Help please...multiple problems ...can anyone ID?

I found this problem on one of my lobelia that I planted last year. It has been comming up nicely and is bigger than last year. Most leaves are healthy but some look like the leaves in the pic below. You can see another leaf on the left crumpled with the same thing. Other nearby lobelia aren't doing this, however I have some other plants (cleome, sage) with yellowing leaves.

I'm not sure if my lobelia is suffering from a nutrient deficency or some insect, thus the pics.

we are just comming out of almost a week of rain and very humid weather. Yesterday, I sprayed with messenger.

Can anyone tell me what they think this is?

Thanks,

Maureen

Another pic of 2 leaves from the same plant:

Here's some sage 'lady in red' that is yellowing, in a pot:

Under side of lobelia, other leaves are from same plant:

Now inside the house, on my sunflower seedlings, white spots :(

And more white spots, another sunflower in a different tray.

Any help is appreciated, I have been looking on the web and thought maybe the lobelia had thrips, but I'm just not sure and would like some more experienced opinions.

Thanks,

Maureen

Off the top of my head, not knowing what your fert program is...if these were outside in the rain, and you are only foliar fert and not using slow release-the salvia esp looks like it has not fert in the dirt-that it all got leached out with the rain. This might applu with the lobelia as well. Sometime this chlorosis of the leaves signifies a micro nutrient defiency-either because your PH is off and is preventing the micronutrient from being available to the plant or because the micronutrient is not there for the plant-using a fert w/out the micronutrients would do it. Both these plants are showing a nutrient defiency of some sort though-which is good because you can fix it. I use a good slow release fert with all the micronutrients in it. I apply the right amt and just walk away-except to water lol-which I wish I could figure out a way of not having to do that!!

I am too much of a control freak to use slow release ferts--I have to know exactly what they are getting and when LOL.

I was thinking micronutrient deficency myself for the outdoor plants, they may well have been leached because we had just had an awful lot of rain. My next stop will be wormsway for some earthjuice microblast.

Thanks for your comments, I think I can now safely believe I don't have thrips :)

Maureen

On the top ones think supplementing Iron Chelates. but first if you are useing inorganic fertilizer I would use more compost tea on all of them and all defficiencies will be dealt with. Ironite, Or Iron safe. I use a lot and my garden has never been greener.