Here is the only MG that I've grown of ARUM's.
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1760871
To me it looks very much like Scarlett O'Hara.
Stacey [QueenB] grew some of ARUM's that are UNBELIEVABLE.
[At least I 'think' she said these are from Arum]
She is calling them 'Pink Satin', and a perfect name for them.
Here is one of her photos.
Isn't this one of THE most beautiful JMG's you've seen!
Clarke's Early Himmeblau 'Heavenly Blue'
started blooming this week.
Guess this is the lighter of the Heavenly Blues???
Love it!
A very pretty BRIGHT BLUE.
New bloomer from 'Henka Blue Type'
First vine that I've gotten with this color
First Time Blooms of Purpurea
Very Pale Blue with Pink Star and Halo
'Maisugata'
taken at 1:30 PM and was in 'direct sun' all day.
This new bloomer has been blooming ALL DAY.
Turns a Dark Mauve at end of day.
'Maisugata'
at 8am
'Fuji No Ao' at 1:30PM
'Fuji No Ao' at 8AM
Kevin - Nice looking MG's...The Ipomoea trichocarpa is now called Ipomoea cordatotriloba...
Emma - you had posted some reddish blooms before that you were wondering about being SOH...the first set you posted seemed to have more coloration to the throat and the latter photos looked more white around the throat...I am wondering if the two different looking blooms were from the same plants(?)...The first ones you posted looked about the closest that the 'SOH's are getting to a red throat these days... the latter ones with the whiter throats looked more like the "Wine and Roses" offered by J.L.Hudson...
I like the light blue ones you got out of the shibori...I got some last year out of the shibori ,but the ones I got are a couple shades richer in color...I like the very pale one you got there too...
The Fuji no Ao is interesting...not quite as light white rays that Bill Casey got here
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/45279/
but,very similar... nice,just the same...
Dennis - I wouldn't have chosen Ipomoea cairica for the blooms you posted...simply because there are so(!) many different flowered strains of Ipomoea cairica with blooms that can look very different..the bloom you posted without any further clues to go by looks like it could have been from the Ipomoea turbinata/muricata or even an Ipomoea wrightii just by the frontal shot with no size clues to go by...except for the surface features of the wood it is placed upon...
General statement on the PlantfilesDatabase - the synonyms attached to many Ipomoea are shared by many other Ipomoea and Merremias and so(!) many sites on the web,just simply 'parrot' each other and the synonym 'monster' gets worse as the days progress...I'm on the verge of giving up trying to clean up the database here...seems like 'tenure' of the Ubers take precedence over blatant mistakes like the Ipomoea purpurea pictures to the common name Grannyvine entries as posted here
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/43864/
some Ipomoea indica thrown in to confuse the otherwise unknowing...I feel uncomfortable that these images are picked up by the Imagesearch engines and Daves PlantfilesDatabase shows up all over the place showing blatantly obviously incorrect photos and many people will believe the wrong images and snowball the dominoe effect of misinformation...My pleas have gone partially answered ,but so far,still partially ignored and the synonyms and common names are another 'disaster'...
The synonym in botany should refer to the older no longer botanically correct name to a legitimate entry,but people just 'pile' up the synonyms and common names that can be shared by numerous other plants and the hopes for a botanically accurate MG database is looking dim at the moment,but maybe someone will eventually see the greater rationale and delegate the tenure of the older ubers who made honest mistakes and posted blatantly incorrect images and names,second to botany 2005(!)...I still have hope,but it's flickering...
The feature of people who post being knowledgeable enough to check the accuracy of postings is not a realistic expectation, and most people just enjoy the 'convenience' of pointing to a suppossedly 'official' database to bolster their private 'interests'...
I've reported to the staff and quoted seriously knowledgeable sources,but if they choose to ignore my input...somebody else can continue the 'mockery' of the supposed accuracy of the plantfiles database...there are many correct entries,but too many incorrect ones for the volunteers to adequately handle ...the regular members are very often inadequately 'equiped' to offer realistic constructive criticism and use the picture comment forums as a place to 'trade seeds' instead of offerring relevant feedback on the accuracy(!) of pictures posted and the accuracy of the common names and synonyms...The database has been promoted to a level of incompetence that can snowball into just another ludicrously innaccurate collection of 'blatherings' running unchecked...the accuracy and relevance(!!!) of any picture comments seems to take a second seat to the pretty pictures,... and if there are seeds available for sale or trade...These type of inquiries I believe are best addressed in an e-mail to the poster or in the regular forums set up for that purpose,otherwise what will be the difference and value of the plantfiles picture forums(?)...congratulations on a clear and accurate photo are in order,but trading I believe is out of order and is a waste of space of those specific(!) purpose forums...
Rant of the day...open to feedback if any...
TTY'all...
This message was edited Feb 7, 2006 8:50 AM
.Database entries that I have noticed that would cause major confusion are Morning glory "Early Call"(wow,leaves are sure different from photo to photo..),"Midnight Velvet"(Ipomoea nil???),"Scarlet O'hara"(might as well post a pic of a geranium in that entry)"Tie Die" (????)"Heavenly Blue"(let's toss in some I.hederacea for interest) and of course the yaltas,yeltas,Grandpa Ott's,President Tylers and Kniola's Blacks.I have written to the staff concerning some of the entries,with no response.
