Mite my eyesight be failin' me .. or, what ?

Speaking of Scottish brogues, this man could tell me a bedtime story anytime, lol.

LOL me to. Even if he have aged he still have the looks and not forget the dialect and voice. yum

Drool.

I can understand the point of the thread but when i first read it I understood all of it with no problem(yes Im a hillbilly) I thought it was a hoot. I looked at the pic and Im really glad she underlined what she saw because I could have been sitting here all day and not seen it. Guess everyone sees things differently on some things.

LOVE Sean Connery! The "look". The pout. The voice.

What was this thread about again? I can't remember.

hehe he is a good looking man.

i try not to add to much of a southern drawl to my posts but sometimes i do. there are some here in the south that still on the coast lines speak whats called GULLAH. Now thats hard to decipher ifyou have never heard it before.


i dont think it should have been written that way when it was a technical problem. it should have been plain and direct.

gram always said theres a time for fun and a time for seriousness.

In know this is way off the subject, but when I read IndiaShade's post, I couldn't help but laugh. I thought I was the only one who watched Most Haunted. lol My husband teases me about it, but now I can tell him there are others who like the show.

Well - looks like it's split fairly evenly... Some appreciate the dialect, others just skip it because it's not worth the effort. :-)

Our consumption (reading) of posts is like the free market. Some get utility value, others don't. We don't consume what doesn't have perceived value. I'd compare it with huge run-on paragraphs taking more effort to read through the verbiage. Is it worth it? Each reader gets to decide.

However, if someone has a specific issue that needs to be understood, common sense would suggest being courteous and understandable to the target audience (like admins with multiple requests/issues).

To each, his/her own! Let the posters enjoy - I'd hate to have a writing style dictated and we can all exercise our right to skip burdensome posts. Gotta luv Dave's!

Cheers!

Magpye has been conspiciously absent since this thread started. I hope she can separate comments about dialect from comments about the person using them. I've never seen any derogatory comments about her as a person and contributing DG member.

no, i haven't heard of anyone personally attacking her and i would hope i never see that! to tell you the truth, although i never read her threads for all the above-mentioned reasons, i don't think she is deserving of all this. i know she asked our opinions, but i'm starting to get a really bad feeling.....she certainly wasn't hurting anybody and while it was a bad way to post an error on DG, i truly hope she comes back. it would be petty and stupid on our parts if she was "run out of DG" for something as silly as one bad post. if that were the case, i guess i would have been run off long ago, or at least be packing my bags! debi

I don't think we have to worry about Magpye. If you look at her threads about her house and garden, you'll see she gets tons of feedback, and all of it's positive.

Where are the rules for posting? I'd like to read what is acceptable and what is not. I honestly don't understand the controversy, or why it was offensive to Administration. Frankly, if I were the one who found a mistake made by Administration, I might not have called it to anyone's attention. But if I did, it would likely be done in a light-hearted, comical way. I thought that was what Magpye was doing in the first place. Well, I probably should have kept my comments to myself. Before i get taken the wrong way.

nap, there used to be a guideline for postings but I cannot seem to locate it right now. It included tips like breaking up paragraphs to make reading easier (since we have so many older members). The only other thing in effect is under the "acceptable use policy" in the link at the bottom of the home page, and probably on any thread page.

There are 2 things going on in this thread: one was the OOPS that magpye posted (and Dave fixed) and the other is just discussion about how hard it is to read artificial dialect.

No one has a problem with the occasional affected dialect, nor the posts by two of our deaf members that appear as dialect... nor even the many, many members living elsewhere and English is not their first language.

Magpye and Dave, I think it would have been better to D-mail Dave. He has a lot of presser from all of us and it would be embarrassing to me if you told all of the Garden of a mistake I made. Magpye I do not read your post becouse I am so dyslectic I can hardly read or wright English let a lone read dialect but I see a lot of people love it so keep right on doing it. After all we are all friends here and that is all that maters. We are who we are and we all try to except each one as they are.
Love and Peace,
Joan

Since so many people love it and so many others don't, how about a compromise? Any good thing can become too much of a good thing.
So, how about, shall we say, let's see, dialect only every third Sunday of a month?

Please advise.

This message was edited Oct 1, 2005 6:39 PM

darius, I think this might be what you were thinking of: http://davesgarden.com/faq/forums/#130

And you're right - there are no hard-and-fast rules about posting "style" as long as it isn't a violation of the AUP's decency standards for a family-friendly site.

I think this thread evolved into an invitation (by Magpye, no less) for members to comment on the affected style of writing used in her posts. (This same style has been used on other occasions when writing to admins; hence the feedback.) Hopefully everyone who has followed this thread understands our request for problems or suggestions to be posted in plain and simple terms. Personally, I enjoy lighthearted banter as much as any of our members, but I can't say I look forward to reading "between the lines" to decipher an error that needs to be fixed.

