Critter: You are truly amazing!
Swap Chat III Ric & Holly's
Jen,
That chart is great. Already following its advice, and made a copy for my neighbor, too.
Dixie
just wanted to let everyone know we had such a great day ... it was really nice to meet you all...and thank you for all the great plants!
Once again, a wonderful time was had by all. Thank you so much Holly and Ric for hosting this event for us. It was a very large crowd. Did anyone think to count how many people were there? As someone commented, we moved a lot of plants through there yesterday.
Somehow, we have come home with as many plants or more than we took. I am sure that I will be contacting some of you as we get these planted with questions regarding names what conditions they like to live in. John just walked out the door to begin potting and planting some the goodies we received.
Let me take this opportunity to ask forgiveness if we somehow missed distributing things that any of you may have asked for. I know that towards the end we had 5 or 6 Bee Balm that hadn't been claimed.
If the rain will hold off a bit this morning, I will go out later and help John with the planting. We won't even try to get everything planted today, because there is so much of it. I especially love getting things at the swaps or in the mail from you good people. I am always reminded of each of you as I look at the different plants from you. It makes everything extra special.
I believe that my favorite is going to be the Elephant Ear that I got from Miata, which will be potted in the absolutely most gorgeous elephant planter that Holly blessed me with. Thank you so very much Holly. It is very special to me. I will think of you often. John wants to know what the pot is made of in order for him to see if he will be able to put drain holes in it. I will dmail and ask you this question too.
A special thank you to each of you who shared with my niece Angela. We visited her home on Friday and she is getting a good yarden going. She was very thrilled and I am sure she thanks each of you for being so generous to her.
I am looking forward to seeing what all everyone has to say about their day. A great big thank you to everyone who so graciously shared with us. We are going to have some beautiful new things to grace our yarden.
Take care and enjoy your day.
Ruby
Good morning :)
We had a really wonderful time too. Onewish, so sorry I forgot your penstemon's, I still have to find where they ended up. I think they got camouflaged by a taller neighbor! Also, I forgot to tell Roses I ran out of time to pot up her amaranthus green tails, sorry.
Happy, you left before I had a chance to give you the hydrangea. Sally has it if you want it -- if not, she'll find a spot for it.
I'm just unloading the car this morning of all the goodies. We were too tired to do it last night. HollyAnn and Ric, thanks so much for hosting the swap, your gardens and all your garden art and water features are beautiful.
Thanks everyone for sharing your plants. I am looking forward to growing them all.
Thank you all (and especially Holly and Ric for hosting). Even though I was only there for a blink, I had a wonderful time.
(Edited to fix my boo-boo.)
This message was edited May 17, 2009 5:26 PM
Holly & Ric, thank you for being such wonderful hosts, sharing your gorgeous yarden with us, cooking up all those grilled treats, and never being too busy for a smile or a hug! Your plant party was a grand event! Thank you so much for all the hostas, etc... and for my beautiful little plum tree!
I'm so glad to have been able to meet so many of the friends I've been chatting with... and I am just agog at how many plants are out there in the car! (Like wind, I was too beat to unload last night other than putting Miata's plants into her car when we pulled in.)
Ruby, I'm glad Angela and the kids had a good time, too! I was so blown away by that enormous pot of DLs John brought for me that I completely forgot to ask if you'd brought any bee balm. That's fine; the bees have plenty to keep them busy in my yard! LOL I know some of my plants didn't get handed out as intended, either, but I think they all went home with somebody, and I think everybody went home with "enough" plants LOL.
As several of us commented yesterday, I don't really think our events are "swaps" as such, since nobody much worries about even trades, etc. I think it was more of a "share" or maybe just a "plant party." :-)
We need a thread for photos! Since I managed to bring my camera and take exactly zero photos, somebody else will have to start us off...
THANK YOU to all who came yesterday. The best part was just visiting with everybody!
Wind the two penstemon have your name written on them with yellow tags on the reverse side... I brought them over to you when you were unpacking your stuff... hope somebody didn't grab them up on you on accident
we can meet up somewhere if they did... I can give you a few more
Onewish...I meant the penstemon's I had here for YOU :)))))
I do have yours, thank you so much. And by-the-way, I love how you did your labeling. How did you do that?
Ruby, did I remember to give you and John the Korean clematis?
