I think I killed a couple of my Echies. I gave all a drink of SuperThrive & water & let 'em soak but should have bailed out the Echies after 20". Will post pics tomorrow, been painting today and can barely type.
Maggie
Fairy's Perennial Co-op pictures, chat and misc convo
Mags, pull the plug of the pots or cells and roll the root balls in newspaper to dry them out and either leave them bare nekked overnight or repot them in dry soilless mix, whichever seems like the better idea.
It worked once for me. :)
Suzy
Suzy,
They are in poop pots. Should I just wrap the pots in paper?The idea of digging them out of the soft pots worries me- but I'll do it if that's what they need oh great Seed Goddess! I can also rest the pots on my super wicking Florida sand. All around them was dryish and looked better after watering.I must confess I have been watering them w/ temps on the deck in the 80's. All around them was dryish and looked better after watering. Oh Lord it's bloody hot already! Can't walk @ 10A w/o being drenched in sweat! The idea of digging them out of the soft pots worries me- but I'll do it if that's what they need oh great Seed Goddess!
Thanks,
Maggie
joycet-LOL-I meant memorial day!! Labor day-OMG would they be root bound by then!!
dmac-you had said cowpotted, but I didn't see them-was confused, but think you meant that you were going to cow pot them...
Yes-all of mine are in cowpots-still trying to figure out the best way to ship 1 lonely tapestry in it's pot w/o jumbling it too much...looking for the perfect box...
The echies aren't in the photo, I did them after the heucheras and grasses. The 2 echies are in cowpots outside on the window sill under the eaves. We've been having more rain days or even just short outburst here and there so I didn't want them to get soaked repeatedly.
I know what you mean about the perfect box:lol: I'm mailing one baby hosta, thankfully, only to VA but once I get back to work at wm I'm sure I'll find a decent box with all the freight I'll be dealing with there:lol: I saved some packing peanuts to go around the leaves and I'm thinking of just saran wrapping over the top of the cowpot in 2 pieces, around the hosta base and taping it around the sides to hold the dirt in. Never packed a plant with soil before....I guess I should read that plant packing Sticky in the plant trade forum:LOL:
Maggie, you won't really be digging them out -- just upend the pot and the plug will come out whole (along with a shower of soilless mix, or whatever you use.)
What I do is put a styro cup over it-or-I get a styro cup big enough for the whole thing to go in-pack it w/ peanuts or paper inside the cup-then put the lid on it-w/ a couple small holes-then package around the cup and voila-it usually doesn't move if you put fragile & this way up on the box-but if you do get the stupid mail person that throws it around, the cup has kep the dirt from going all over the box...that is what I do-I have a sleveof 20oz cups and lids just for this...that is when I send in a pot-otherwise I shake off all the dirt, wrap the roots in a wet PT, then tape a baggie onto the PT and pack w/ peanuts or paper...
Thanks!
Hey-I just got an email from Dutch Gardens and didn't know if anyone was intersted in their sale?? There are 3 things that I want from there-Nippon Lily, Color Changing Dahlia & Miscanthus Huron Sunrise-and the plants are like 50-70% off, so for those it is $18, but then another $8 in shipping-didn't know if anyone wanted to get something and share the shipping costs.....
Heres some of the Co-Op babies!! They look real good!
julie
Margaran ,
leave the plants in the poop pots to mail..they are as light as air and the roots have probably grown into the pot!! i would not remove them. it actually is the perfect pot for mailing..Light and malleable.
When it reaches it's destination i would put the peat pot into a one gallon with soil mix to grow on or into the soil!!
Good Luck
julie
Julie-they look so good!!
Julie,
Umm, I'm not mailing them anywhere, I'm keeping each and every one! We were talking about ways to rescue Echies I drowned. ;-)
I pulled my cowpots out of the tray and they all had a bloom of mold on them. I took them out of the tray and set them on the deck to get some direct sun and air circulation to the outsides of the pot.
Maggie
Maggie-echies are supposed to be drought talerant plants, so I think you are watering them to death:( Let em dry out a bit and keep them just watered-know what I mean?? Maybe give em some fertilizer or root stimulator after they dry out-remember-stick your finger in the soil-if it is dry, then water them...darn tempermental things!!LOL
here is a pic DH took today-He makes me proud (a little veclempt)
.Heuchera Lime Rickey http://davesgarden.com/products/market/view/105/
Someone was looking for this.