Thank you very much for finding just what I was looking for! I've only been here a couple of months and though I did read everything at the beginning, I for got how to "get there from here". And I see you were all right about not complicating things by using language or grammar which may be difficult for some of us to follow. That makes sense. And sarcasm can easily be misconstrued.... Regardless of who uses it.

STILL hoping Dave will allow "Smileys" so we can be sure of our intended words!

I would like to say how much I enjoy Magpye's postings including her dialect style which I have had no difficulty following although it is completely alien to me.
I really missed her postings when she was away for the last few months and was delighted when she resumed posting.
Yes, perhaps a posting to draw attention to a glitch in the system should perhapsbe in plain language, but Magpye, don't otherwise change at all. Keep posting as much as ever and keep to the style which is so much you!
Ken

ok darius, what's a smiley? debi

i thought that was what LOL was for? LOL

Yes, but many more "emoticons" are quite useable in posts, conveying more than just laughing.

i have to check this out, but not tonight-time for this old emoticon to go to bed. (';')

I'll also point out that I was never offended. Just confused. :-)

Dave

Mags wrote the most amazing song for the Seed Snatching, Dumpster Diving Divas las year and has the most remarkable pictures of birds from that little piece of paradise she calls home.
I do get overwhelmed by her post and skip most of them.
I personally stop myself from slipping into being "countryfied" in my post because if I get alzhimers I want to keep making the most since I can. I get bad habits very easliy and my DM was a stickler for writing in an educated way. I fight battles on behalf of thousands of women who will come after me in my work and therefore want to sound smart wheather I am or not.
I love Magpye, but love her most when she is not in dialect, cept for songs and such.
Sidney

I find it confusing and offensive, but to each his/her own. I also skip the posts, and that is my loss as I'm sure there is a wealth of information there that I am too lazy or busy to decipher.

I agree with Kennedy. I like to read and decode Magpye's posts. Interesting, imaginative and creative. Photography is fascinating too.

I enjoy Magpye's posts and have a feeling that she won't be posting anymore. I certainly hope not but gosh everyone ganged up on her. Please Magpye, come back to us. An innocent criticism sure stirred up a lot of stuff. Are we a bit sensitive? Whatever happened to lighthearted and humorous talk?

Of course she'll keep posting. She's not going to let something like this get her down. Come on, people. This is Magpye we're talking about. Besides, it's not true that "everyone ganged up on her."

She has been posting on other forums. No one has ganged up on her. She asked for comments on her writing style and everyone has been pleasant with their yeahs or nays. And she posts lovely pics which I certainly enjoy!

I agree with Butterqueen. I find it confusing, and at times offensive, and I also agree, to each his/her own. I do skip Magpye's posts, and don't open threads she starts because of her writing style, though she's not the only one with posts that can be hard to decipher. My time here is limited, and anyone who's posts aren't in, what's for me, easy to read English, get skipped. I'm sure it's my loss, but that's my option.
Deb

Although I read Thornton Burgess' books to Terry and her brother (a tradition from my childhood), I don't do well with dialects. I won't voluntarily read Mark Twain. My "get it done" reading style doesn't do well with slowing down and translating. I have to admit from time to time, I will take time to translate 'Shoe and Magpye's postings, but if you want to make a point and have it widely read, dialect slows me down or just plain gets left out. I deal all day with customer's who send in orders in a multitude of styles, and design requests that are almost impossible to translate, much less create.. so my vote is for if you want it read and responded to in good time, keep it simple.

eye, but I lov all that salty talk - like "brine" & "saline solution".

I want to ask for a complete stop to all these negative comments.
I cannot see what business it is of anyone's what style Magpye expresses herself in.
If someone does not like it they can choose not to read her postings, but that does not justify expressing any opinion here.
There is no useful purpose in expressing a negative viewpoint, it is simply unpleasant.
Personally I think that opting not to read her postings is to miss a lot of entertainment and information, not to mention all the lovely photos of her 'vermin'.
It isn't even true that it takes a lot of effort to understand and it seems to me that a colection of her tales would be a lovely book to possess.
Please let us stop this thread on a positive note and encourage Magpye to continue quite uninhibited to the enjoyment of all her corespondents
Ken

Ken, have u read Magpye's request?

What's good for the goose is good for the gander, so let's stop it altogether.
Just let's not overlook the First Ammendment.

For Ken Down Under: http://straylight.law.cornell.edu/topics/first_amendment.html
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment01/

Kooger, where did she post that?

darius, up towards the top of this thread. debi

up there under one of TERRY"s post she did post this. its torward the top sept 29th there bout

ulrich--off the point a little, I guess, but would you please explain about the first amendment and how it applies here? I thought the first amendment had to do with federal government interference with free speech and freedom of assembly. Just wondering....t.