Tropical Garden # 84

noonamah, Australia

Ardesia, it's true, people often overlook what's in their own back yard. In fact Hawaii only has 3 native orchids, and again because they're not real showy or attractive no one notices them and only looks to the imported exotic ones. You'll probably find most US states have more native orchids than Hawaii. I didn't realise you had Habenaria there as well, we have several species of them. I've always thought of your area as being more of a Slipper Orchid 'heaven'.

DeLand/Deleon Spring, FL(Zone 8b)

Salvia "Splash" I think is really Salvia "Dancing Flames" I had it but lost it last winter when I forgot to take cuttings before we froze. Thank You Debra, cause I could not find it again this year, and seeds MOST likely will not come true from this.
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/159377/

Debra, Orchids are really not that hard, most people end up overwatering them...We grow ours in Lava rock/charcoal mix, I generally mist mine more than "water" them.

I'm trying to root Rose of Sharon Variegated "Sugar Tips" that were sent to me now...boy do they take a long time, silly things have new growth on them but just a few roots.

Prita - I like that Cleredendrum too, do you grow it in a pot ? I grow my Bleeding Hearts in the Ground, and sometimes have to pull up a few "travelers"...or we just mow them down as it's on a fence line that get's mowed frequently. The Cashmere Bouquet and Pagoda Flower are also in spots where they get mowed if they get out of hand, it's funny tho they will come back and be these tiny very fat plantlets. If anyone ever wants some let me know I'll dig some up for you. Not too many now though since it's been soooooo dry.

Doritaenopsis Taida Salu - Blooming last winter

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DeLand/Deleon Spring, FL(Zone 8b)

Finally got a pic of Milk N Honey....
and the Iochroma has a fat cluster of buds on it.........yeah !!!

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Blackshear, GA

Beautiful MJ

Red Oak, TX

Hello All!!
It is supposed to get down to 39 degrees tonight, are your plants all warm and tucked in for the night?
I spent some time researching those orchids that ardesia mentioned and found that I have tried Bletilla striata several times without any luck. The E. Radicans will come back every year, but blooms sparingly. I would love to get a few Lady Slippers, they are very pretty.

mjsponies, I have the Clerodendron Indicum planted in the ground, protected by the hoop house. I have the others you mentioned planted in pots, it is a shame that you have to mow them down. I bought mine from the marketplace a while ago.
Your blooms are perfect but the weirdo that I am, I am drooling after the sweet pile of sand in the background. lol


One bloom on Golden Brush ginger.

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Red Oak, TX

GAGirl1066, I would love to trade for a nodding Clerodendron. I am sure I can get you a start of the Indicum. I will check tomorrow to see if I have one growing already. No hurry on the hibiscus.

Joeswife, thanks, your new spray concoction sounds promising, I have used dish soap with a little bleach before. I planted my two mud seed balls today.
I have a white moon vine, I will mark the spot to see if it will come back next spring. I was excited about the lavender though, you don't see that one too often.

Costus Lateriflorus.

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Rita, I am glad the passiflora vines are doing well for you and I would have to give my blue sky vine a 'D' as was well for blooms. Since you mentioned you would like to have a Lady Slipper Orchid, I will go to my parents home place this Spring and see if I can locate the one that use to be abundant there. It's a pink bloomer.

mjs, very nice bloom on your Milk N Honey and I would be interested in a cashmere bouquet and maybe a pagoda plant as well but you will have to let me pay you for them.

New Anthurium, thanks to Steve Lucas who was kind enough to share it with me.

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Nice Orchid pictures Dave.

Debra, I can vouch for the Phalaenopsis being easy to grow. I had 3 for several years and they were seldom with out blooms but I gave them away last year to a friend who likes Orchids better than I.

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DeLand/Deleon Spring, FL(Zone 8b)

LoL Rita, that's a big pile of Mulch ! Actually about 1/2 as big as it was. I do need to get a small load of topsoil, but have held off on building any new beds...we got a "trace" of rain today...well over a month now, and temps have been in the upper 80's,low 90's....errrrr. I compost most of the horsey poo, add grass, leaves, coffee grounds, etc. but it's not fast enough or enough volume. One day I'll get pics of the whole "yard".
I do dig up alot of the Cleredendroms and sell/trade/give away. My neighbors don't want anymore tho !
Rachel.....I'm pretty sure we can find something to trade, if not I'll just send them to you.
Gagirl, the White Bleeding Heart is starting to bloom, I'm so excited about that !

Sky Vine - still growing strong, I'm grateful this one is so easy care...It's on my arena fence.

