Brugs from seeds?

Columbia Station, OH(Zone 5a)

How long will I have to wait till something sprouts?
At what point does one "cuss and stir?"
any advice would be appreciated.
last year I tried with no results...this year I did take the cork off first
(read to do that somewhere....probably while lurking on this forum)
Am really hoping to get one going this year...you all's look so beautiful.

Pensacola, FL(Zone 8b)

oh may take a few weeks but after about 2 months i would cuss and stir that is for sure............lol

Lodi, CA(Zone 9b)

Welcome to the Brug forum Gammy3!

They won't come up till you stop looking at them! LOL
Nah, just kidding.. but it sure seems to be true. Some seeds will come up in a few days, others a few months..

What kind of conditions are you starting seeds in... ie.. Light, soil, inside? etc. Can you post a picture? That helps a lot..

If you want seeds and brugs.. trust me.. we can make sure that happens here.. LOL

Victoria, BC(Zone 8a)

I agree... the germination times varies greatly. Good luck with your seeds! ;-)

Pittsburg, MO(Zone 6b)

Do you have to take the cork off first? If you don't will it take longer to germinate?

Well in mine took 10 days in about mid 60 F temps ...soaked the seed in warm water (as I read here in these forums) and then took to them with a nail clipper ...very very carefully, just nipped a bit at the side and then gently went in with my fingers, soaked them again for a couple of hours in warm (previously boiled water) and planted them in a mix that was almost pure washed river sand. Mine were all arborea so the germination was uniform. Good luck:)
chrissy

Lodi, CA(Zone 9b)

Here's how I do seeds...
I soak them for 12 to 24hrs in water (under the lights for warmth)
(I use 1 Tbs Household Peroxide & 4 to 6 drops Superthrive to a 1/2 gal of distilled water)
I peel the cork off my seeds, cause I'm in a hurry for them to germinate. :) They will still come up if you don't peel.. just takes a little longer, and it's been my experience that it is hard for them to drop the shell when they come up.
I put them in moist Sterilized seed mix (or just regular potting soil I bake in a crock pot to kill fungus gnat eggs) press them in the soil, but do not cover the seed with soil.
Cover the entire thing with either a dome or plastic of some sort for humidity. (I have started plenty with no dome, but then your inviting fungus gnats that will eat seeds)

I have also used a paper towel put the seeds on it.. fold it in 1/2 moisten it with the solution above and put it in a plastic bag under the lights.. then plant the sprouts about a week later..

It's been my experience that Brugs seeds will rot if you use a heat mat, unless they are outside in the cold.

There are several different methods.. do what works for you

Central, AL(Zone 7b)

Thank you Joyce, I'm printing your instruction out for future referrence. Gammy3, I've several questions regarding brugs' seeds I hope you don't mind that I post them here?

#1. Has anyone planted fresh seeds immediately after harvesting the seedpods - before allowing them to dry out? If so is the germination rate better compared to planting them later?

#2. If we plant them immediately, will that reduce the need of peeling the cord covering off?

Pittsburg, MO(Zone 6b)

It seems everytime I try to peel the cork off it tears the seeds in half, is there an easy way, ya know maybe I'm holding my mouth wrong or something? Out of 10 seeds, 1 didn't split apart. Should I soak longer? Some had nothing in it that I could see, it that normal?

Lodi, CA(Zone 9b)

It would be hard to describe in text... but I break off a corner at a time.. I've even used some really dull rounded tweezers to just grasp the outside edge.. and it's NOT easy.. I like to peel mine after they have soaked... Then the "bean" inside is plump and won't come apart so easy.. This is all with dried seeds..

Pittsburg, MO(Zone 6b)

Maybe I just need to soak mine longer in the H2O and H2o2 solution. I'm going to try it tonight.

Thanks so much for your help.

Lodi, CA(Zone 9b)

Some seeds are empty Robin... Even after a long soak... Never know!

Also, if I have some that are "stubborn" in getting hydrated.. I will break off a couple of pieces and then leave em to soak a little longer..

When I was at the other house.. I left the cups of water on the stove, there was an area on the stove top that was warmed from the pilot light, but not hot.. the warmth seemed to really plump em up.. Just soaking, not after they are planted..

Pittsburg, MO(Zone 6b)

Maybe I can find a place that would do that, at my other house it would haver been on the stove too, but have an electric range now. oh well. Maybe on top of the fridge would help or over a register.

Lodi, CA(Zone 9b)

Do you have lights set up for your seedlings? That is usually warm enough...