Bob and I had such a wonderful time and TRULY appreciated everything that Ric and Holly did in preparation for this and while we were there enjoying ourselves. Holly didn't miss a beat ANYWHERE!!
I's a shame that I forgot about using my camera because I was so busy drooling over all the plants and having so much fun socializing!!
I can't wait for someone to send some group pictures with all the corresponding names. Everyone's face remains with me, but I'm usually terrible about names.
Thank you for all the plants that will help me to fill my new bed.
Hope to see you all again, soon.
Regards
Teri
Holly,
thank you and Ric for doing so much work! Greaqt food and great company.
So far I have half of the perilla in the ground.
I'm still sorting and organizing and planning.
I left before One wish got there I think. so she may not have seen her snowdrops (by now looks probably like a black pot with dirt, or the orchid-thingy I left. Dump in the woods somewhere if it got left in your yard?
THANKS EVERYONE
Speaking of things that got left...
Holly, I noticed you or Ric rescued your tomatoes from under the tree... hope you didn't forget to rescue the "Sea Holly" I left you also... figured you needed this plant, just because of the name! It's been overwintered either 1 or 2 years here, so should be ready to take off this year when planted out.
Also, I handed the warming trays to Ric when I arrived and then promptly forgot about them. I have no urgent need of them, so not to worry... I'll just try to remember to get them from you the next time we get together!
Midrashist, Don't worry any plants left here will find a home. There are a few pots of things sitting here and there but my DIL will put them to good use.
Yes, The tomatoes are tucked in and I found the Sea Holly made sure that it didn't belong to anyone else and promptly moved it to my plant stack. I noticed the warming trays last night when I started to clean up the kitchen. I found a few other things left behind a large mixing spoon and R_R_R your container that had the dressing in it. I can send them back an and will look for anything that anyone else is missing. Last night and even this morning I was munching on leftovers.
Critter, I can run those warming trays down anytime just let me know.
LOL... since we had to dig the big one out of the basement, we're not in a rush to get the warming trays back. But of course, you're welcome for a visit any time! (Weren't we discussing a possible lunch thing? :-)
Holly & Ric, what a great time we all had. You throw a fantastic swap. Enjoyed seeing old friends and meeting new ones. I should be out planting all my booty, but I wanted to get the pictures I took posted. So I'm just lazing today. Glad it didn't rain too much. In fact it just started to pour when Critter and I got back to her house. Then kindly stopped just in time to transfer my plants to my car. Had to drive the rest of the way in the rain to my house, but glad it held off that long.
Glad you like the Elephant Ear Ruby. I really liked it last year too. Glad I managed to get some through the winter under my lights.
Thanks again Holly for having us all at your place. And thanks to all who came. It was a blast!
Thank you Ric and Holly for a wonderful time!
We got home around 2:00 pm Sunday, unloaded the car, Fixed something to eat and I went outside to sort plants. The weather turned cool after the rain and wind last night so I put on an extra fleece pullover to get the job done. Right now I am resting with feet up on chair and keyboard in lap typing.
I can't believe all the wonderful plants I was given, even found some unsolicited ones in the mix. Thank you all for the wonderful food, good friendship, and warn hugs.
Paul and I had a great time.
Love and Hugs to all.
Chris
Holly--
I bet that big, old, white. plastic mixing spoon is what I put in my Potato salad....I had NO intention of taking it back! keep it----use it---or toss it!
Thanks again! Gita
The plastic container that I left there is yours if you can use it.
You really did a teriffic job for us.
Regards
Teri
Thank you all for your generosity and friendliness. I now have faces to associate with the DG names!
All the plants we received are spread out in the driveway while Kat draws plans in our notebook of what MIGHT go where. Good thing the hose is near the driveway!
Thank you again.
Nisi, Please be sure to stay around and join us in our chat! It was great meeting you and Kat!
I can't remember when I had that much fun. I know that I didn't get to talk to everyone near as much as I would have liked, and apologize to those that I didn't.I know there were a few I missed. Didn't even get to go around to everyone's tables and see all the plants that were brought. I have this wonderful pile of plants, that everyone pulled out for me, some are already in the ground. Those Pop ups that everyone brought sure came in handy for a few minutes here and there, I think I may need to pick up one of those.
Ric and I had a great time hosting, but all of you made the swap great. You all came together with the wonderful generosity and spirit that seems to be a hallmark of the DG members. Thank you all for coming.
