Morning Glorys 2005 # 7

Sylvia, that is BEAUTIFUL
It looks very close to a Blue Silk to me - wonder if it is!
Do remember if the seeds were a 'Creamy-White' color?

Sandy, Stacey or Dee or anyone else that has grown Blue Silk could probably tell from your photo.

It's a blue silk...you can't mistake that one!

Hi all,

Please forgive me for not giving enough information.

I had two types of MG in one pot. One is the chocolate MG, and the other one is the blue, which from posts above, I think it's Henka Asgao. There are two shapes: heart shape and tri-loped shape. I didn't know which one belongs to which kind of MG, but now I know, after causing all the curiousity. I am so sorry.

Enclosed is another picture I took yesterday. The flower is not so clear to identify, but it shows the flower with ITS leaves.

Again, I am so sorry. Please accept my apology.

~Eliza~

Here is another MG flower bloomed this morning. Please help me with is name. This one has tri-lobed leaves. It has the same blue as Henka Asgao, but the darker inside has star shape. It is so beautiful.

~Eliza~

This one looks more like a 'Royal Robe'. Typically, the flower is blue with a darker blue star, and can't remember for sure, but I think Ron's has white edging. I can't tell if your's does or not...

Eliza,
STUNNING!

Your Blue JMG with the Star looks very close to the one that 'golgi' grows. However, from the photos that I've seen to compare, yours seems to have more of a 'Turquoise' color.
Would LOVE to have a couple or so seeds of both your JMG's. They are so gorgeous.

Emma

QueenB,

Yes, this one has white edge. Here's another picture.

EmmaGrace,

I am so hook into MG, even though I can only see them once, before leaving for work. My MGs are not doing very well. I get only one flower at a time, so I don't expect to have a lot of seeds. However, I will save some for you, if you remind me again sometime.

You may want to move it to a sunnier area (if in a pot), and make sure you keep it well watered. Blooming plants require A LOT of energy. You might try a hit of fertilizer 1/4 strength, too.

The picture that was posted by kateliza_id here

http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1660361

clearly shows heart shaped leaves above the flower,this leaf shape is not typical of 'Chocolate" or yojiro,neither have I personally seen it on any of the 'so called' blue colored 'henka' types...

The picture posted here,shows no heart leaves above it and doesn't appear to be a picture of the same plant or container,although what is visible is the nil type sepals at the base of 'this' flower...

http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1663366


Regarding the practicality of the term henka and does it have any practical value in ID'ing our MG's...

http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/104835/index.html


I personally think that the usage of the term 'henka' is a very,very fuzzy term that means that the person using it does not know what the flower really is,or perhaps is choosing not to be more specific...
The term 'henka' is a term that is sometimes used to describe a very mutant strain of 'japanese mg',and as I posted to the entry by golgi in the database,what was considered to be very mutant by Japanese standards of yesteryear,could be considered 'commonplace' by todays standards...henka does not refer to any specific color(!),it does not refer to any specific leaf shape,flower size,flower form,or in fact anything specific AT ALL...it would be like someone asking a person ,"What kind of car do you have"(?)..and the answer being "I have a Chevy (!),or a Ford(!),or a 'sports car(!)"...what does 'that' type of an answer really tell you...something very(!) general(!),that could refer to any of a very,very wide range of any combination of features...henka is similarly a very general term that means NOTHING specific...If I showed a picture of a flower to Dr.Yoneda and he told me it was a 'Henka' with no further clarification as to what(!) observable feature(s) makes it a 'henka'...I would consider that a very(!) poor(!) answer...and tantamount to no ID at all...;
The people who enjoy MG's can use whatever terms they like...comes within freedom of speach...but I would like to remind any and all who choose to use the term 'henka',that it doesn't refer to any specific feature at all,and I strongly believe that the usage of that term is currently ,and going to continue to contribute to alot of confusion and misapprehensions...so,I shared my perspective on that...


I really(!) like the color on this one alot(!)
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1663368

This 'turquoise' one is showing a wider more expaned star than the first picture I posted to the PDB of the RR showing a more compact star pattern,and the 'turquoise' is also showing the coloring extending out of the secondary folds,which can sometimes appear wider and more triangulated giving the look of a ten(!) pointed star as I notated that can appear in the RR's...I think this 'turquoise' one may have a common parentage as the RR,
but obviously a very interesting dilution which is appearing as the beautiful Turquoise star like pattern...;

The more basic RR that I posted here for comparison

http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/84452/


On the Rose Silk...heres a start...

http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/84692/


Great Show(!)...Great Show(!)...



