Plants I have for Newcastle Swap

I wouldn't mind a couple of Claytonia Siberica if you have time to pot them up Gordon.

No prob! I guess I'll do a dozen and see who wants it.

I know there will be at least 6 people who are just starting their gardens looking for freebies at the plant swap.

Gordon, please save one for me, PPPPPPlease.

There are 100s and 100s! I think I can save you one or two. I would go back there now, but waiting on a call for some amorphophallus ! Can't miss that one!!

My whole concern about the devils club thing is according the the Washington Wetland Rules Devils Club is FAC+ meaning that 66% of the time it is associated with a wetland. Claytonia siberica is FACW+ meaning it is found in a wetland 99% of the time. Good call on the claytonia, I have not seen that one.

I would hate to see NWG run afoul of the wetland regulations. Probably the occasional DC is OK, but lets not have him deforest the place, he would have a problem defending himself.

Rob, I am worried now about the Devils club. I live in a wetland area, is this good or bad? My back yard borders 40 acres of wetland I have enough problems with the natives. I dont realy know what it is, I'm a dummy should of look it up first.

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I don't think you will have invasive problems with Devils Club it is only a plant occasionally seen. It typically does not like to sit in the water, but up on the wet side slopes above streams. It likes to have the water moving by its roots, but not soaking in them.

But personally I would look more into what it wants in culture, as I know nothing about growing it. I just know what it looks like, where it lives and can look up its regulatory status.

Wi'll do before I take that chance.
Thanks
^_^

Here is my personal devils club experience. The farm has had devils club growing here since who knows when. It grows in the thickest part of the woods, about 20' from the creek. Most patches are under trees but some are in the open. My dad eraticated most of it. I didn't take a look everywhere, but found one clump that was three main plants(trees?) very large. I took the smallest one and planted it under the doug fir by the house. It is just leafing out. Sorry for the crap pic, just ran out and took some pics.
I am confused about side branch cuttings. Look at the thing, not to many side branches! But the leaves do grow that way. Should I take a lateral leaf cutting? And what about doing root cuttings? It spreads thru its root system. Had to axe this one to seperate it from the other two left. And as you can tell it is doing fine.

Here is a closer view of the opening leaves.

Don't know if you can see this one. Just trying to show the size of the devils club. And this was the small one. What if I brought a big one and then try and do cuttings there. Whatever is left I will throw in the truck.

Oh! Got the a. kongak Rob. Picked up 6 nice size bulbs and potted them up. One for you buddy, if your wife and son don't mind the smell! I am willing to part with two more!!

Oh, my!

One thing that you could do with the O horridum, is to do air layering. Basically cut a diagonal slice under the branch with a knife, and prop it open with a pebble or twig, spread rooting hormone on the side of the slice and the bark, then wrap the pup in moist sphagnum moss, wrap in plastic and seal air tight with tape, partially taping the tree, to keep it in place. Wait 4-6 weeks for good measure, and remove rooted cuttings from the plant.

Anyway Gordon, could you take some plants to the Newcastle swap for me? I have some Forsythia starts I can pot up, along with a sedum you have to see to believe, more rudbeckia 'goldsturm' (black eyed susan). I also have some tall shasta dasies if any are interested.

What I am looking for is shade garden plants for the north side of my house. Hostas, basically anything that can handle real shade close to the house. I am not picky right now, as its all grass and moss that needs mowing. I am going to just mound some compost 2-3 feet high, and plant in it. The area gets very wet whenever it rains, and I am wanting to get above the pool.

I'm thinking the cuttings refer to the lateral branches off the main trunk. But those don't look like they have that many lateral branches yet. I can wait. I was thinking you had a larger clump than that. Since we are basically trying to preserve this species, not wipe it out, I don't think you are running afoul of any regulations.

Gordon,
I am willing to wait along with Pix for your devils club to get some more branches :0)

Don't forget, I have a flat of seeds that I hope will germinate. Sometimes they do take a long time, I understand.

Pixy, I am sending you mail....

Looks like I'll have a few myrica gale or sweet gale. It's native. Needs to stay moist.

Also, I have some blue lithodora established, but now I don't think I want a ground cover where I have it. I can bring some for anybody who's interested.

Kathy - welcome back! Hope your trip went well.
I could use the lithodora unless it has been spoken for.
Also - want a ride on Sat? let me know. Oh coffee, too!

Kate - Thanks so much. I'm exhausted, but got all the necessaries done. Whew!!

Yes, yes, and yes. There is enough lithodora for more than one - I love the blue, but I hate to weed under it. I'd love to go together on Saturday and coffee is a MUST. Same place to meet up? We just have to figure out what time . . .

