WFF #2
I think I'm going to lose my Brugs! What am I doing wrong? 2
cuttings in WFF
close-up of cuttings in wff
roots are visible growing thru the wff---just plant the whole thing in your pot/ground...DO NOT attempt to remove the wff as it will stress the plant and roots. All my brugs have been planted this way and it doesn't inhibit the growth of them and/or other rooted cuttings.
auntb, well, we haven't had a recorded freeze yet, but we had scattered frost a few times.... not much damaged, tho.... cannas are still blooming, tho they look horrible. i just got some shredded white green brug cuttings, but while they were being mailed from 8a, they froze, but there still is a bit of firm wood, so i'll try to root that.
jan, that is a really good idea. i thing we have some in the garage from my grandma when she moved. i'll try that are those hardy hibiscus cuttings you have rooting
The peach versi blooms will hang down, pendulous-like.. Insignes Pink will kind of reach out a bit. I think most blooms start white or yellow and then turn their true color... The "stripes" running on the Insig bloom and the angle the plant holds it's bloom makes me think its Insignis P. Sorry to hear about Maya being stubborn.. you might try some heat at the bottom of the pot. And keep out of direct sun until you have a few leaves, sometimes the top of the frig works.. just an idea, I've lost cuttings in what I thought were the best conditions with others flourishing right beside the stubborn one...patience I think and extra tlc. We have freezing drizzle today, I would call it sleet. I slept in until 9 this morning. I'm all snug and cozy and warm! What a nice start to Saturday. I'll stay inside and get some cleaning I've been procrastinating on done.. or do something holiday fun.... Charlene, all my versi pics are on my work computer... Jan, that's a wonderful explanation and it seems like it's a lot easier and cleaner, too. Thanks for posting.
Jan, I noticed you have several pieces stuck in one block. Do you cut between them when you plant them? I also wondered if you keep the foam sitting in a little water or just occassionally add water?
I started the Maya out in water and have moved it to rooting pot of dirt. I just bought the wet foam and will give that a try on some new cuttings I have ordered of Maya.
I am convinced now that my brug is insignis pink. Is that a sauloven? What determines saulovens?
I hope you guys don't get tired of my new to brugs questions.
Thanks for all of you for helping me.
Charlene
GOOD MORNING I JUST WOKE UP
Suaves, as in Frosty Pink, Isabella, etc. are very common. There are so many "look alikes" it is nearly impossible to ID a brug by the bloom alone.
You can, however, visualize some of the different traits from the species by the shape and general characteristics of the bloom.
Here is a pic of Versicolor Peach. Notice how long and slender the corolla tube is.. and it hangs veritical.
Here is a picture of Frosty Pink.. (Suaveolens)
Here is Isabella.. another Suave... They don't hang quite as vertical.. the calyx (bud) doesn't cover the corolla tube the same as in a Versi.
It is fun to compare, and see the different species' traits in multi hybrids..
Insignis looks very similar, but is not sold as often as the others.
They all open and change to their true color as the bloom ages. Temperature, humidity, time of year, all enviromental conditions affect the intensity of the color... which may be lighter or darker at different times of the year.
Didn't mean to hijack your thread... just happen to have had pics handy and the time.. LOL Hope this helps!
Thanks for all of that info. Now I see why the coloring was different inside the house. Obviously the temperature was different from outside. It does differ from the versi peach considerably. It doesn't hang completely vertically. It points out slightly.
I really appreciate getting all of this information as I really want to learn about the brugs.
Charlene
yeah zz is real good with brugs.. it's nice to have such knowledgeable people around...
Charlene-
The piece of foam that has several cuttings in it are all the same plant (see response to "TL") and the roots "intermingle". I don't do that too often tho I just did it recently with my Sweet Potato Vines. Just cut all the top growth off and shoved the pieces in the same block of foam.
I keep the foam pieces on waterproof trays as they should not be allowed to dry out completely.
TL-
The cuttings are/were of "Red Shield Hibiscus" that I was rooting for a trade.