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mjs, I am planning on being near you (St. Augustine) in the next week or two. I have a plant to tote along with me just for you. I will let you know when I have a definite schedule to be there. I've been missing Florida ;-)

Keaau, HI

The three endemic Orchids of Hawai'i are:

Anoectochilus sandvicensis, Hawaiian Jewel Orchid

http://www.botany.hawaii.edu/faculty/carr/images/ano_san.jpg

http://www.arkive.org/hawaiian-jewel-orchid/anoectochilus-sandvicensis/image-G62121.html

Liparis hawaiensis, Hawaiian Twayblade

http://www.botany.hawaii.edu/faculty/carr/images/lip_haw_7297.jpg

http://www.hear.org/starr/images/species/?q=liparis+hawaiensis&o=plants

Platanthera holochila, Hawaiian Fringed Orchid
syn. Habenaria holochila

http://botany.si.edu/pacificislandbiodiversity/hawaiianflora/result.cfm?genus=Platanthera&species=holochila&rank1=&epithet1=

http://hawaii.gov/dlnr/dofaw/nars/reserves/platanthera%20holochila.jpg/view

The Fringed Orchid is very rare. None of the plants do well as garden plants. All of them need pristine habitats to survive.

(Debra) Derby, KS(Zone 6a)

Pristine meaning no wind, no hail , no snow, no interruptions? That is my basement, in the winter time..Right?
Rita, if your moon vines ( lavender) came up, keep them protected while cold, they will go dormant. I have three vines going now, they bloomed outside, but I cut them back, now they are getting new growths. I came home from a very hard day at work to a nice box of things from my want list...

variegated pink bower vine..

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(Debra) Derby, KS(Zone 6a)

Frydek and night blooming cerus plant. Persian shield plant. All rooted, nice and healthy, what fun I had.. Thanks Lin!

okay, the garage is full of the late comers.. hoping to give these things away. getting down to 37 tonight.. brrr! We do not have the furnace on, I am in a jacket as I type.. LOL
Milk N Honey has a nice honey colourd stripe on her corolla.. ( look at the words I have learned since being on DG)

here is a nice dark peachy yellow Cassies Curls, from a stick from Bonnie..That woman can grow some brug trees let me tell ya..
sending out the salvias, ladies, this coming Monday.

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(Debra) Derby, KS(Zone 6a)

I love to see dead bugs.. and that is what I found down there in the jessimine tonight. Hoo Ray!

Rangoon Creepr is now next to chalice vine, moonvine, black eyed susan vine, and soon, the pink bower vine will join the vine table..
Hibiscus are still blooming, and so far not too bad on dropped leaves.

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Keaau, HI

Hey Rachel! How are you?

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(Debra) Derby, KS(Zone 6a)

I went to a home owned feed n seed place today at lunch, was going to get some varigated trailing pepperomia and some varigated trailing red daisey ice plant, but they had white flys all over their plants, so I said.." Uhmm.. never mind.." That is the last thing I want to bring home here..They also had some nice "lacy leaf" caladiums and some nice EEs, but still at full price, free whiteflies. dang.

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(Debra) Derby, KS(Zone 6a)

Those orchids are so pretty.. So is the blue sky vine.




Flamenco tonight

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Keaau, HI

Wish I could grow those Brugs; it's a bit wet here for them.

Here is a ripe Giant Granadilla. Unlike other Passionfruit, the rind is edible and is eaten like a melon.

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(Debra) Derby, KS(Zone 6a)

Dave, I have tried and tried to grow those from seeds.. Now, maybe I don't do it right, or maybe I do.. somehow I have two passion vines on the patio I don't remember having, and I am hoping its fremonts clematis instead, but it sure looks like passion vine.. Maybe those seeds came up after all, when I wasn't looking?

Stictocardia Brevenis has buds..Can you see them? Now here is hoping chalice vine will follow suit.

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Keaau, HI

Hi Debra,

The stems of Giant Granadilla, Passiflora quadrangularis are square and the leaves are oval.

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noonamah, Australia

On the subject of native orchids, I've found 5 growing naturally on my place. There's about another dozen growing in the area, a lot of which I've found close to my place but not on it so far.

Malaxis marsupichila is my most recent find.

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noonamah, Australia

A Habenaria sp I had identified previously but can't remember just now. I suspect there's also another Habenaria sp. on my place but need to check it out.

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noonamah, Australia

Geodorum neocaledonicum which is so common sometimes it's referred to as "Weed Orchid".

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noonamah, Australia

Some of those growing in the "wrong place" around my garden or driveways I've moved into a garden bed of their own.

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noonamah, Australia

Nervilia holochila grows in large colonies, I've got a large and a small colony on my place where they frequently get inundated during the wet season.

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noonamah, Australia

Dendrobium affine is another common one. I've put some of my wild plants in the garden as well (on trees that is, it's an epiphyte).

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noonamah, Australia

Dendrobium affine growing naturally on a naturally growing cycad (Cycas armstrongii) on my place.

