basic how to on propagation based on my experience

Dave what is mycorrhizae? Jeanette Also is the Jump Start the same as B 12?

Ibartoo, if your pineapple sage roots, PLEASE, let me buy some or trade for some. I am having a fit trying to get some of it. I'm doing a lot of cuttings and maybe I'll have something we can trade.

Hey, that's an idea!! Ok, Dave, I'm sorry, I won't make this harder than it is. lol

Ok, so I could root gardenias and stuff. I want camillias, so are they hard to root? I'll go on a root finding mission. Me and my snips.!

Jeanette, mycorrhizae = a fungus among us, lol

http://www.mycorrhizae.com/

Mycelial Magic
Following is a video of a presentation, "6 Ways That Mushrooms Can Save The World", given by Paul Stamets at the 2008 TED conference in March.
http://www.fungi.com/mycotech/index.html

May make your eyes glaze, but just catch the drift--fascinating stuff really!

hcmcdole, my whole yard is an oddity so the eucalyptus should fit right in. They are fairly common here and keep thier form pretty well. They do need good wind protection to stay good looking.

mycorrhizae is a good fungus that helps promote rooting, the fine hairs on the roots. Just off the top of my head. I would keep trying to root it may be a bit late for some of our northern friends but it is also best to do winter cuttings on some of the more woody ornamentals. I will try to locate a source to check on for what is best. Personally I have rooted stuff that was suposed to be winter hardwood with softwood in the spring so I just try everything. Whats the worte thats gonna happen? we learn something. I will be out for a few day personal business to take care of in OKC. I will be back.
Dave

Thanks for the links hcmcdole.

See you when you get back, Dave

Guess you already knew Dave was outta pocket for a day or so. So I don't need to tell you Dave is outta pocket for a doay or so. lol

I'm so funny I just kill myself.

So mushroom com[ost is good,?

Where is he how that I need him? I got my dip n grow and now I can't find where he said he used it the strongest. Was that for woody stuff? Or?

Jeanette

Dip 'n' Grow comes with instructions. The strongest is for woody, medium for semi-woody, and weak for soft cuttings.

http://www.dipngrow.com/images/DipN%20Grow%20Instructions.pdf

Jnette - this is what Dave wrote

Thanks, that is what I was looking for.

Jeanette

Lorraine, I will be glad to share some pineapple sage cuttings with you. I will let you know when they root. If you would like to root some yourself, send me a dmail and we can work it out.
I also have lots of different camellias, azaleas and gardenias. Maybe we can trade something.

Has anyone tried rooting candy corn vine? manietta inflata. I want to try some of that, but I am almost afraid to cut it.

Greetings: Sorry for the long 2 days... LOL... It was a horrid trip but its over O-v-u-r over... LOL.... I hope to be able to rant on a bit later today. Kind of wiped out from the trip and all. Thanks for your patience. Any questions ????
Dave

Glad you're back Dave. Will let you rest up and then read thru all the posts before we start asking more questions. Won't we guys? lol. I heard them say "speak for yourself Jeanette".

Jeanette

lol

Howdy:
I have done a bit of research on aeroponics and "Bublers".
Bublers are the bucket with an airstone that adds oxygen to the water.
Aeroponics as best I can see is the use of a moist with a submerciable pump that sprays water onto the root zone of cuttings.

I believe a combination of both along with the use of h2o2 might prove to work best. Its a bit more costly to set up the first one but adding a few extra chambers should prove to be minimal in cost.
Do we want to here about my idea?... waky as it may be I think the results would prove to be better than either one alone. I would like to tie up any outstanding questions before we move on. When we do move on I will start another thread. Its just easier to work with when its smaller.
Dave

One more question first please? Does it matter what time of day to take cuttings, as to sap and moisture content?

Sorry if this was covered earlier. And yes, please start a new thread when changing topics.

Thanks so much!

Of course Dave will know better but I've always heard it's best to do it in the morning, when the stems are still turgid.

Rob you are correct that the mornings are prime time to take cuttings. I try my best to take them in the am as it cooler and easier to work as well as getting better results. I believe that cuttings taken in the afternoon especially in the heat mid summer take longer to root out due to stress put on the cuttings. I know we used to take cuttings in the nursery all year round but that was zone 9/10. I feel it was more zone 10 due to its proximety to the gulf of mexico. It is best to give the cuttings some shade from the direct sun as well, 25% - 30% is my prefered shade for propagation purposes.
Thank you for the input rob. I feel this is more a disscussion than a dictatorship as I have seen a couple run that way. No one knows everything. Just my opinion.
Dave

Dave, I've used the bubbler and seen the aeroponic setup but haven't tried it. I found it really interesting and am looking forward to the discussion on it. Thanks so much for this opportunity.

Also, as a former dial-uper I think the folks still using it will love you for it.

Jeanette

I will start the new thread on monday that way I am fully recovered from all my acrobatics Ive done over the past few days.... Just kidding its been a bit of recovery from over doing it a bit last week. I guess all questions have been answered. except of course the meaning of life... mayo or miriacle whip, margerine or butter ....parkayyyy...
Dave

LOL!

Here's another, "One more question", LOL.

I just finished 5 trays, 2-Japanese Pittosporum, 1- Winter Honeysuckle, 1- Carolina Jessamine and the last was a Confederate Jasmine. The Jasmine had white sticky stuff so I placed the cuttings in water & H2O2--it really didn't help. Should I have waited for them to dry? I assume I contaminated the mix, correct? Should cuttings that weep only use the powder form?

