Tropical Garden #27

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

awesome croton..I just started collecting them last year...

Yep, it's the unusual that I'd be looking for.

Here's this weeks blog
"Clearly Clerodendrums"
http://www.chron.com/commons/persona.html?newspaperUserId=rjudd&plckController=PersonaBlog&plckScript=personaScript&plckElementId=personaDest&plckPersonaPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3arjuddPost%3a9da14a87-c406-40ac-98ab-5c2bad59d550

Tampa, FL(Zone 10a)

I just 'discovered' Clerodendrum indicum, it is a winter bloomer here. It is very lanky. The ones I have seen here grow to about 3m and seem to have a solitary stem. Like all Clerodendrum they spread by underground suckers.

My favorite one is C. panticulatum, I am going to order 100 rooted cuttings this spring. It should be a good seller when in bloom and I never see it available in nurseries.

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Tampa, FL(Zone 10a)

When I was at Fairchild I saw>

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Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

oh ..save me one...I'm glad you know about Clerodendrums because I have question about the panticulatum http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/89331/
and the Flaming Glory Bower, Pagoda Flower, Giant Salvia
Clerodendrum speciosissimum
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/2400/
They look slightly different in the blooms, but I can't tell if I correctly named mine in the first link a panticulatum..can you clarify?

also pictured here...I call it panticulatum..but am not sure

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Tampa, FL(Zone 10a)

It was labeled Clerodendrum speciosissimum, but, it is not. This one is a vine. I haven't been able to find a name for it, here is a close up>

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Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

I think I'm calling you up as a tour guide when I go!!

Yes the Indicum grows like a bean stalk..and when they bloom, it bends the stalks all over the place. Even then, it adds intrigue to the landscape I think

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Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

copy on the vine .I think it's Clerodendrum splendens.

I was refering to your posting C Panticulatum...see I think yours looks more like
Clerodendrum speciosissimum,
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=5953142

are they both panticulatums? I just don't know...all the clerodendrum names are ambiguous I think

Tampa, FL(Zone 10a)

Your plant is panticulatum, but, the flower head seems small - is it a potted plant?

I wouldn't know what to do with indicum in a landscape, it isn't a 'stand alone' plant. It is still interesting tho...

Another - Euphorbia punicea, native to Mexico, I found some ripe seed pods.....

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Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

Here is the indicum in seed....so we get two shows from it. I haven't been able to grow the seeds though.

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Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

hmm..add your garden to my tour...lol

That's what confuses me with this varity, only one blooms stock, in ground or pot...Grows 6 feet plus tall, the blooms are more red, than the orangy blooms of the other type.
It will grow multiple stocks..with blooms...but not tons like in your picture

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Tampa, FL(Zone 10a)

I have not seen indicum volunteer here. Some seeds have to pass through an intestinal tract or have temp/scarification issues.

I bought a couple stater plants of this croton>

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Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

aah..okay...that's a good tip. I have some seeds to experiment on too.
Mine volunteer, but not as much as the usual clerodendrum.

I'm putting my croton collection in the ground this year ..we'll see what happens. The one I planted in front is doing fine so far..it was my experiment..

Nice one

The indicum you can see bent over in the center, right below the bougainvilla.

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Tampa, FL(Zone 10a)

I don't have a garden. I make them and take care of them>

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Tampa, FL(Zone 10a)

I grow plants as a hobby, I lost money last year on this project>

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Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

That's how Wayne got started at Zone9tropicals.
it is a tough business, and he's still making changes to whatever formula he employees.

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I love that euphorbia in your Post #5953204, Dale. If those seeds germinate I'd love to do a trade with you.

Miami, FL(Zone 10a)

happy new year all
great pictures as always. i love fairchild i am spoiled because i live so close and have an annual pass plus guest so let me know when you come rj. phoe(palm hammock orchid estates) is another favorite.they have great begonias there.
i love the clerodendrums but they can get soo tall. these shooting stars are about to bloom.

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Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

Thanks...arrggg....the shooting star is the only one I can't get to bloom..
I haven't tried too hard, as I'm a slacker in the winter for gardening.

Brooklyn, NY(Zone 7b)

Yes.. it's one I've yet to flower... it's one of my oldest plants... maybe 14 years old... I heard it blooms in responce to decreased light times.. and just about the time the days get shorter.. I have to bering it inside... where the day length is again longer... it's a jungle under story plant.. and I love it's health.. and lovely purple reverse on the leaves... but flowers... nope....

Tampa, FL(Zone 10a)

The only time I work in the garden is when someone is paying me.

Cyclamen in winter, in Tampa>

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North of Atlanta, GA(Zone 8a)

Dale, it is my understanding there are 2 types of cyclamen and the ones I get from the florist are not garden hardy for my zone?

Tampa, FL(Zone 10a)

Lili,

Florists Cyclamen are bred from C. persicum and then there are a bunch of other species. I do not the the parentage of persicum, but, it is the most tolerant of all the cyclamen.

I gave one to my friend Terry when she lived in Dripping Springs, TX and planted it in the ground for her, in the shade of a Live Oak. It lived and flowered in winter for years with very little extra care. It was in a sheltered location on the south side of the house and I think the key was the shade.

I think more folks in Z 8 & 9 should try the florist types outside in sheltered/shady locations. I think keeping them away from the sprinklers system is the key to their success. They are thrifty in a water sense.

Winter flowers @Bok Tower>

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Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

oh look, the possum didn't eat them all, or whatever tragedy happened to the other blooms...it is putting more buds out on other branches.

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Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

It's pretty high up

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Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

and, looks like I missed this one, which of course was eye level for photographing.

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Taft, TX(Zone 9a)

RJ, I can't wait for a visit to Houston. Your article in the Chronicle is fantastic!

A big hello to Dale! I hope to see more of both of you this year on DG.

Tampa, FL(Zone 10a)

This thread is getting long...who's in charge around here?..not me...(:-)

xmas planters at downtown disney yesterday>

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Dallas, TX

Placenciarita, How about Tropical Garden # 28??? Jerry

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