My babies today. New sprouts every day. I am so excited. These I potted last week in 4" peat pots. They certainly do grow at different speeds.
Brugs from seeds?
By Jorge! Marie, what type of brugs are those? Wow, merely one week? Oh wow!!! I assume you didn't even need grow-light, just from a bright window sill? Do tell.
Kim
OK, just so you don't misunderstand, these are from seeds that I planted Jan 26th, potted them up from my seed tray last week, Feb 25th. I do have them under grow lights that I have kept on 24 hrs a day. The light from the window helps also. I got some from Tricia's Garden store (The red Brugs), and several different from Seed Sprout Nursery. Also some from very generous DG friends. I am very excited. I couldn't find rock wool, I was going to try that next. Today I put some seeds in baggies and damp paper towels under the grow lights. I am having fun!
This is part of my set-up.
Do brugs bloom the first year? Mine are about 4 inches tall now - will I have to wait another year for blooms?
Seandor... well it depends on which one you have..many will bloom the first year... I start off with a bunch of organics.. including a composted dehydrated cow manure to get it growing strong...then repeated bloom booster type later in the late spring /summer to get the plant tinking of flowering.. I also spray with other items to secure a blooming mentality in the plants... Messenger..and at www.sprayngrow.com for the spray-n-grow ...their fert. /spray-n-grow combo coctail is helpful...every few weeks...plenty of bloom booster type ferts in between.. did I mention feeding them heavily.. this is a seedling form the winter before.. it had the thickest trunk on any I've grown out.. It's a Hawaiian Double White in it's first year from seed.. . container grown on the roof... full sun 6AM -8 PM..
actual milage will differ
Gordon
here's another picture of that HDW (a cross with L'Amour ...from Brenda.., Thanks there Brenda.. she's the strongest of any) the pink one next to it is a Dark Rosetta cross... that isn't very dark... it's a first year seedling also... the shredded white in the corner...to the right of the pink one is 8 years old.. I can't remember who the one on the right is...I'm thinking it's a Serendipity X..... in which case it is also a first year baby..
Here... the planter area available to any plant is about limitless in a 10 ' long horizontal planter.. although they can't grow down very far.. they still see it as big... deep and wide... able to send roots out 4-5 ft... or more.. and it dries out to the depths real fast...cycling is a growth spur.. I alwyas expect flowers the first year...and have become a bit miffed if they don't bloom..
let's grow big... too much water.. too much sun.. food and addatives galore...
Gordon
This message was edited Mar 2, 2008 8:13 PM
Thanks Gordon,
I have not idea what the cultivars are - basically these are NOIDs from swaps, so as they cost me next to nothing, they really don't owe me any blooms this year . . . . but I do have a lot of them . . . so I wanted to know what to say to prospective adoptive parents.
Very nice Gordon!!! Then there is hope for the rest of us who are planting seed.
LOL Gordon. You are so funny. We all know how you spoil your plants. And what fantastic results you do get! I am going to try to force feed more this year. Last year I pooped out. I love your pictures. Do you still have snow?
Marie, your plants are doing so great. Those babies look beautiful. You do not need rockwool for you are doing just great without it! I have a similar seedling table. It really helps! I just bought mg seeds to get going.
Kell, a question on the rockwool, do the roots peel easily from the rockwool? I always worry they will get stuck to it!! Thanks!
Laurrie
If I have the little feeder roots I leave it on around them and just take the outside off. Though you can leave it all on and just bury it in the soil. It really depends how long you have left them in it before replanting in soil and how many roots have developed. If the roots are all thru it and I have left them for a long time till they are big, I just plant them with it.
With clivia, it just peels off the roots are so big and fat.
I like it becuase it is clean and so easy. I bag them up and then do not touch them again until they are ready to pot into soil. No watering, no anything.
Thanks so much, ordered some but wasn't sure about "how" they came out of or off the rockwool, that answered my question, now I know it's safe to leave a little on the actual roots if need be, thanks Kell :0)
On 01-09 08 I planted the 15 brug seeds
On 27 Feb 08 I asked the ques of this thread
On 28 Feb,, the first speck of green appeared (by now it is about 3 in.)
since then 2 more have sprouted and been moved on to their own pots....
today Mar. 13 another spec of green is showing....so..the moral to this story is: germination time sure does vary. As soon as I get someone to download my photos I hope to add the pic of the first sprout to this thread and then I'll keep my fingers crossed (and say a prayer) that it is a brug.
Last winter I nursed corkscrew vines thru many trials..5 eventually sprouted.....ended up with one out of 15 seeds to plant out by the time sprin came ....well....it ended up being the snail vine...but I couldn't get rid of it since I went thru so much with it...I've been nursing it along all winter on my counter room divider....and don't know if it'll make it for sure till it can go out in May. I am ordering the plant this spring.....which I should have done long ago.
will have to get some rockwool and give it a try..I have a couple undred peat pellets and I really don't like them...I get too much green stuff on them.