Maggie
Thanks!
Hey-how do I get to that marketplace section!! I didn't even know that was on here!!
Fairy-
Here is the link you need on top. For FR, if you go to the specific link and then look at the address in the address bar on your screen, you can probably decipher how far you need to backtrack. I have edited out the "http" at the beginning of each of these addresses so you could see the format rather than just the hyperlink.
Link to the page of general DG departments
://davesgarden.com/products/
Link to the Marketplace
://davesgarden.com/products/market
Link to Lime Rickey
://davesgarden.com/products/market/view/105/
Hope this helps,
Maggie
OK-so it is under products & sources tab-THANKS!!!
It should also be on your homepage. It should be above all your sidebar tabs and say the DG marketplace is now open or something like that. :~)
OK-thanks-I did check it out-not so much my cup of tea as what is on there, but just as I keep an eye on co-ops and classifieds, this will now be on my list of things to keep an eye on....
Well, I managed to save a few things last night...the echies of course! and some others but we had some weird line of thunderstorm cells roll through and the local weather people went apeshit. I swear they're vultures and ghouls just waiting for their time to shine in bad/extreme weather situations. Ended up with 2-3 tornado touchdowns in and around the area, crazy wind, machine gun fire rain and of course, hail the size of golf balls. Looks like the perennials I had in the cowpots made it OK, just a lot of soil riled up. My Phlox David is shredded, I lost the tops of 4 Triumphator lilies. Of course this all went down between 11pm and 1 am. Small losses all things considered. I'll post some photos later after I get the loaded and sized.
The weather ghouls are predicting another of the same storm cells to pass through on Sunday...oh joy! At least I'll know to bring everything in.
Maggie, I was one of the people who wanted Lime Ricky, but I started reading the heuchera forum (who even knew there was a Heuchera forum??? there are to many forums here, I can't keep up!) and they said Lime Ricky isn't a good grower for most people and that Key Lime Pie is the one to get for that color -- they went into other choices, but I forget them all now, so I changed my wish to Key Lime Pie...I like both names, though. :))
Suzy
Glad everyone is ok! I hate tornado's!
here is my plants after my DH packed them at the packing party!
i luv how he did it!
Yes-I have talked with several that had them VERY close, so glad to hear you are OK dmac-a few plants can be replaced-you can not my dear....((()))-hugs for your safety...
Suzy-my MIL has the key lime pie & LOVES it-it is her fave!!
Dori-can I rent Dale to build me something??;)
Thanks=)
Suzy,
I have about 40 different heucheras/heucherellas/tiarellas. The only ones that did not make it through the winter are Lime Ricky (all 4 starts of it) and mint frost (3 starts). I also have Key Lime Pie--which was about 10 feet from the Lime Ricky. It is such a cute darling mound. It looks as though it has been trimmed to be a nice perfect shape. Also, if you have problems finding the Key Lime Pie, Heucherella "Strike It Rich Gold" is just about the same color and made it through the zone 6 winter just fine. I have it in 2 different places, one protected and one in the wide open.
I've got Lime Ricky ordered again as i refuse to be beaten by a plant, however this year it will be very, very well mulched and in a different area--or since I'm ordering 6 plugs, I may put 3 in two different areas and see what happens.
Dmac--I'm glad you are okay. I know it hurts to see your babies torn up like that. We were very fortunate to "just" receive 5 1//2 inches of rain in less than 24 hours. Major flooding here again, and expecting to start again tomorrow night. It's very frustrating.
I wish you well on the upcoming storms.
Glad everyone is ok after all that crazy weather!
Satacey:My coop babies are coming right along...everyone has new growth, but will stay in their little pots until we brick up a little bed in the front shady part.
My porch has been taken over by lil pots and trays of seedlings waiting for it to warm up a bit, or their permanent homes to be finished.
We're getting up early and getting stone for the front island and possibly the front bed -if I can talk the boy into it ;p
Oh, Donna/dmac, and Joyce, too, what awful weather! Hail is some of the worst! So destructive!