Holly and Ric thanks for hosting such a great and fun swap. It was my first and shall be the standard any future ones are held to. It was wonderful to meet everyone and everyone was so very generous. Can't wait til we do it again.
Holly, was that your son who gave me the Jack-in-the-pulpit (in a little peat pot) that he'd found while trout fishing?
Yes Critter, That was my youngest son Jamie, my DIL Debbie and GS JR were all here. All my other children weren't able to attend Josh and Jules working and Jen was off to her MIL for a late Mothers Day celebration.
That should be Dutchmens Britches not Jacks. Just plant the empty looking cup and hope for the best. Since DB's retreat about this time you won't seem them until next year. But they should come up for you.
Agh! At least I remembered whose son I was talking to... thanks for the correction. He explained about finding them a good spot (and a labeled marker). :-)
Thanks!
Me again. Critter - Towards the very end of the swap, we had either five or six pots of Bee Balm and couldn't figure who they belonged to, so we just handed them out. I am sorry that you didn't get yours, but John tells me that a get together is being talked about, so I will get some to you when we meet again.
Wind, I cannot say for sure whether we got the Korean Clematis or not. I haven't had a chance to go through the things that we brought home yet. Don't worry, John has done some planting the last two days for the things that looked as though they needed to get in the ground. If you happen to find that you brought it back home, maybe you and Angela could get together and she can transport it here when she visits in July. I am looking forward to seeing what it looks like.
To all others, yes indeed, this was a boat load of fun for all. I am like some of the others here, can't wait until the next one. LOL
Ruby
Oh golly Ruby, you don't owe me anything! Did you see the size of that pot of daylilies John handed to me? Plus I got 2 nice clumps of my favorite 'Happy Returns' (will share one with Aspenthomas or my gardening neighbor). If my little Korean Beauty clem makes it, I will make it give up a cutting for you! (PS, you're looking for a seedling that's only an inch or two tall, in a styrofoam cup... but several sources say "blooms first year from seed, if started early.")
A Funny Thing Happened after Ya'll left.
I'm glad we didn't wait another week for the swap! On Monday a contractor came to replace the neighbor's electric service pole, they got the pole auger truck (think 32K #s) stuck in the pasture. He didn't realize it was soft, even though he left 6-8" ruts driving in. I had to call in a big "Cat" backhoe to get them out. I should have recorded the whole thing for "America's Funniest Home Videos", after they got the truck loose and set the pole they realized the new pole required a longer drop wire, which they didn't have with them, of course. Then they realized there were tree limbs in the way and didn't have a pole clip or chain saw with them, so I loaned them mine. The only good thing is the backhoe operator was bored while "standing by" for them to get there truck out, and graded the hole they dug with the truck so I could reseed it. One season to regrow the grass, and one winter to freeze and thaw out the ruts, We'll be as good as new. LOL :-) Ric
Ric, Sounds like Murphy's Law at work. Glad it was this week!
Oh gosh.
Hey--You two!!!!
Thought i would tell you, ric, that after 3 days of fooling with my kitchen sink--I called a local plumber.....he was here snaking away for about 40 minutes and got it all cleared......
Cost me $195! oh, well!
Gita
Oh Gita, I should have sent Jamie home with you. He's a plumber.
I was wondering about that, Holly... I know he's plumbed some stuff for you (and you were talking about his plumbing a fountain into your old bathtub), but I didn't know if he was a plumber by trade or just very handy.
Gita, I'm glad you got your sink back... sorry the solution was $$.
Yes, He is a plumber by trade, Funny toss up when he was in high school and headed for Vo-Tech he was trying to decide between the HVAC classes and the Horti classes. He has a real interest in nature and some good artistic qualities. Not sure any one noticed the two oil paintings in the house over the computer stand and kitchen saver. He painted those when he was pretty young. I took him to one of those Bob Ross classes and was amazed what a 10 year old could do. Couldn't get over the difference between the other kids paintings and his and he was the youngest of the group.
He does have a really good job thought, public works, does industrial and residential plumbing, asbestos removal and works the snow crew for overtime in the winter. My DIL is a stay at home and now that JR will be in school all day she is starting back at college in the fall.