This message was edited Aug 1, 2005 3:58 AM

Thank you, QueenB.

My cute small white MG.

This message was edited Aug 1, 2005 9:21 AM

Hi,all,I'm back from vacation,and trying to catch up! Great to have Ron posting here as his knowledge on this subject will clear up so many of our misconceptions.I was never really comfortable with the "Henka" moniker last year when I first grew the Morning glory sold to me by that name,as simple research clearly showed that it just meant "mutant".I continued to use the name,though as I didn't know what else to call it ,and now feel rather bad that I contributed to the confusion.AND..after last years magnificent showing,I haven't had a SINGLE bloom.
In fact the ONLY MG blooming now is Hatsu Arashi .Last year we had a cool rainy summer and they LOVED it,esp. the Japanese varieties.VERY poor showing this year.Any others having this problem?
Gail

The flower pattern is a little different than my Blue Silk, plus it is a lot bigger. This flower is humongous.

Mine haven't been doing as well as last year, either. I think a lot of it has to do with with heat we've been experiencing, plus the weird rain pattern we've had. I'm having real problems with my vines setting seed, if they set any at all.

minigranny, the flower you posted is a very nice example of a Blue Silk. The color, form and size are totally consistent with it. Not all of them come out the exact same shade of blue, since even mine vary between vines, one being lighter than the others. Size can also vary between each vine, but there may also be some outside factors that can contribute to it being larger--i.e. better soil, more water, more sun, etc. Can you post a photo of your other flower for comparison? Here's one of mine. It was about 5 in. across.

Here is one of my Blue Silks from this year

Here's the only picture that I have of my Blue Silk. The bloom is smaller and the edges are not as ruffled.

Well, let's try that again. LOL It could very well be Blue Silk, because I'm seeing so many different variations in everyone's pictures of Blue Silk. It is just that the flower is so much bigger than my other Blue Silk. I've never seen a morning glory bloom this big before. It is planted in Miracle Gro potting soil, and the Blue Silk is planted in the ground in Miracle Gro garden soil. Maybe that is the difference.

This message was edited Aug 1, 2005 7:42 PM

Welcome Back, Gail
Great to see you on the board again :-)
~Nikki

Here's my contribution to the Blue Silk photo-extravaganza! I am getting more and more of these beauties with time, it is bliss in the morning.

Joseph

I have a couple more....

And the last Blue Silk for now...

On the other side of the house I have Star of India growing. I finally got a nice flower to shoot.

Joseph

I really love the variability in leaf for of the Japanese Morning Glory cultivars. Here is Yagurma, isn't it out of this world?


This message was edited Aug 3, 2005 8:18 AM

Here is the a leaf from my Aogakiyama, equally astounding as Seiun.

Here is Maisugata in leaf form. It will be interesting to see the intravariability in leaf shape on these awesome vines.

Last one, a leaf of Star of India, which on my vine is unvariegated. Is this a trait that any of you have observed if you have planted this one?

My SOI has green leaves as well.

Joseph,
I LOVE your Star of India,
and you Blue Silks are so unusually beautiful.
The White pattern is great.
Aren't they addicting.....

Yes I love them. Every morning is an exciting adventure to see what has presented themselves to me. Blue Silk image #2 and 3 are the same, just a different crop attempt. I have to thank "You Know Who" from eBay for the Star of India. Pudgiemudpies gave me this lot of Blue Silk seeds.

This message was edited Aug 2, 2005 10:30 AM

Same plant,two blooms on the same exact day...notice the white throat on the pink one...this plant is showing just how 'quirky' enzyme dependant pigments can be in conjunction with some 'finicky' genes......lighter color is occuring on the newest growth...

I wasn't sure if I should post this here or to the jokes forum...,but believe it or not...


http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/vines/gal0713564119660.html?3

That is funny, Ron, it looked like a flower bud to me but have not seen them growing through their leaves before.

Joseph

Here are my 3 blooms of the day LOL One is behind the wire so really hard to get a pic of, but I tried. The all white is a dwarf mg.

Same bloom, just color var in the camera.. the top pic is closest to the actual colors

The hiding MG

another angle

and the poor little dwarf MG.... I love these

Ok, I know what this is, its a seed pod on my Lavender moonvine..... how do I know when it is ready? I have 2 of them now :)
Sorry its blurry
Janis

Gerris,your Blue Silks are lovely! I am still waiting for mine.
Ron,you have mail!

Thanks, Gail, I gave my plants a few weeks head start indoors so they were fairly far along when I transplanted them.

Joseph

Woofens, when the pod is dry and brown, it'll be ready.

I cracked up over the morning glory bud! That was too funny!