Morning Glories 2006 #4

Another image of 'Cameo Elegance'.

Light pink of JMG 'Akatsuki no Haru', such delicate flowers.

Another image of JMG 'Akatsuki no Haru'.

Here is JMG 'Sazanami', no matter how early I get up to take pictures, the lavender color is in the blue field of the corolla. I guess this is normal for the cultivar I have on the deck.

The seeds of this one came out of the same packet as those of the blue form of 'Sazanami', it has a pale corolla and nice ring around the eye of the flower with radial lines extending outwards...the lines are darker on other flowers of this one which I will have to photograph when the opportunity exists.

Xiong's fabulous Chinese Morning Glory, love the vivid red color of the flowers.

Last but certainly not least, JMG 'Kohkan'...it has the largest flowers of the entire lot, easily 8 inches in diameter.

Zem, your pictures and conversation about your feathered friend has inspired me to plant the feathered, I. purpurea,seeds that I have but not planted! I've also got a line of Japanese, I.nil, that have the feathered gene. When they combine and make a feathered plant, it truly is infertile, so the only way to perpetuate the line is to save lots of seed from the unfeathered plants! I have seedlings started now that show the features of being feathered (very curled leaves) that I am hoping to get to bloon this year yet.

Joseph, your plant pictured here, http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=2637717 , looks like it could be of the Kodachi type dwarf. Particularly the shape of the flower and your description of it not wanting to twine. Are its vines relatively short - say under 5 feet?

The Sazanami seeds that I planted this year yielded quite a variety of flowers also. Is your seed "first generation Japanese" from a commercial pack? Mine was.

I've been watching your Kohkan, and am very impressed. I like it a lot.

Arlan

Kohkan is wonderful as are the rest of yours Gerris2! I seem to be having a problem with many of my blooms wanting to hide behind the foliage this year. Not sure of the name of this one.

Blue Silk.

Rose Silk? I noticed in the plant file that Rose silk is suppose to have varigated leaves. This one has plain leaves. You can't see them in this photo. It is growing on a rose bush and those are the leaves showing here.

Susan

This message was edited Aug 19, 2006 9:41 AM

Arlan,

Thank you for your kind comments, much appreciated. Kawaii is quite the short vined plant, it shows no signs of wanting to twine on the trellis, rather, it wants to spread out laterally and then upwards gradually on stout stems, loaded with hairy buds. I really am enjoying it. My Sazanami is from seeds fresh out of the foil commercial pack. I enjoy its blue color but it is nothing as deep and vivid as last year's 'ebay surprise' JMG I grew.

Joseph

Susan,

I like the star on the blue mystery vine (http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=2637975), nice one! Did you get Blue Silk from me? It is also beautiful, love that Robin's egg blue color. I need to grow Rose Silk, it is also very lovely.

Joseph

Yes, I think the Blue Silk is one of your seeds. It is my all time favorite so far. Such a lovely delicate bloom.

Lincolnitess, you have given me two more seed varieties to hunt down, as the Blue and Rose silk I just love! Does anyone have a recommended seed source that they have found delivers high germinating seeds?

Joseph, I think that my neighbor is growing Cameo Elegance next door as well. But he said it was sterile so that any seeds I scarfed wouldn't grow :( (fancy the neighbors thinking I'd be looking for seeds...doodidoodidoo - innocent look) I'll try to get a photo or two tomorrow morning to see if it's the same. It has deep verigation on the leaves and the flowers are truly tiny and brilliant in color.

Laurie, while I despise roundup, it sure did make those first blossoms lovely! Are there any MG strains that actually have that kind of flower petals?

And by the way, thank you so much to all of you who know so much about these lovely plants and so willingly share with the newbies like me. DH continues to call them weedflowers, but I'm in loooove with them. We were busy taking the neighbor's moonflower down off our power line, where it had rushed up on yesterday :)

Have a great day!

-Sunny

Joseph - Are the anthers and stigma of the Lilac Ipomoea lacunosa truly colored when viewed in person(?)...the anthers and stigma appear to be colored in the photo,but I'm wondering if the colored appearence is accurate or possibly due to any inherent photographic process artifact(?)...
http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/Gerris2_1155987966_104.jpg

In the spirit of the continuing quest to determine the possible differences in Minibar Rose/Cameo Elegance/BeniChidori/Tsubame types...does the plant you are showing here
http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/Gerris2_1155989326_524.jpg
always have leaves that are basically smaller or just alittle larger than the flower(?)...and does the length of the vines stay at most around 3">tending more towards the habit of a trailer(?) or will it ever produce leaves that are usually several times the size of the flower as shown on the plant with the variegated leaves here
http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/beaker_ch_1155944141_661.jpg
and with stems that readily climb to over 8-10" (?)...

