Vou le vous parlez avec moi, Gypsies

Post picture's of your Noid Elephant ear's and maybe we can all figure out what you have.

I am with Venice, read the comment's on that chocolate vine that you have.

Venice the book (the Secret Garden) was originally written in 1910, the syntax may be easier for your granddaughter in a newer version....like Little Women has a million different versions, some are updated so they don't use words that nobody knows anymore...like fortnight, not too many 10 yr olds know that...even items of clothing are different! check barnes & nobles website for the different versions, and then you'll know which one to look for.

it's only about 2" tall right now Rachel! maybe I should let it get an actual leaf before I go posting pictures....LOL

maybe the cholcolate vine will kill off the milkweed the neighbor on the other side of my fence planted on purpose....LOL

Good evening All. Looks like this thread needs to come to a close....grin Here is the link to the new thread....


http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1056741/

Hi all, Yes Rachael, Jo is cooking. Our Thanksgiving will be the day after. Our son's ex to be is carrying the kids to her folks on Thanksgiving day. Usually we don't do much for Thanksgiving but she wants to good big time for our son and his children. This is a hard time for the kids.

Here is a picture of the fall blooming marigolds that I posted a foliage picture of 10,000 posts ago. Only problem is the wind blew them over.

Old timey tall Mums coming up.

Jean, Jim has both you and I beat by 10 ;-)

Good to see you again Jim, wish I had been here when you were.

And as far as toots go..............let me tell you what my mother use to say, and I have now past it one to any of the elderly that I have worked with, and they smile when I tell them it. And one of the clients I take care of now.
Mom would say............"It wasn't paying rent, so it had to get out". ^_^

Right on Kassy. Good to hear from you. Got a lady from S. Africa posting a lot of wild flowers on another thread. Told Moon she was the Kassy of S. Africa. You got snow and cold?

Morning Jim, sounds like an interesting post! Give Jo hugs and hope new church is going well for you. Kassy you are something! Have a good day

I haven't changed churchs flowers. Just been supplying a couple of times a month. Don't think they can make up their minds if they want an old codger like me for a pastor.

Well come here and we'll start one, I'll be the chior director u hum la la la

If I ever get to NC, I'll come to see you. My oldest grandson is there now. He just finished Marine Corp boot camp and infantry training and will taking his next school there. Don't know what part of the state he is in.

Thats neat Jim, I wish him the best and if he needs shelter and food I would be happy to help. Check out my new thread Natural Garden and Home Remedys, think this would be something you would be interested in.

No Jim, our weather is really mixed up this year. No snow as of now. Did have some on October 12th though.
45 Degrees and rain now at 7:30 pm.


lilac's budding, and other plants doing things they shouldn't be doing at this time of year. I don't have the pictures in my computer yet, so I can't put them in, but I'll show them to you when I get a chance.
We have a dandelion in full bloom! The flower is almost bigger then the little plant is.
And we have Grape Hyacinth's trying to grow now too..........

This is the snow we had in October though.

I am sure this thread is an old one now but I am going ahead and add anyway's;-)

Jim, I am sorry that your son and his wife are going threw difficult time's right now and that's never easy on their children. I am sure you and Jo will give your grand children joy over the Thanksgiving holiday. I sure enjoyed viewing the picture of your Mum's and Marigold's. Those were beautiful picture's from your garden.

Kassy, you added a lovely picture too and Flower's I will have to check out your Home remedy thread. I should learn something there for sure. May not be able to add but I will enjoy learning.

catch up to you all soon.

Hi Rachel. The boy is going through a rough time. With all she has put him through, he still loves her. He has finally had enough and is rectified that it is over. The thing that is killing him now is not being able to see the kids every night. He is a real family man.

I'm glad you enjoyed the pictures. I especially like the old time fall blooming marigolds. They are worth having just for the beautiful folige all summer long.

I'll check out the thread, Flowers.

I'm never sure which marigolds are the hardy perennial type...something I've been meaning to look into.....
That stinks for your son Jim! Stinks for the kids too.

This too will pass Jim, and as man of the cloth so to speak just keep eyes pointed up and I'll send one up too.

I have to say that Jo and I saw this coming for a long time. I think Mark will wind up with the kids. I don't really think she wants to be tied down from her actions. He has all ways been the care giver. Fortunately, about the time this mess started they had gotten Amber ,the autistic daughter , qualified for home care. She has two wonderful black women that stay with her five and a half days a week, from 7am to 9 pm. They are truly an answer to prayer. They give her a world of love and attention.

It is always painful when we as parents see the obvious outcome long before our children. Good thoughts and prayers for them. So happy Amber has such good and loving care. that will be so important now. That will certainly make things easier when your son has the children.