I saw the red on the map, but I didn't know anybody who would be in the bands, you know? We know where people are by state, but not where their little dot on the map is.
Suzy
Hi Suzy,
Just for the record, I am about 60 miles south of Effingham on rte 57. Also, I am about 55 miles northwest of St. Louis, which is why it is a lot easier for me to go into Missouri for big shopping trips. We don't have a lot here in Southern Illinois except for cows and cornstalks!! We are in Marion County.
Joyce
Angel-I am glad that your babies are doing well!! My tiarella is coming right along-has about 8 new leaves on it so far-phew!! That was the one I was most afraid with...
Joyce-how are the hands???
Thanks everyone:) I'm glad everyone made it through in one piece too. I'm hoping that the storms they're forecasting for Sunday aren't as bad or bypass everyone altogether.
Suzy, you should have seen my face when I was watching the weather ghouls and they mentioned a bunch of streets on my side of town and then specifically my street and saying "take cover". I'm definitely not cut out for extreme weather:LOL:
Oh yeah, the plants are no big deal in the "big picture"--I'm thinking that the lily seedlings with the broken tops will be able to build their bulbs up instead of putting out that one flower they might have:) Maybe I can try to grow some of the mutant size bulbs like Buggy Crazy=)
I looked at my echies and they seem to be doing OK. I bought one Lime Rickey locally, not a big one but it was reasonable. I think I'm getting about 4 more plugs somewhere else but only if they get enough orders. Is heucherella similar to Heuchera? I'm not familar with many of the perennials in some of these co-ops so I try to get stuff that is sort of smaller scale or that I think I can grow in a container.
I have a lot of heucherellas and to me they are just about the same as heucheras, with their leaves being more pointy. Tiarellas are even more pointy than heucherellas. I haven't really seen any difference in growing them.
My right hand is doing really good. I still have problems doing a lot of things and can't handle much weight, but overall I'm really happy. When I get the left one done is when I will be down and out. That one has a big ganglion cyst on it and will have to be put in a cast for 2 weeks afterwards.
Thanks Joyce! I may have to branch out then and try the heucherellas and tiarellas.
Good to hear that your hand is recovering well. Hope the other hand goes well and heals quickly.
Heucherellas are a cross between tiarells and heucheras-mainly the difference s the leaf shape.
WE are getting a group of us together to get some neat coleus from bakers acres and have 3 spots open-these are some beauties that I have never seen before and I am driving 3 hrs. to get them!! Take a look at their site www.bakersacresgreenhouse.com and also at the thread http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/841886/ and LMK...
Joyce glad to hear you are faring well!! If I lioved closer I would help you in the garden with your hand MIA for a bit, but alas, I am about 8 hrs. away...I am dmailing you right now!!
Heucherellas are also sterile. There are two (maybe on the market, maybe not) that are fertile, but they have green leaves.
Heucherellas are also harder to grow, and Tiarellas are a better bet unless you have ideal conditions. I got this passage for The Primrose Path, an independent hybridizer & TC lab in PA. He does NOT grow the yellow ones with the red heart like Sunspot, so I don't know if those are hard to grow or not. I have one, and it's taking its sweet time coming up, but it is up.
http://www.theprimrosepath.com/Featured_Plants/Heucherella/heucherella.htm
"Unfortunately for gardeners Heucherella have proven generally to have neither the wide adaptability to environmental extremes or the vigor of either Heuchera or Tiarella. When they are grown under pampered conditions as well-fed, protected potted plants or outside under relatively even climatic conditions like those in the Pacific Northwest, Heucherella grow well. However, where plants are grown under less than ideal conditions and given hot, humid summers like those in the eastern US, there is often a serious dieback ("meltdown") problem, with the plant reduced to small crowns surviving around a dead center by late summer. If these small crowns are divided and replanted, they will form new clumps for next year. We have not trialed all of the new Heucherella at The Primrose Path, but of those that we have grown, only 'Quicksilver' has been completely free of this dieback problem."
I forgot to say that I wish I had gotten every single Heuchera on the list. Drat! That Frosted Violet seemed so expensive that I didn't get the other one(s), but it is growing gangbusters and was really worth the extra money it cost. Darn darn darn! I am just kicking myself!
Suzy
hmmm-thanks for the info Suzy!!