchildren.

Have a great evening. Come on over to Clean & de-clutter. (I think). It is fun.

JB, is your appointment Monday? I have an appointment Monday for my skin cancer check up. I just have the whole body looked over to find any thing suspicious. So far have not found anything but I have been in the sun my whole life, so better to be safe than sorry. Love you all, Sharon.

The forum is Clean and Clutter Free.

Evelyn--Believe me when I say Montana is not flat!!!!! Especially when there is snow and ice on the roads. Not like mountain roads, but the hills and dales and coolies, and draws are very predominate when you are traveling in the winter. Not as noticable in the summer, seems pretty flat then. I will only be going to get Storm if the road reports are clear. I have a friend who will travel with DH if they aren't. I just can't help it, my fear is pretty bad.
JB we are retired so don't have to worry about making a living here, just go from the SS month to month. Mostly they farm, ranch or work in the oil fields. Miles City is a 8500 population, with very little commerce out of the norm. I think most of the people who live here are retired farmers, ranchers, or those who have grown up and married here. I don't think there are many outsiders. As I said, it is a little red neck town with not much going for it. High point of the year is the Bucking Horse Sale. People come from all over to attend everything that weekend. I think most of the businesses here rely on that time to make their yearly money. The rest of the time it is pretty sleepy.
Lee

So then Lee, why would you decide to retire in such a "Cold" place?

Thanks for the welcome back everyone.
Jnette. The asthma is much better, Still having the spinal issues, but I can breathe and I am learning to work a few minutes and then rest a bit. I hate that part. I have taken to paying my son and his friends to plant the seedlings in the yard. ( movie money for friday gets aI teenager real motivated. LOL),
Evelyn, I am loving my greenhouse. It used to be my aviary and I truly do miss the birds, but as I said, the asthma is so much better that I can't imagine going back to that. I spent 3 days at my mom's this week and her 4 birds took a toll on me. Last fall the greenhouse was jam packed full, but this year I have planted more in place and I am not overwintering as much.

The plants that I have going now are the things that I know would freeze. Mostly tropical vines or just not hardy for my zone. I haven't started any seeds lately, but I am planning to change that next week. I am getting set up to start trays of things that don't have to be pampered. We haven't had a frost yet, so I am still planning to cut and root my passiflora vines and a few other things. I bought some sphagnum moss to try wrapping cuttings in plastic and rolling them up like a jelly roll.

Sharon, I stumbled across the clean and clutter free forum earlier today. I loved it! I have been telling hubby that I feel the urge to purge lately. I just get to the point that I cannot stand the clutter.
I gave my grandmas china cabinet to my neice a couple of months ago and hubby promised to build the pantry we've been planning for a long time... but today I found myself packing all of the former china cabinet inhabitants into boxes to be stashed in any empty spot (that doesn't include my dinner table) available. Hopefully soon we will get motivated to build the pantry. Hubby has no clue of the honey do list I am maintaining and adding to these days. LOL

Gotta run, Carolina's beating Clemson, I am tired and think I will nap a little bit.
Have a great day everyone.
Linda

I have a handy man that was a custom home builder before the crash in the housing bubble. He came over about a year ago and I introduced him to my husband. As the handy man was standing there, Vern asked me why he was there. I said, "It is a present for you honey. He is going to do your honey do list". Then Vern said, I can do that and I said, yes I know you can but "Wayne" needs the work and you are busy. Then I got the big grin from Vern as he walked away shaking his head yes....LOL.

Here is a Thanksgiving Cactus called Zygocactus x white christmas

Here is another Thanksgiving cactus called Zygocactus x Xmas Flame

JB, Those are beautiful! I don't know the names of any of mine anymore. I had bought a tangerine colored cactus and an Easter Cactus and several others, but the survivors are the ones I have had for years probably from walmart or the grocery store. I will post pictures later. They are still gorgeous.

Hope everyone has a wonderful day.
Linda

If you look up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holiday-Cactus you can see the different varieties and which ones are Christmas, Thanksgiving and Easter. Very interesting.

The mini ice age thing is something a disabled guy who studies weather like a savant told me. He has been following some meterologist in San Diego and what they say. Some guy told me the same thing about 2 years ago though. He said some customer at his surgery said that he worked at NASA for many years studying this weather stuff and that a mini ice age was due in the next two years.

I just told Greg I could not move to Utah for the same reason as Jeanette stated. I am way to social to be the leper of the colony. Greg used to live there and thought it was pretty. He drank then and does not now, so maybe he would not like it either now. He still had drinking friends even though he was not Mormon.

Ibartoo Rosamond is where Edward's Air Force Base is, where the shuttle lands in CA. It is 45 min. from Pacoima due North.

Dawn ~ If we have snow in November, and and had some until the middle of May, I would already consider it a "Mini" ice age! LOL...

OK guys, dave started us on a new thead. :)

I don't see it.

Dawn, it is the one with the yellow Forsythia bush on it in the list of ones you are watching, or in the list of propagation forums.