Oriental reds?

Hi everyone! I figured I'd ask my question of you experts. What are your favorite reds? Are there any orientals that are really red?

I got my FF catalog yesterday, and the first Oriental red I saw was Dynamite. I've got several of those and they are more deep pink than red. Beautiful - but not a real red. I had to move them to a spot where the deep pink worked better.

They have Mambo and Tarrango in the catalog, but there are no pictures in PF. Red Alert is a Longiflorum Asiatic, but the PF picture looks good and red.

I know Orientals aren't supposed to last as long as some of the others, but I sure like them best. Will any of you weigh in and tell me what you think? Thanks!

Maybe you would like the depth of dark red that is 'Dark Sensation', or 'Sumatra'. Mambo is a a completely different reddish than those and is more red, but I find horrible to capture on a photo. For a real, true red, I'm not sure the oriental will do it for you. But it seems like those I listed above with their depth of color will get you closer than a pink to dark pink because I would not call any of them pinks.

And if you want a really wonderful red with excellent flower form (in my opinion, of course ;) ) 'Hiawatha' is just stunning, if you don't have it already.

Enjoy shopping for your garden McGlory!

Only red I have is asiatic noid.The rest of the garden is pinks ,lavanders white,yellow,peach.
Good luck with your hunt.
Have you tried B&D lilies?

I knew this was the place to come for some enabling! LOL I wasn't thinking that I already have Arabian Red, which is a pretty good Oriental red. It's just in a different garden, and heaven forbid I have the same thing in two different places! What's the point of shopping if you're just going to buy the same thing? Ha ha!

Sumatra is ringing a bell. Either I've looked at it, or I got it and forgot, which isn't likely. I don't think I have it though. I am definitely going to try Hiawatha. And I may go ahead and try Mambo and Tarango too just to say I did. Know what I mean? And now ge is sending me off to another place. Shall I let you know how much I spend? Oh dear!

I looked at Orientals on B&D just now to make sure its not a fools errand.
Not too many reds but a few.

YOU SHOULD ask Moby, McGlory, about 'Mambo', I remember Moby posting hers over the summer, so you may have two people steering you that way. It's really unique in color and there's nothing else that I can say is even close.

'Dark Sensation' has a huge, wonderfully fragrant flower, not to be missed! The color is beautiful.

The way I see it, the easiest and best thing to do would be to order one of each, then you can compare next summer and get back to me on it ;)

Ah! An experiment! Research is probably even tax deductible!

Moby, are your ears ringing? Where are your pictures?

I would think dear Moby's ears would be ringing, most certainly by now ;)

Ohhhh, Moooooby.......where are you??

sounda like fun

Sorry ~ head congestion is dulling the ringing in my ears. lol

Here's Mambo

You're kind of like Batman, aren't you? Holler your name and you appear. :-)

Mambo is lovely. Would you call it red or pinkish red?

Hope you're congestion subsides soon!

Mambo has a slight raspberry tone to it but it's very red. Hard to capture.

Red Alert

In this big pic, you can see Red Alert in the front center, a stem of Red Velvet in the center back and Heart of Passion to the right.

And yes, Batman was my hero from way back. Just check out those shades ~ ;)

So the conclusion would be back to what magnolialover first suggested -- buy at least one of each to have a fair comparison. :-) Maybe ge1836 will join in the research?

Snazzy shades, by the way. Since it took you so long this time to answer the call, Moby, perhaps we shall install a Mobylight. (Is that what they called it? The Batlight that Gotham City shined in the sky to call Batman? Seems like that name isn't right.)

We could do that... 'course there's always the telephone. lol

Telephone? You mean talking? Like in English and stuff?

Yeah, you know that thing you had implanted in your head?

Funny!

Mags, I did what you suggest. I planted several reds (with the PNWLS prices I could buy three for the price of one) and I am testing them, particularly Hiawatha and Red Alert. The Vamp is bright red, but I can't find it any more. I do remember trying out one of each of six orientals and none of them worked. When I asked The Lily Garden what I did wrong, assuming it was my error (which it probebly was) they responded that they wanted me to be happy so they sent me SIX of a lily they said worked well for a lot of people. Sorbonne. That was in the spring of 2002 and they are still with me. And that's why they get an order from me every year.

I like the Lily Garden too altho you were lucky to be in touch with them.
They loose points on the customer service as far as I'm concerned. I will
order from them again but no hope of finding out if they recieved the order or when it will be shipped.
Just hope and pray.

I'vr never had anything but exemplary service, and I have ordered for at least six years.

And they are a Watchdog top 5 lily supplier.
http://davesgarden.com/products/gwd/c/1248/

This message was edited Nov 23, 2009 11:39 AM

Glorious plants too. Rosepoint Lace.

Thanks for the rosepoint lace pix.
I planted those a month ago from The Lily Garden.
I do love her lilies and she sends a treat.

Donna ~ is this the Vamp you're referring to? It has an orangey center that I find a bit glaring for my tastes, but you know where it belongs in my garden.

Lily Nook carries it http://www.lilynook.mb.ca/Catalog/asiatics-q-z.html

ge Judith (Lily Garden) is an amazing hybridizer, she works mostly alone in the office, so I have found contacting her via email is best. I will forever buy from her as she is one of the kindest and most generous in the business, besides being one of the best hybridizers. She is amazing and although she may take greater than a day or two to get back to you, I'd say the rest of it makes up for what she lacks in business, in my opinion. I just love the Lily Garden!

I was fascinated when I uploaded a pic to plantfile. Mine is a honking, screaming red.

I have to agree with you there! Doesn't look like they're quite the same critter ~ where did yours come from?

It came from White Flower Farm and, you know, it was never offered again. Not only that, but I can't find ggogle images of it either. I wonder whether they made a mistake and then got quiet about it.

And it isn't that the color is distorted. Here it is with Rosepoint Lace so you can judge the color.

Is this one of those things that make you go hmmmm?

Edited to ask, where did yours come from?

This message was edited Nov 24, 2009 6:04 AM
Edited to say that further down the thread it was pointed out to me that Red Alert is from The Lily Garden.

This message was edited Nov 25, 2009 10:14 AM
Edited again. Where's my brain/ The Vamp is from TLG. Red Alert is from B&D.

This message was edited Nov 26, 2009 10:19 AM