Josh his older brother (the one with the house) took HVAC in Vo-tech, too. He does beautiful work. Worked as a sub-contractor for several years when he first graduated. He has been working for several years now building bridges for a living now, you probably came over one of his bridges on your way here.
I remember you said that you rarely see Josh in summer, during construction season. I loved meeting Jamie... very self-possessed, warm, funny... I know you're proud as could be of both of them, and you should be!
Yes, Holly and I really enjoyed meeting Debbie too. She seemed to be a great help to you during the swap.
Yes, I am proud and have been very lucky with all my children, the girls Jul and Jen are great, too.
DOC---
I THOUGHT THIS WOULD BENEFIT YOU--SINCE YOU ARE NOW THE PROUD OWNER OF A NIGHT BLOOMING CEREUS....
Mind you--there seem to be different types.....
I had this saved in my Documents.....Gita
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CARE OF THE NIGHT BLOOMING CEREUS AKA "CHRIST IN THE MANGER" (Connie243—OH.)
Some things you need to know:
1. They don't do as well in full sun as in the shade. {Depending on where you live and the type of heat that you have in the summer}. I keep mine on my front porch, which faces north. {I live in Southern Ohio on the river, summers here can get hot and humid}.
2. They like to be somewhat root bound [being root bound is the secret to getting it to bloom well] and will bloom better if they are. DON'T re-pot any more that every 3 yrs. and just go up 1 pot size. I use regular potting soil & peat moss, and add a hand full of bone meal. Mine are so big now that I just exchange the soil and don't go to a bigger pot. In a few years I will probably have to divide the plants again. I have done that once already.
Here is a copy of instructions that a friend of my Sister sent me, on the care of the Cereus a few years ago. Notice that this one is for the cactus type cereus. I have inserted my ideas into this letter in ALL CAPS, so you can see what my thinking and feelings are on what they say.
If you have any questions at all, no matter how silly you think they may sound, please write and ask. I love to help people grow and enjoy the "Christ In The Manger". This is the name that my Mother called the Cereus when I was growing up and it is what I call it also. I think the Queen of the Night is the name of the one that has a cactus looking tri-side stem, instead of the flat leaf....(doc--you have the flat leaf--I believe!).....
Keep me informed of your progress & Good luck, Connie
QUEEN OF THE NIGHT
Selenicereus Grandiflorus
Size and growth rate
Queen of the Night is a slender cactus with yard-long, looping stems, which need support. It can get quite big. THEY WILL NOT GET THIS LONG IF YOU PINCH THE TIP OFF A STRAIGHT STEM WHEN IT GETS ABOUT A FOOT OR SO HIGH. THIS
FORCES IT TO PUT OUT LEAFS INSTEAD OF GROWING LONG STEMS WITH 1 LEAF ON IT. NOTICE I SAID "STEM" NOT "LEAFS".
THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT STEP TO KEEPING IT LOOKING BEAUTIFUL YEAR ROUND. IT WILL PUT OUT LONG SHOOTS OR STEMS & ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS PINCH ABOUT 1/4 TO 1/2 INCH OFF THE TIP END WHEN IT GETS TO YOUR DESIRED HEIGHT AND THAT WILL FORCE IT TO PUT OUT LEAVES. The tip is very soft and easy to pinch off.
Flowering and Fragrance
The flowers are trumpet shaped and grow to a length of about 10 inches, with a diameter of 8 to 12 inches. The white petals are surrounded by yellow - brown bract I WOULD CALL MY BRACTS PINK AND NOT YELLOW-BROWN. The plant
characteristically blooms very briefly in June/July. MINE BLOOM FROM JUNE TO SEPT OR OCT. DEPENDING ON THE WEATHER. Flowers last only one night and die early morning.
The flowers have a strong but pleasant fragrance."HEAVENLY" In its natural environment, the flower attracts night insects to pollinate it.