Pittsburg, MO(Zone 6b)

Yes I do, That's a good idea. I'll put the bowl there. Thank you.

Eureka, CA

Yeah, I was feeling like when I tried to peel the cork off I was most likely damaging the seed. So I ended up planting most of the seeds I harvested as "soaked but not peeled". We'll see I guess. I have some more I'm going to plant this weekend. These were pods from my Charles Grimaldi, most likely crossed with Frosty Pink. Maybe a few years from now I can let you know how they look! LOL

Sanna

Lodi, CA(Zone 9b)

I run out of patience and just plant them that way too Sanna... they do just fine.

Few years? No way! Hopefully this fall you will be posting pics of your babiez! Congrats on the pods!

Eureka, CA

Thanks for the encouragement!! I'm getting excited about this spring because a couple of plants I started from seeds a couple of years ago have finally Y'ed! (We're not really very warm here, but I think I finally found a good microclimate.) So ~ yeah, this summer should be the one!

Cave Creek, AZ

Now for the big question...
How long will it take from seedling to get a flower?
Mickey

Lodi, CA(Zone 9b)

I have one that I can think of that bloomed in 7 months... and some that take 2 years. Ya just never know.
If you fertilize enough and provide good growing conditions that's about all you can do. The rest is up to Mother Nature..

If you have several seedlings this month.. My bet is that you will at least have some blooms this fall..

Central, AL(Zone 7b)

Last year, I purchased some seedlings from fellow DGer around July. Today those babies are showing Y-formations. If it wasn't for the shock of having to move them indoor this winter(growing condition), these babies would have yielded flowers today.

Or would I have got those seedlings earlier in the season (last year), by the end of Oct. They would have yielded some flowers.

This is one of my Versicolor brugs that I nursed from 3-5" seedlings last late July.


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Eureka, CA

Very good looking!

(Tammie) Odessa, TX(Zone 7b)

Seeing seedlings like that gives me hope. LOL

Good work.

Tammie

Lodi, CA(Zone 9b)

Are you sure that's a seedling and not a cutting?
I'm sorry, but those look like side shoots to me.. Not a Y.

Central, AL(Zone 7b)

It could be a side shoot, ZZ, it's a seedling, I'm certain though. It's marked.

Kim from what I have learned the Y that is spoken of, is where the single stem suddenly becomes two (forks) or more and is no longer just the single stem, I hope I have described it correctly.
Don't worry it won't be too long to Spring mate :)
hi everyone how many sleeps?
chrissy

Pittsburg, MO(Zone 6b)

This might not be the best picture for seeing a Y but if you look at the top you can see one.

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Central, AL(Zone 7b)

Robynnest; nice one. Those blooms will be more prolific next spring I'm sure. About a Y-formation like this one?

Have any of your seeds show sign of germination? I'm getting ready to pot up some today. :-)
(question for Robin).

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Pittsburg, MO(Zone 6b)

This was it's first year to bloom, I was quite surprised that it did. The only pod I had on it fell off at the first sign of cold..

OK Kim you asked if anyone had experience planting fresh seed ...guess what was knocked off the tree by a fallen branch in the storm last night! I was very upset to find it lying on the ground this morning but after opening it I could hardly speak ...seeds!

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Central, AL(Zone 7b)

Ok, Chrissy, at a glance you've 100 seeds!!! Go girlfriend! Are you going to sow them soon?
Kim

Today *trembling* lol

Pittsburg, MO(Zone 6b)

Wow Chrissy, you scored big time on that one. Which brug is it?

Pensacola, FL(Zone 8b)

Wow congrats chrissy I hope it goes well for you!!

Central, AL(Zone 7b)

Let's race Chrissy, I'm potting a dozen of Whiskers x Inspiration today. (I've soaked them for couple of hours), then a dozen of White x peach/pink (from last harvest), then maybe a handful of a fresh seedpod same as above that I'll pick of the tree today. Woooohoooo!

Central, AL(Zone 7b)

Hi James, are you going to break the big news?
Kim

Pittsburg, MO(Zone 6b)

Hey James I see your zone now.

Pittsburg, MO(Zone 6b)

What big news?

Central, AL(Zone 7b)

Ok, James .....

Pensacola, FL(Zone 8b)

Hello Kim,

Sure am here is a picture of some seedlings starting to imerge from their pot the seeds I have planted these seeds that Lily_love sent to me on the 17th of January and the are already starting to grow....

James

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