The flowers on the non-dwarf plants that I've seen have always had a complete/solid lighter margin around the outer limb...

My main point is to establish and clarify the existence of all dwarf and non-dwarf features/forms (always?) occurring as either pure dwarf or non-dwarf on the same plant or possibly occuring as a combination of both dwarf and non-dwarf features on the same plant ...the patterning of the variegation is also a consideration and whether this type of variegational pattern is inexorably always linked with the dwarf gene...

Personally I've noticed that the dwarf plants seem to have a tendency towards a darker green chlorophyll concentration and the forms with larger leaves having a noticeably lighter green color...the possible darker green of the smaller leaves in combination with the size factor may contribute to the perceived degree of contrast in the type of variegation present...

Laurrie - My feathered Ipomoea purpurea also always produce lots of seeds...


lincolnitess - this one could be produced by Pink Tie Dye,Akatsuki no Mai or Asagiri...
http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/lincolnitess_1155834937_704.jpg
Susan - Please put a few seeds of this one here
http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/lincolnitess_1155997894_20.jpg
aside in a stash for me...


Hineni-Sunny - So far,I've not experienced or heard of any of the Cameo Elegance types being infertile...I'd collect the seeds if I were you...that is if your neighbor doesn't mind your 'scientific' curiosity...otherwise>ala>'doodidoodidoo'>some strategic MG panther/guerilla stealth tactics may be necessary....

Glad to see Everybody is keeping a close eye on the color and pattern variations and selecting these variations to capture and preserve them...

TTY,...

Ron



This message was edited Aug 21, 2006 4:37 AM

Ron, I will save some seeds from this one for you.
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=2637975

I think it was just 'Akatsuki no Murasaki' having a strange day. The temperature has been dropping some in the last couple days and I am getting lots of changes in the pigmentation of my blooms. Here is one from the same vine today.


This message was edited Aug 20, 2006 9:50 AM

This one too is from the same vine.

Here is my unknown (Asuka NOT) doing funny things too.

I found my list of the seeds I planted this year and think this pink one came from a pkg, from Japan that was labeled Asahi, but after looking at the plantfiles, I agree with Ron's comment that it could be Akatsuki No Mai. Blue/purple ones are more of the unknown Asuka NOT.

This message was edited Aug 20, 2006 10:03 AM

And another Asuka NOT with a very different color change than what it shows in the photo posted 9:54.

Another Akatsuki No Mai.

It was very foggy this morning. I wonder if that could be the reason for the color changes? Here is Blue Silk showing more white than most days.

This message was edited Aug 20, 2006 10:08 AM

I believe this is a pink Ipomoea purpurea. I do not know if it has a name. Every year it climbs up a 6' fence, over the top and then goes on to the top of my garage.

This message was edited Aug 20, 2006 10:14 AM

Here are the flowers close up.

Susan,

Your JMG garden totally ROCKS! Wow!!! I really like that Akatsuki no Murasaki in all of its flower forms.

Ron,

I just checked the flower of Lilac I. lacunosa and it indeed has uniform coloration of the petal, anthers and stigma. The one in my picture is more reddish than in real life, up close and personal.

The Cameo Elegance I am growing has uniformly sized leaves and variegation, all about 2-3 inches in diameter, and the vines are extending upwards over 4 feet now and showing no signs of slowing down. The vines are making seeds, so there is successful sex going on out there!

Joseph

Wow, this is good to spend part of a Sunday looking a beautiful pictures of one of my favorite flowers. :)

I`m getting more white speckles on the purple star flower. It looks like it has Hannahabuki pattern but it is all purple shades. The other vine that came with it in the same seed packet looks like it will bloom the correct Hannahabuki pink color. That is what it was supposed to be. Interesting. I like it and will grow some more to see what else happens.


This message was edited Aug 20, 2006 11:40 AM

I believe this is EHIGASA from Yuriko's previous offerings but I'll have to check my records...if I can find the binder they're in!

Sandy

Wow,the margin on Ehigasa is beautiful!