AuntB-
Hello!!! I love the success that I have with the WFF and my Maya, from you, is sooo pretty with her variegated foliage!
Jan
yeah.. i though i recognized them
...you've got a sharp eye TL!!!
thanks
I would love some advice on an order of brug cuttings that are coming my way. They are said to be
1 - 1/2 " in diameter. The only ones I have started have been smaller stem cuttings. Here is the list of what I am getting.
BRUGMANSIA Cuttings 3 each:
Butterfly
Dr. Suess
Ecuador Pink
Frosty Pink
Golfito
Isabella
Strawberry Cream
Super Nova
Tequilla Sunrise
I would love any advice. So far I have successfully rooted noid yellow and noid white in water. I have rooted favorite pink in soil mix and my poor maya started out in water and then I put in soil mix and it is actually looking like one cutting may be trying to survive the rough treatment it has recieved.
I did buy one of the wet foam blocks. Would this be the best way for them all? Should I cut the block into cubes to start them or put them in together? Any help is going to be appreciated.
I know this thread is about being afraid of losing a brug, but hey you guys have given poor little Maya hope for life and I trust you all.
Charlene
Hey Charlene!
There have been lots of methods for rooting cuttings in this thread.
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/793212/
I have been following it and learning lots from the much more knowlegeable than I am group, lol!
Best of luck with your cuttings. My Dr. Seuss and Frosty Pink cuttings rooted easily. I've not had experience with the others.
Bev
You can root your new cuttings in water just like the no id's. Just don't put them all in the same container.. use separate jars for each cultivar, just to be on the safe side... in case one has the cooties.. LOL You will be fine!
i do what ZZ does. except i let them get nubs and then put them in the soil and keep it moist until it is well rooted
Wow Charlene! That is a nice package! lol I'm still home, we're in an ice storm... It's supposed to get over 32 degrees tomorrow. I finally hooked up my camera.... here's little Alex just popped out- no color (ain't he cute?)
Here he is all colored up...
3 different brugs blooming in the "mole hole".
Oh AuntB!! What can I offer you for a cutting of Alex? A triple white? Sam? Anything! I'm sorry to beg in your thread.. I can't help myself.. I cannot be held responsible when you post a pic like that!
(Do you have any children capable of lifting heavy brug pots? lol) I've kept him growing this winter and I didn't share any last fall because I wanted as many cuttings I can get without cutting him to soil level and he's a youngin'. I'm going to try to have some cuttings next spring... You DO have some nice tradin' material... check in about Alex in Spring, I'm trying to have at least 4 or 5 cuttings to share with my special friends on this thread. If not in Spring, surely next Fall. I had to BUY him... I wanted him SO bad...and no one on 2 garden forums had any to trade. I think almost anything baby or miniature is so adorable... and brugs are no different (and he's pink). What I didn't cut this Fall, is starting to get to a semi-woody stage, so I'm hopeful for a spring trim. ZZ, I love your excitement. B
Too Cute!!
I understand AuntB.. I have much more that is worthy of a trade, but will gladly fork out the $ for Alex.. I wouldn't want to impose. I am glad you have plans to share.. that's what this is all about. Thank you for your response! That picture made me compromise my standards of not begging.. I'm sorry I was out of control. LOL
I have a perfect mate for it!! It too is a tiny one and is just starting to produce anything woody.. I am just weak in the knees for the mini brugs.. they just torture me. LOL
What does Alex smell like?
I just went and bought one! LOL What a dunce I can be! See what these things do to a person??
AuntB, my package was bought from flowerjunie here on the classifieds of DG. She only charged actual shipping cost and the cuttings were only $1. each. I felt that was quite generous. I am hoping they get here tomorrow. I have my glass jars of water sitting in a window that gets some light sunlight ready and waiting.
I am going to try the three cuttings of each kind of brug in three different methods.
First cuttings in the water.
Second cuttings in vermiculite with holes in the bottom of the cups and sitting in one inch of water.