Okay, got seedlings for you all. Taking names for those who want them. Here is a list. rachel is the pixytrain. You may have received some at Rachel's house, but maybe they have not survived, or maybe they didn't turn out to be what I thought they were, right Kayte? Some of these are perennials which will need to live in pots for a year before planting out in the general garden.


https://www.anniesannuals.com/signs/p%20-%20r/petromarula_pinnata.htm
http://www.anniesannuals.com/signs/n/nepeta_tuberosa.htm
http://www.anniesannuals.com/signs/p%20-%20r/puya_alpestris.htm (takes 3 years or so to bloom, needs to be in a pot. Zone denial to zone 9 plant)
Helenium atumnale
Nicotiana 'perfect mix' from select seeds
Aquilegia flatulala nana
Lotus crassifolius oteyensis http://www.anniesannuals.com/signs/p%20-%20r/puya_alpestris.htm
Datura 'black current' - 2 taken already

Other plants:
Climbing rose Bobbie James
Philadelphus delavayi var. purpurescens
Baby smoke trees from my trees
Empress Tree
Golden Chain tree (2)
Water oak
Betula utilis
Native dogwood that makes a small tree or a large shrub. Mine is a beautiful tree. It's the one between the sheds on my property. Now the star of a woodland garden.
snakebark maple - acer cappillaris
Ribes sanguineum - the native one, rooted cuttings from my shrub.
Also may have some rooted hydrangea cuttings to send. Will check on Friday.

Dmail me if you want your name on anything.


Forgot to put that I have a couple of waterlilies if anyone is doing a water garden. They grow nicely in a barrel, too.

also forgot to put Chenopodium - strawberry sticks



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Also I have one Echium wildpretti that should bloom this year.

I still have these available for this Saturday.

4 Potentilla 'Melton's Fire'
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/38363/

4 everbearing strawberry

1 Lemon Balm

1 verbena bonariensis
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/141/

3 Artemesia Oriental Limelight (keep in pot or contained)
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/48861/

2 grape hyacinth

2 bellis rosa
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/55846/

Here is my list please dmail me if you would like me to tag anything for you.

2 Madrone

4 Crocosmia (pretty sure it's Lucifer)

6 Erythronium oregonum http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/56620/

8 unknown name heath/heather

I will be working in the yard again tomorrow so will probably be posting more tomorrow afternoon.

Wish I could come, but my mom is coming to visit this weekend. I have some things set aside for a few people to get to you sometime. 4 lambs ear for TIlly (also sunflower seeds for your granddaughter), a saxifrage for Susy, Crimson flag lily for Willow.

Jburesh, I would love to have a potentilla Melton's fire sometime. Do they seed every year or do you take clippings to root? Your yard is lovely. I hope you do this another year also so I can have a chance to see it.

Holly - will you be at Dragonfly on the 27th? One of us could do transport and hold plants for you. Enjoy your weekend with your Mom!!

That reminds me - Mary, I'll have to find a way to get your dogwoods to you that weekend.

I can take Willows if someone can get it to me, going to her place on the 30th If that is Okay with you Willow.

maury,

potetilla is perennial in my yard and has really nice color. I can give to Katie if she can get it to you.

Rachel, would love some heath and Erythronium oregonum.

Have you down for it J :0)

You all have a wonderful yard to visit tomorrow, though I didn't take time to look around, it looks most inviting Jburesh!

I left 3 boxes JBuresh: one for you, two for Rachie because she's so special ;) and one shared box for Pixy and Katye's stuff. All are packed for blizzard/rain/freeze whatever Mother Nature dumps on us tonight. Jackie I stole two of your rocks to anchor down a plastic bag cover.

Jackie and Rachel: speaking of invasives.... in the 'large leafed hostas' watch like hawks for burgundy red emergences from that hosta area- wherever you plant them. I planted my shade beds directly in the evil ever-growing patch of Japanese Knotweed and it is constantly emerging, easily removed, but very tough to kill off. So fair warning: if you see it, kill it, and try to get the root as well.

Have fun everyone!

Thanks for noticing! I've definitely been working hard and getting my yard in perfect condition for the swap. I'm rewarded with 45 degrees and possible snow. hhrumph!
:)

Good thing Gardeners are hardy folk and willing to come anyway!

Annie- I will keep an eye out for the evil knotweed, thanks again for all of the goodies!

Tomorrow would be an excellent day for all the gardeners present to jointly make sacrifices to the weather gods. Such a concentration of good will and gardening energy could not be ignored. At least do some kind of chanting and/or prayer circle! I will be with you in spirit.

I'm always up for chanting!! Not so sure about the sacrifice part (does it have to be a painful parting for it to truly be a sacrifice?)

I'm not sure that I'm the one who is supposed to get that plant, but if I am you are welcome to bring it. And thank you MHF, it sounds like a beautiful plant.

If Gordon ever gets here today, I have 3 Forsythias, 2 Crocosmia 'Lucifer', and I believe 3 R. f. 'Goldstum' for you all to enjoy. I have no cultivar name for the Forsythias, these are just self-rooted branches that were growing. Its a medium size shrub (5' tall?) that is quite nice, but watch out for the self rooting branches.

Okay, I know I will feel foolish the minute I read the answer, but what is R.f. 'goldstum'?

Katie, I would like to go on the Dragonfly tour on the 27th. It's a busy weekend, but if all works out, I'm planning to make it. So hopefully I can get plants to people then, and I would be grateful if you could transport the potentilla for me.

Thanks Jburesh, for that idea (and the plant). Do I have anything you might like? brass buttons, wooly thyme, lingonberry, June bearing strawberry, or pink panda ground-cover strawberry?

Pixy, It is Rudbeckia fulgida Goldsturm or something or other...A black eyed susan....