RON....
There you are!
I was going to D-Mail you today since we haven't heard from you in a while to be sure you were ok.
"Emma - you had posted some reddish blooms before that you were wondering about being SOH...the first set you posted seemed to have more coloration to the throat and the latter photos looked more white around the throat...I am wondering if the two different looking blooms were from the same plants(?)...The first ones you posted looked about the closest that the 'SOH's are getting to a red throat these days... the latter ones with the whiter throats looked more like the "Wine and Roses" offered by J.L.Hudson..."
I think these are the blooms you were referring to:
First Photo: This one is what I've been trying to get an ID on,
and is the one with more White around the throat.
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1760871
Here is SOH that I grew this year that has LESS White to the throat
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1760875
Both are at this Thread
http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/545036/
I did grow 'Wine & Roses' from JL Hudson in 2003, but don't even think I took photos,
so I vaguely remember those blooms.
These seeds are not from mine, but from a friend last year who didn't know what they were.
THANKS FOR YOUR HELP WITH THIS ONE.
Here is a different picture
And another of 'Wine & Roses' MAYBE
showing a seed pod. I can take better photos of back of bloom if needed.
Thanks again,
Emma
ron_convolvulus - wow did I take this as a "chewing" out my butt for something I said? Maybe this forum is more serious than I thought.......confused over your post.
Dennis
The Midnight Velvet was sold to me as I.nil and all the info on the sellers page was what I was going by.
I have found out with the help of Ron that I was taken in by this seller and I have asked if they could be changed to the proper names.
I haven't added any more to the plant files as I think it is a waste of my time to do so.
I am sorry that I was mistaken with the few that I did enter and wish I had never entered a thing in the PF's.
I have learned a hard lesson and am unhappy with my self as I fill I have made things worse.
:{
rh
rh,I KNOW!! I'm not even PRETENDING I know what's what. A bunch of us were sold I.hederacea labelled i.hirsute or i.hirsuta and I sure didn't know the difference till Ron pointed it out. I think my entry of "henka" morning glory should be removed as I posted it before I knew the confusion surrounding THAT one. I was just pointing out that the database can be incredibly confusing. oh,PLEASE don't think I was insulting you or pretending to be remotely knowledgeable!
I'm so sorry!
gail
I just learn as I go I guess. I never "claimed" to be the forum expert about anything. I just think it is fun that there are other people in this world who can appreciate God's blessings as much as I do. I don't know what data base details ron_convolvulus is talking about, I never really have depended on it for properly IDing my plants. I guess maybe I should stay away from all the alias names out there for fear they will come back and bite my hand :) Oh well, I guess I'm the one being sensative about things......need to go take a chill pill I guess.
Talk later everyone!
Dennis
PS: I like everyone's photos here and thank you all for sharing them.
This message was edited Sep 19, 2005 12:16 PM
I didn't take it bad I just wanted to let people know that I fill bad for my part in it all.
I don't look to the PF's any more to be the end all for info on the things I am growing.
Now that Ron has clued me in and I fill like I need to let folks know it was not intended.
And that I am slowly learning by watching the MG threads.
:}
RH
What a wonderful group of people we have here on this forum yall are just the best. You know we all make mistakes and we will continue to make them....
The data base is not set in stone and it can be corrected. If you find you made an error on an entry you made in name, discription you can simply go in a correct it youself buy editing your entry. Now if the photo is wrong then you still need to go to the Report an error button and explain what the mistake is and ask the photo be pulled and if you have a new one attach it.
But remember to be patience they are very busy and can't get to everyone at once. If you don't hear from anyone in a week e-mail them again. Nevertheless they will get back to you as soon as they can, so far they have not fail to help me anytime I have need it.
I feel I must add, when I stared this thread last year and contiuned it up until the time I turned it over to Emma until I was better, it was to simply have fun, post our photos, trade our seed and learn. And I know that is what Emma wants to, and I must commend her on the wonderful job shes done. And to each and everyone one of you I say your all just so wonderful to share your photos, seed and growing experiences. All this information is invaluable to us all....and with that we are all able to learn from our mistakes as well as out triumphs.
This is a new area and we are on the ground floor so there is sooo much to learn. But in the mean time we can enjoy all these beautiful flowers...and the comradary of each others company and friendships......
So keep posting and letting us know what you are doing and how..........I look forward to reading each and every post yall make.
Dee
WOW.... ok, I got blooms!!!! LOL
Here are some from today
I. Nil
First bloom, possibly Mt Fuji Blue?
Fuji No Sora
more
hot pink
lavender picotee
lavender picotee single
This struck me as different this AM. This is attached to the base of the flower, not part of a different bloom
Pink Single Picotees
Chocolate Silk
Flaked I. purpurea
more flaked
still another flaked
last flaked one for today LOL
Light Pink
Medium pink
another with more white
Shibouri (Dennis' Strawberry Cream Swirl)
another
and last but not least today, Scarlet O'Hara
Well, Janis, bueatiful blooms as usual :D
Definately hoping I'll have some tradeable seeds *grins* cos some of these are truly amazing!
-Zem
Thanks so much Zem :) I culd just sit and look at them for hours.... or until they shrivel LOL
Janis