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(Debra) Derby, KS(Zone 6a)

gosh, those are too cool.... I know we have a native orchid here, I have to go to the native plant site to find it..
the stems and leaves on that GG looks like my ruby glow.. oh! I almost forgot it is still outside.. Bad Me! guess that will come in this weekend.. *sigh*

I am doing well Dave and I hope you are as well.

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Native orchid from my part of the world.

Goodyera pubescens.

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(Debra) Derby, KS(Zone 6a)

Really cool, Rachel... who is the plant in the post above your native orchid?

noonamah, Australia

Debra, the dark leaf in Rachel's photo looks like a Philodendron sp., the leaves on the left look like a Urospatha sp.

Rachel, aren't some of the Goodyera sps orchids called 'Jewel Orchids'?

For another project I was checking the number of local native orchids we have in our area. The current number is 40 species in 21 genera. Of course that's miniscule compared to the total number for the whole of the country, about 1400 species in 192 genera. But of our 40 I've only found 5 species growing naturally on my place. I have brought in some other natives. Photo is of Dockrillia bowmannii. The list below is of the 40 local natives.

Arthrochilus latipes
Calochilus caeruleus
Calochilus holtzei
Chiloschista phyllorhiza
Cymbidium canaliculatum
Dendrobium affine
Dendrobium canaliculatum
Dendrobium lobbii
Dendrobium trilamellatum
Dipodium stenocheilum
Didymoplexis pallens
Eulophia bicallosa
Eulophia graminea
Geodorum neocaledonicum
Habenaria elongata
Habenaria ferdinandi
Habenaria halata
Habenaria hymenophylla
Habenaria mesophylla
Habenaria ochroleuca
Habenaria rumphii
Habenaria sp. Sand flats (undescribed)
Habenaria triplonema
Malaxis acuminata
Malaxis latifolia
Malaxis marsupichila
Nervilia aragoana
Nervilia holochila
Nervilia peltata
Nervilia plicata
Nervilia sp. Cordata (undescribed)
Nervilia uniflora
Pachystoma pubescens
Phaius terrestre
Phoringopsis byrnesii
Phoringopsis sp. Bradshaw Station (undescribed)
Spathoglottis paulinae
Thrixspermum congestum
Tropidia curculigoides
Zeuxine oblonga

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noonamah, Australia

I scattered a lot of Dipodium stenocheilum seeds from last season in a part of my garden. Hoping for seedlings this wet season. It's a tricky one to grow as it's a saprophyte. But it grows all around my place so the right fungus should be here.

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noonamah, Australia

What's that old saying, "Hope springs eternal"?

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noonamah, Australia

Found the photo of the 'other' Habenaria I mentioned before. It looks like Habenaria ochroleuca, and different from the photo in Post #8182500 above (which I suspect may be H. elongata). So, maybe out of our 40 species I've got 6 occuring naturally on my place.

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Blackshear, GA

Rachel,
That does look like one of the jewel orchids and you have them growing wild? How cool!

Tropic,
Where is noonamah located? Several years ago I went to NZ and then to Melbourne. LOVE your country. I wanted so bad to see the Gr Bar reef and Ayers rock but time would not allow. I definately have plans to go back, and would love to know where the 'tropical' part is?

(Debra) Derby, KS(Zone 6a)

Tropic, the Dipo steno is very fragile and beautiful looking.. are you saying it needs lots of water and fungus to grow ? WOW, you have alot of orchids listed there..

DeLand/Deleon Spring, FL(Zone 8b)

Rachel,
How cool you'll be in St. Augustine ! Yes let me know when ( as far in advance as possible LOL !)
Ok...I may have to take a trek out into the woods, looking for more natives to bring up into the yard. But there's BEARS out there ! And it's hunting season. We have the Air Plants all over the tree's here. They fall out of the tree's all the time

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DeLand/Deleon Spring, FL(Zone 8b)

This is " Leafless Beaked Ladie's Tresses " Spiranthes lanceolata Ground Orchid, they pop up out of the ground with the bloom stalk, then get the leaves after the bloom dies off.
I found these out in the pasture last year, and brought them up into the yard.

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noonamah, Australia

GAgirl, the northern one third of the country is in the tropics. That's also where the Great Barrier Reef is, about 2000 kilometres long along the east coast.

If you've got Google Earth, just do a find on Noonamah Australia and it will take you there (cyber trip only unfortunately). It's about 50 kilometres south of Darwin.

Debra, the Dipodium, being a saprophyte doesn't photosynthesise. It relies on specific fungus to supply it with 'food". If you don't have that fungus, or if that fungus itself isn't fed properly, the Dipodium will die. Otherwise, it can take occasional floods, direct sun, etc., and still thrive. The critical thing is the fungus.

Another non-local native I've brought in to my place, Dendrobium discolor.

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