Light and Temperature
In the winter, the plant should have as much sun as possible. As soon as the spring sun comes, however, it should be given curtain-filtered sunlight. During the winter months the temperature should be about 55 deg. to 65 deg.F , but in the summer, it can tolerate higher temperatures. SEE NOTE BELOW
Watering and Feeding
The soil should be kept moist from November to April. I DON'T KEEP MINE MOIST THROUGH THE WINTER MONTHS. I water them when they feel dry on top. Throughout the summer, water frequently and feed the plant with a weak plant food solution. Mist the plant frequently. 10-10-10 IS GOOD FOOD & DON'T MIST IF IT IS IN THE SUN! I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIND THE 10-10-10 SO I STARTED USING THE 20-20-20, AND JUST ADDING HALF AS MUCH AS WHAT IT CALLS FOR PER GALLON
Soil and Transplanting
Queen of the Night likes a rich peaty soil, and the pot should be well drained. The plant can be re-potted about once every three years when flowering is over. I HAVE ALWAYS DONE MY RE-POTTING IN THE SPRING, MAINLY BECAUSE IN THE FALL WHEN I BRING THEM IN THE HOUSE THEY USUALLY HAVE A FEW BUDS STILL ON THEM. JUST GO UP 1 POT SIZE AS YOU WANT IT TO STAY ROOT BOUND.
Grooming
Queen of the Night is not usually trimmed, but if it becomes too large for its environment, it will not be harmed if is is carefully groomed back.
THIS I DO NOT AGREE WITH, IF YOU DON'T TRIM IT WILL GROW LONG AND STRAGGLY AND WON'T PRODUCE THE RIGHT SIZE LEAF TO BLOOM! ALSO IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO KNOW IS THAT IT IS THE "OLD LEAVES" THAT PRODUCE THE BUDS, SO NEVER REMOVE THEM.
Propagating
Queen of the Night is increased by cuttings. Carefully trim off the young fresh side shoots which should be 34 to 6 inches long. It is very important that the shoots are not too old. Once a cutting has been take, allow the surface of the wound to dry. Then set it in pure peat, sticking it in to a depth of about an inch. Long, thin cuttings should be supported. Keep the soil moist.
{ I DISAGREE WITH MOST OF THIS, YOU CAN TAKE A LEAF OR A BARE STEM AND PUT IT DIRECTLY INTO THE SOIL OR WATER, AND IT WILL ROOT } THIS COULD BE BECAUSE THEY ARE REFERRING TO THE CACTUS TYPE CEREUS & NOT THE FLAT LEAF ONE.
Environment
Queen of the Night is a tropical Epiphyte, which thrives best in high humidity and high temperature. At home it will do best with other plants in the greenhouse, or on the sun porch.
Buying tips
Queen of the Night is one of the rarer cacti. The plant should be completely undamaged and free of brown patches on the shoots.
IF YOU GET BROWN SPOTS ON A LEAF IT IS MOST LIKELY CAUSED BY ONE OF TWO THINGS. 1. SUN BURN {IN SUMMER} 2. COLD DRAFT {IN WINTER} EITHER WAY JUST IGNORE IT OR YOU CAN CUT AWAY THE BROWN SPOT BUT DON'T REMOVE THE WHOLE LEAF. IT MAY BE ONE THAT WILL PRODUCE BLOOMS.
Life-span
Queen of the Night can grow to a ripe old age. The first flowering comes after a few years. MY PLANTS HAVE A 50+ ROOTS IN THERE SOMEWHERE. ALWAYS REMEMBER IT IS THE OLD LEAFS THAT BLOOM AND NOT THE NEW ONES. I WOULD GUESS THAT IT MAY TAKE A NEW LEAF ABOUT 4 - 7 YEARS TO BLOOM FOR THE FIRST TIME. THIS IS MERELY A GUESS.
Season
Can be bought throughout the year. {I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU CAN BUY THEM. I HAD A FLORIST ASK ME FOR ONE OF MINE BECAUSE SHE COULDN'T FIND ONE}
Difficulty quotient
Queen of the Night should be grown on a sun porch, in a heated greenhouse, or in a living room with a south facing window.
MINE ARE IN A GLASSED IN SUN ROOM FACING EAST AND HAVE DONE VERY WELL THROUGHOUT THE WINTER MONTHS, FOR SUMMER THEY ARE ON THE FRONT PORCH IN ALMOST FULL SHADE FACING NORTH.
QUEEN OF THE NIGHT through the year December - March : Keep the temperature between about 55 - 65 deg. F.
MINE ARE AT THE SAME TEMP. AS THE REST OF
THE HOUSE, FOR OUR COMFORT. ABOUT 70 DEG. DAY AND 65 NIGHT. IMPORTANT TO KEEP OUT OF DRAFT IF POSSIBLE.