...and I think this is Star of India if I remember correctly.

Oooooh and Aaaahhh!

Finally got a hold of EmmaGrace, she is fine but her puter has gone byebye. She just recieved her new puter so hopefully she will be back soon. And have she some catching up to do on all the beauties you all have posted :0))

Yesterdays "Lilac Luster" is a lot darker. I got one vine with paler lighter colours and one with these darker ones. Have to waite for Emma to find out how LL should look like.
Janett

Susan - Nice photo documentation of the effect that the weather can have on the flower pigments...

The Pinkish colored blizzard flower may be from an Asahi or even an Ushio...there are probably more types of 'pink'
JMG's than any other single color and many of these producing blooms with overlapping features with other named types...separating/classifying the differences in the named types that display overlapping features from 'different' named types is going to be a challenge...

The pink Ipomoea purpurea you have has a nice rich coloration to it...Generally the medium to dark pinks have been lumped in with Crimson Rambler,but I've also seen the variations of the reds and pinks called and sold as Scarlet Rambler,Red Rambler,Rose Rambler,Pink Rambler etc,...

Joseph - Thanks for the feedback on the Ipomoea lacunosa and the 'Cameo Elegance' that you are growing...may I suggest that you enter a closeup of the Lilac Ipomoea lacunosa into the PlantFiles...

It seems that there are at least several variations on the Calmeo Elegance/Minibar Rose/Beni Chidori/Tsubame types...some that retain mostly dwarf features and others that display a mixture of dwarf and non-dwarf features...the plant you are growing is climbing and it may have vine stems that extend to non-dwarf lengths...but the flowers and leaves seem to be closer to a dwarf type...it will be interesting to see what length the vine finally reaches...

Here's Kevins Minibar Rose with leaves that look to be a lighter color
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=2429341
http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/KevinTernes_1151196373_435.jpg
http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/KevinTernes_1151196321_917.jpg


Karen - Great looking bloom you got here
http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/gardener2005_1156091737_435.jpg
you know to allow a few seeds for my 'Easter Basket'...

interesting to copmpare the ray pattern to the one that Susan has here
http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/lincolnitess_1156085690_262.jpg

Sandy - Your Star of India looks to be more of a purple-blue than most
http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/Seedsower_1156092128_654.jpg
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/86675/
...I like it...

Some Royal Robes/Star of India that Janis got...for additional comparisons...
http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/Woofens_1124718337_338.jpg
http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/Woofens_1124459777_89.jpg
http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/Woofens_1126716287_928.jpg
http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/Woofens_1124459709_584.jpg
http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/Woofens_1124459730_837.jpg
http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/Woofens_1126824234_609.jpg
http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/Woofens_1125529301_762.jpg


Royal Blue Henka
http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/OhioBreezy_1155238012_92.jpg
http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/OhioBreezy_1155309431_750.jpg

looks like there are some related/similar midpetaline banding color 'equations' going on...


The Ehigasa is nice
http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/Seedsower_1156091846_52.jpg
...also interesting to compare to the Cornell here
http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/OhioBreezy_1155912324_695.jpg

Pink Mutation of Star of India/Royal Robe
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/84453/

and a photo of a bloom you posted 'awhile' back...

TTY,...

Ron


This message was edited Aug 21, 2006 9:36 AM

P.S. - for those of you who are growing out some of the perennial bush species>Ipomoea adenioides,I wanted to share this photo of what the blooms look like...it looks like it shares features of Ipomoea alba and Ipomoea albivenia and perhaps the white form of Ipomoea carnea...

Ron, that one is absolutely stunningly gorgeous.
Janett

Oh so frilly! I love it!!!

Yes, I`ll surely make a little collection of things after harvest is complete.

I`m trying some crosses with the Berry Ice and my yogiros. I`ll have blooms to share pictures soon. Maybe I`ll call them yogi-Berrys (yogiro x Berry Ice) :~) ha

Ipomoea adenioides is lovely Ron! Joseph, I think this may be the Yaguruma I got from you. It is the smallest flowered one I have. Very pretty! Sometimes it has 5 whites spokes and sometimes 6.

There are 3 different JMG in this photo. First bloom for the striped one Hamaginga.

This pink blizzard one has a lot of variations.

More of the same pink with a white Yuki. I wonder what makes some of them decide to have stripes and others splashes?

This message was edited Aug 21, 2006 11:20 AM