Looks like he is going to have her all the time. As of now the other kids just go and spend a night or two with her. The 16 year old girl is really having problems with this. She has developed a terrible attitude toward her dad. She knows what her mom did but has chosen to blame it on Mark. It will all work out. She is just hurt.

They always get angry at the one who realizes things are not right. All ya can do is love them and try to be there for them, whether they think they need you or not. We have been dealing with abandonment issues with GSJordan since he was two....sigh. Keep trying to stay the highroad when there is so much temptation to sink to his "incubator's" level. A tangled can of worms there...sigh

So upsetting Jim! The kids take it out on the safe parent, it's easier for her to take it out on dad probably because he's the steady one, he won't walk. It will be rough for a bit but then settle down some. Stay steady! Just keep chewing on your tongue haha

I've been chewing that tongue for twenty years. That has been the hard part. Keeping dead silent to the kids. Our son is just wanting this to be over. He should have filed the second time he caught her in adultry and it would be over. He held the winning hand but loved her so much he took her back again. Forgive and give another chance the first time. We can all make a mistake. The second time, forgive while you are kicking her out. Then change all the locks on the doors.

I appreciate all of you guys encouragement. I'm ok but can't help but worry about the kids especially the girl. The boy is ok. He doesn't like it worth a flip but he understands what his dad went through. Given his druthers, he'd probably stay with Mark full time.

Hang in there Jim.
She will come around.
I have a niece in sorta the same situation. ( They were cohabitaing but not married). Blamed her dad for all her mothers problems when actually he hung in there way longer than most would have just for the little girl, shes 11.
He has been gone now about 7 months After sticking up for her mom and making excuses for her she all this time she now is having second thoughts on what really went on. She will tell you she just felt like someone needed to be on her moms side. Seemed at the time everyone was picking on her mom. Now she has come full circle and wants to go live with her dad.

It will work out, just may take time. But we are here for you.

right, can't make it look like she's the victim!
social worker told a friend that the child is more mad at the parent who stays, not the one who leaves. Don't know how true that is.

Both kids have always made the honor roll. Both had F's on this report card. Isn't it a shame when we think more of our self than our children. I just hope the girl doesn't make some foolish mistake. There is so much peer presure. Not worried about the boy. We can keep him busy with the 4 wheeler and hunting.

yes it is, Jim! Does the girl have good close friends, or another woman nearby to turn to, besdies Jo?

The parent that stays is accessible and has proven that they are not gonna leave, so that makes them a safe target for the hurt and anger. It does not hurt to let your granddaughter know that you guys are hurt, sad and angry about the situation (can't say anything bad about either parent, just the situation at hand) and even though this same thing has happened to thousands of families, that does not change the fact that this is new and frightening and so very personal to her. Thoughts and prayers for you all...Jean

Sorry I got so heavy with you guys. Want you all to know how much I love and appreciate you. Surprizing how close you can get to a group you have never met in person. Maybe the anominity allows us to open up more.

You can never get too heavy for those that care for and respect you, Jim....grin Kinda think it is like the Catholic confessional...easier to admit what is going on when you are speaking to an "ear" rather than a face....or in this case, an "eye"

I agree, Moon.

You guys have seen ♪ the real me.. me.... me... me.... ♫

I just love our musical connection, Julie...Grin

Ahh Jim, you did not get too heavy with us were all of this is concerned. I am glad you felt like you could talk to us "gal's" over such. I sure hope the best for the children and I am very sorry that your son was hurt so much by this woman he loved.

Happy Birthday Smiley! Wishing you a tremendous day;-))))))) I can't sing worth a darn or I would sing for ya.

I can't help it Moon.

Jim, so sorry your grandkids have to go through that. We have a friend who went through a really messy divorce (she left & took 1 of 2 kids with her) and she bad mouthed him all over the place, but he never said anything bad about her to the remaining son.

The son palled around with our son, so pretty soon I was shopping for 5 instead of 4. I didn't mind, but my mom did. She said they were taking advantage of us. I gently told her it was MY choice for him to be there, and if it was a safe haven for the kid to get away from all the crap he had to deal with, so the better.

Kids need a place where they can forget everything for a while & just be themselves.

Thank you Rachel!

Good on you Smiley...that kid needed the normalcy of a family, even if it wasn't his. Too kind of you and DH to give him that.

Hi Rachel. Good to see you.

It was an unconscious act, at the time. Wasn't until DH & I talked about it that we realized how important it was to the kid about a month into it.

She pulled a really raw deal on the guy, used the kids to get what she wanted, it was bad. But the kid would walk in and say "Looo-cy, I'm home".

Always tried to make our house a place where they could be themselves.

Ok you guy's, I need some help;-) I have never had to deal with mealybug's but I am now! I believe Jim and a few of you have dealt with this problem before. I have hosed the plant down and used aninsecticidal spray . Will I need to repeat this again over a period of time or is one dose good enough to get rid of mealy's?