Water carefully, making sure that the soil around the roots is kept moist. The plant should have direct sunlight during the winter months. I DON'T WATER MINE THAT MUCH THROUGH THE WINTER, I NEVER KEEP THE SOIL MOIST, LET IT GET ALMOST DRY BEFORE WATERING AGAIN.
APRIL - SEPTEMBER : When the spring sunshine brings some warmth, give the plant curtain filtered sunlight. WHEN THE THREAT OF FROST IS GONE, AND THE NIGHTS WARM UP TO 50 DEG. I PUT THEM OUTSIDE ON MY FRONT PORCH WHICH FACES NORTH. {USUALLY LATE APRIL OR EARLY MAY, HERE IN OHIO.
From April onward, gradually increase watering. The plant needs a lot of water, and during the summer months it should also be misted frequently.
DON'T MIST IN THE SUNSHINE OR YOU WILL BURN THE LEAFS. ALSO NOW IS WHEN YOU WANT TO START FERTILIZING IT. I USE A 10-10-10 PETER'S FERTILIZER. IN APRIL ABOUT ONCE A MONTH
From May to the end of August, the plant should be fed twice a month. I AGREE
JUNE - JULY : If need be, the plant can be re-potted after flowering. It is usually enough to repot once every three years using a rich soil (preferably a mixture of 1/3 ordinary soil and 2/3 peat). WHEN I RE-POT I ADD A HANDFUL OF BONE MEAL TO THE SOIL AND MIX IT IN. I USE ABOUT 1/2 AND 1/2 PEAT & POTTING SOIL. Good drainage is a must. I HAVE THE BOTTOM OF THE POT FULL OF RIVER GRAVEL, THIS IS GOOD FOR WATER DRAINAGE AND ALSO TO WEIGH THE BOTTOM DOWN, TO KEEP THE PLANT FROM GETTING TOP HEAVY. I use a tomato stake in each of my pots to stake them up, and tie them to the stake with old sheets torn into strips.
OCTOBER - DECEMBER:Queen of the Night should be placed in a spot with as much sun as possible, keeping the temp. between 55 - 65 deg. F.
I HAVE MINE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE HOUSE. THEY GET MORNING DIRECT SUN AND THE REST JUST LIGHT. IT SEEMS TO WORK FOR ME.
I WILL FERTILIZE MINE WHEN I BRING THEM BACK INTO THE HOUSE IN THE FALL, THEN AGAIN AROUND FEB. AND THEN AGAIN IN APRIL, BEFORE I PUT THEM BACK
OUTSIDE.
BRING THEM BACK INSIDE IN THE FALL. SINCE MINE ARE WELL PROTECTED FROM THE NIGHT FROST I WILL LEAVE MINE OUT UNTIL AFTER AT LEAST THE FIRST LIGHT FROST. THEY SAY THAT THE COOL NIGHTS OF FALL IS WHAT SETS THE BUDS ON FOR THE NEXT SUMMER. JUST DON'T LET THE FROST HIT THE LEAVES.
GOOD LUCK
Connie
Here is something that I found on one of the forums, and want to share it with all of you here. It is a home recipe of fertilizer that is good for the Night Blooming Cereus. I have used it on my plants several times this year and they are blooming like crazy so I can say that it does work. Doesn't smell good, but it works.
Go to the epiforums site, fertilization forum to read more about it. (this is what Becky Sewell wrote on epiforums.com)(taken from the epiforums.com site):
Fast-Aging Cactus Fertilizer
1 can of beer
1 cup of Epsom salts
1/2 cup of ammonia
2 cups of water
Mix and put into a 1-quart container. Use 1/2 oz. per gallon of
water every two weeks, when you water your cactus.
1 cup = 8 ounces; 1/4 cup = 2 ounces = 4 tablespoons
1 fluid ounce = 2 tablespoons; therefore 1/2 oz is 1 Tbsp.
I've kept this stuff in the capped bottle for two months (till it was all used), and it did not develop mold, fungus, rot, or any other profoundly negative attributes. I shake it before pouring into my big water jug, and it has smelled the same the entire time, besides maintaining its initial clarity.
The above formula was acquired from
[HYPERLINK@www.sunshine4-u.com] site.
Ohhh Gita....gonna keep those "just in case" - although my large hodgepodge pot of NB Epis bloomed finally last summer for me....subtle lily like scent...I just couldn't stop taking the pictures....it was amazing...