Thanks again,
Vi

That was a good question. I've wondered about that too with my jasmine. So far, I'm only getting about 50% of mine to root. Maybe I am taking the cuttings too early.

Ibartoo, I would love to trade some things. Maybe you could d mail and tell me some things you are looking for, and I'll send a list of some stuff I have.

I too have had problems with confederate jasmine. I never thought about letting it callous, but it makes sense. I have taken cuttings at all times of the spring and summer and had less than ideal rooting success. Maybe I will try letting some callous now and see if that makes a difference.

Lorraine, I would be happy to trade, I don't really know of anything in particular I am looking for right now, I will grow just about anything I can get my hands on. LOL I will check your list, just let me know what you would like.

I have found that it is best to let any plant that "weeps" Milky juice, like Jasmine, Poinsettia, etc or succulents, dry several hours or overnight before trying to root them. For these type plants, I use a loose well draining soil mixture rather than water.

Rats, I wonder if I should pull them out, recut, let dry and try again? It seems hard to use up that dip-n-grow!

Howdy: It makes sense to let it dry. we never did though and got great success, but this was on a mist bench with great sun and optimum conditions. I have not tried letting the cuttings dry from the sap. I would go a head and let the cuttings stay VI. I always use a small amount of mixed hormone so I don't worry about contamination. as long as your stock is healthy there should not be an issue and even if one crops up a little fungicide will usually knock it out. I will check a couple of reference books on sappy cuttings and get back to you. I have one on poinsettias produced a long time ago by the poinsettia patent holders. I would think they would have the correct info. Good call azalea, TY.
Dave

I am fortunate to have a long fence covered with Conf Jasmine - the most successful and easy way to propagete more is to let the lower branches be on the ground, I scratch off part of the outer layer and use a U shaped wire or a rock over that to keep it in the soil. Then in a few weeks, you will have roots there and can cut it off the Momma plant. Much simpler than trying to keep the soil and water right in pots, at least for me. I am basically lazy and let Mother Nature take care of the 'feeding" requirements. I have tried rooting cuttings, but never was succesful.

I am trying that aproach with a huge pink madavillia. It too is sappy but the stems are so long between the nodes it makes propagation almost impossible. I guess I could just totally whack it back and get the shorter nodes from the inner plant. Oh well time will tell on what I end up doing. Hey is it as beautiful a weather pattern there as it is here? lows in the 50-60s high's upper 70s - lower 80's sweet.Its gonna be a rough winter. Look for the new thread monday. I will post the link. I am recovering from last week. I have health issues and it takes me a few days to get right enough to crank out one of my long winded technical discussions.
Thanks to everyone for your patience
Dave

I just wanted to add my 2 cents on the one thing I'm always successful with: succulents. I ALWAYS let the cuttings dry for at least a few days before potting them up.
Hope this helps!

Got a question and it just dawned on me that this is what this forum is all about:

My sister gave me a lantana today, not big, in a pot, but winter is coming and she doesn't winter things over. I have never had one before so I don't know what those things are that look like they should have seeds to ripen. OR, should I take cuttings. I would like to start several small plants in case I lose the mother. Also, the same with verbena. I have several but I can't find the seeds. I put a little bag over one but there was nothing there when it dried up.

Anybody know? Jeanette

If there was nothing in there it hasn't been pollinated....right?

I don't understand the question. What do you mean?

I don't understand the question. What do you mean?

Or, were you talking to me?

Jeanette

Lantana is one of the fastest plants to do cuttings of - take a simple stem with two set of adult leave and the branch tip. Cut off the branch tip all the way to the second set of leaves. Pinch off the bottom set of the two sets of leaves. Place in a moist rooting mix and keep in part shade until rooted - keep moist and this time of year in a sunny window indoors.

4 weeks later - roots galore.

If anyone does a lantana cutting ,could you maybe take a picture of it.? I swear, I've never gotten one of them to root and everyone tells me how easy it is! I've got to be doing something wrong.

How about butterfly bush? Are they easy to root from cuttings?

I used lantana in the demo with pics. its the yellow one....LoL
Rob you are correct as well as Mitch. they self pollinate like rabbits (ooops the butterflies pollinate them....lol)and they are one of the easiest to take cuttings from. the seeds look like peper corns only shiney
Verbena is quick as well.
Vi ... I have a bunch of different small plants I hope to winter over my only catch to this is if we get hit with a bad snow storm followed by a longer than normal cold spell. But I like to live on the edge.
I have not done any butterflybush but I would think it would be easy as well. I always like the 3 color bush. the magazines make it sound so magical...hmmm they wouldn't have gone to the trouble to graft them... naaaa too small a stem.
I will apolagize if my humor is a bit off tonight as I am a bit off key myself.
have a great evening
Dave

LOL, Rob, NOW I got the question. You are right!! But, someone else on another thread said that she gets the seeds from the verbena but each flower head has only one seed and it is hard to find in all the chafe. Now I am going to have to go back and ask her if she meant the whole head with the small flowers. Maybe I misunderstood, but I doubt it since she said they were so hard to find in all the stuff.

Thank you Mitch!! Now I am excited to try this. Lantana and verbena sure look a lot alike. The flowers. So, it only makes sense that they would also be easy to start. This year there are so many beautiful colors in verbena here. You guys probably have had them for a long time, but we sure haven't.

Going to try it tomorrow. Jeanette