Third cuttings in sandy soil mix and water from the top.
I think it will be interesting to see which works best and fastest.
My first choice for easy to root cuttings when I do a lot of them is to put them into foam cups full of vermiculite or perlite. I put holes in the bottom of them and put all the cups in a large tray of water and just keep water in the tray.
If the cuttings are harder to root I will put them in the same type of cups and put them in the aquarium and cover it to keep moisture in and set it in some light not too bright.
Rooting brugs is new to me, so I will experiment.
I will LYK how it goes.
Charlene
WOW---Charlene, you go girl! You've got a lot of good brugs and I am quite interested in how your 3 different rooting methods work. I actually had thought of buying some of the cuttings myself when I saw the ad, and the price, but didn't want to jeopardize what I've got growing now. Keep us updated on your progress...
AuntB---Way to go with the blooms! We got just a bit of the ice storm but nowhere as bad as you had. OK...WHERE'S THE GLOBAL WARMING?!?! I'm tired of Winter and it's not even "officially" Winter...yet:(
ZZ---We are (all) "Brug Addicts"...we've all "begged"...it's part of the addiction---don't be so hard on yourself! Please do keep us updated on your Alex...
Kim---how're all your babies doing?
later...Jan
Hello all,
Jan the babies are doing great!! I can hardly wait til spring. :)
I just got my cuttings from flowerjunkie - they are great and big, for each one I ordered she sent two and three... so I have them all in a light soil mixture with heavy sand. This is what I have been rooting other plants in will it work for Brugs too? I only have rooted a no name brug that was a gift a long time ago and roots soo easy it is not funny.
My one-inch thick cuttings, about a foot tall, are all in a plastic bucket in water with a little hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) to prevent rotting. I took them in October before the frost and now, six weeks later, they are putting out nubblies and roots. I think it's too early to pot them up, even in soilless mix and minimal watering/fertilizer. We're down to 8-10 hours of daylight now as we approach the winter solstice, and these babies are in my basement (cool and dark). I've recorded more details here: http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/793212/
I can't put these outside until May and don't want to encourage top-growth with grow-lights. How can I get the roots to develop well without leaves? Or should I accept that the leaves will grow to support/match the roots and then be replaced by new growth when they go outside? Should I pot them up now or wait? I know water-roots can be brittle and don't take well to potting when long.
Andrew
Charlene, you might want to keep them out of direct sunlight.. especially till they have new growth. Also it will cause algae.. it won't hurt them, it's just unsightly and a pain to clean out of the jars.
That sounds like it will work Mitch.. You can also just root them in a jar of a few inches of water, changed often. I've never used heavy sand, but IMHO it wouldn't hurt..
Andy, I have left mine outside in a bucket of water all winter and chipped off the ice on the surface and they still lived! LOL I had one Tropical Sunset that had roots over a foot long.. they did fine. We fuss over them so much.. it's hard when you really don't want to loose them! If you have the room inside, you can pot them up now.. They will develop roots and leaves just fine.. When they go outside.. just be sure to introduce them to natural sun slowly.. they may get a few white freckles or a bit of sunburn, but they won't loose their leaves when you put them outside.. they will take off like gangbusters!
I got some from Daisy today too! One of them had a bloom on it. That won't actually open will it? OMG I think I'd have to stay home from work to watch it if you said yes!
ZZ - thank you... I hope I get them right one is supper nova and I am dying to see it in full bloom!
Thanks, ZZ... based on your info, and because they look so sturdy in the bucket, I think I will wait to pot them up until spring fever hits (usually mid January).
ZZ! You didn't!? I didn't mean to sound like I wanted you to buy one! I'm always happy to share, I just want him to age more for bigger better cuttings... Now, I have nothing to trade for a cutting from your little one. I know how it is, though, you just can't wait sometimes. And there's nothing wrong with begging, when it comes to brugs. I was so excited seeing the bloom, I didn't notice the scent on Alex! Charlene, that's an interesting experiment, I'm anxious to see what works best.