I have certainly gleaned a lot of info from everyone here. thanks bunches. Helen
I planted 10 seeds a couple weeks ago.. have one little green sprout poking out of the peat pellet. Woo Hoo! My first to start. Soaked some seeds last fall and they sprouted in the cup but the water dried out one day before I could get them out. I know better than to wait now.. plant immediately if they sprout in the water!
Tammie
Hi fellow seed sowers...here is a pic of my NOID about to bloom. It stands about 6 ft now(including its pot) has 2 branches about 2 in from its bottom and the branch that has this biggest thing (pod?) has nine of different sizes
I think the other one has about 7. This one doesn't look to me like it will be pink though.
I have a 2nd plant growing..it is nowhere as big yet. Maybe it will turn out to be pink.
How about showing some of your results? I'd love to look at the pictures.
I just thought of something...that baby is taking 9 months.
Hope I get to see some of your babies
Helen
The previous pic is from last week...this on is from today
Helen
I've my very first seedling that reverted back to be identical like its parent. Here it's. (white Suaveolens x pink = offspring white and lovely).
Lily,that is so awesome...and so healthy looking!!!! my leaves are bad looking...the grasshoppers seem to like them plus some little black bug..
We had residual winds from Ike they said..fortunately my son got home in time to bring mine in. It is back out now and sunny today so I should get apic real soon. I hope it is as lovely as yours.
Hellen, your brug's buds look very robust. So I'm certain the flowers are going to be awesome as well. I'm looking forward to see your pix.
Kim
Kim even though it may look like mummy or daddy it is different (very pretty I might add) congratulations ...well done!
I only have my first bud (arborea) but we are just starting into a cool Spring ...hopefully we will have an Angel parade in the next few weeks.Don't forget that if a white bloom has pink in it's blood ...cross it back to a pink (like Equador pink/rubirosa) and usually from what I have read ...you will achieve pink Angels.
chrissy
Oh mine, mine! Chrissy, you've done it! I may just want to cross that baby once again with another pink brug in bloom! Ha, what do I know. LOL. Thank you, for the info. mate.
Kim
p.s. What will happen if we were to cross a double with a single? ab x c = tripple? (Wishful thinking here). ROFL.
From what I can read a double X a double mostly gives deformed blooms. (Yes how sad is that) so you take a hybrid with Parents you like and cross it back to a strong species type with the colour you are after to "enrich the genes" so to speak ...a good double crossed with a good single (look to the parents for strong colour).
Or cross with others that you enjoy.It's been said that the Suav Gene is mostly white so start breeding away from that if you want colour ...don't fret, every plant is unique when grown from seed.You have done so well and you have a gift for gardening ...I know you will have a go ...here look at my table this morning.
Chrissy...do you have a nursery? I've never seen so many seeds...we;; np..I guess if I saved datura seeds I might have that many/ Brugs are new to me this year and I have found that it was much more difficult to get one to grow than daturas are. mine had spider mites twice and the 2nd time I used a systemic spray on it and it lost all its leaves but I kept it and nursed it along on my kitchen counter and it finally got new leaves and grew,
Pictures are enclosed....it grew pretty tall and I love the flower size and shape,,,but...iy has no perfume. From what little I've read = if I were trying to make a hybrid--this one would go on the nulch pile....BUT...it won't....I'll keep it if I can. (Today the wind is up again so I have filled the top of the pot with rocks and tied it to the pergola and a trellis.) I have a 2nd smaller brug...about 4 ft....the wind already blew it over and broke off one 3ft branch........ fortunately it wasn't the branch with some flower buds forming on it.
Lily...your pink brug is a beauty also...good luck if you keep trying for a pinkie...I guess most any seed I try might turn out to be white...is that right,?
Close up view
Your seedling's flower is lovely too Helen. It's dependent upon which type of brugs that we cross with one another?
For instance, my seedling if crosses with another pink, next time it my yield pink -- I think that's what Chrissy has implied?
Gammy you poor thing ...no I don't have a Nursery but I want to share the Angel s with my friends and forum members.We don't have many colours here either so we want to change that.
I am unfamilar with your climate so I think Kim can advise you on how to care for your plant. You need another plant to make seeds ...there is lots of information about those in these threads.I would start with cuttings ...I am sure someone will offer you some cuttings /seeds ...I wish I could but I am way Down Under.
I knew nothing of seeds until reading these threads and that was just over a year ago so anyone can learn about making baby brugs/Angels ...it's getting the fancy ones that takes a bit of planning and a lot of luck ...but hey I think there are a lot of beautiful tough and reliable noids out there. It's the parents that you check out with the seed crosses ...we fall in love with the pretty pictures of crosses ...but if you are serious about colour/doubles etc ...study up on the ABADS and Brugmansia growers sites ...lots of wonderful information there ...I backtracked through these old threads here and went along with the exciting/frustrating journey to where Brugmansias are today ... many seeds you can purchase are crossed by experts to give you the best chance of something special ...even if they turn out to be white they will carry precious genes in them and you cross them on with some other special plant with great genes and there you will be able to expect something coloured ...if you are lucky you may get some straight up ...so good luck and enjoy your Angel Love.