clematis question - support

Oh, dear. Then try strong vinegar on the new leaves.

I think there is a Clematis growing Forum on the site, That might help you.
I agree the last picture is NOT Clematis, leaves too hairy and deeper veined, the sawed edge on the leaf is wrong too. looks like one of the nettle weeds but out of condition through lack of light while emerging upwards to get light, whatever it is, it really needs removed as mentioned, it will take away moisture, feed and pos smother the root area with it's own roots system.
Do it now while the plant looks young and tender, next year the roots could be more difficult to get out.

Take care and best Regards.
WeeNel.

Hey Pirl and Nel,

Thanks for writing!

I hand pulled that weed a few hours right after I posted last; on hot days I go back and forth between inside and outside work. (Still I got a painful sunburn, darnit!)
It was right next to the clem, small, and done in two seconds once I had a bit of shade.

Pirl, I did not mean to sound offended or to offend in my comment re: Roundup.
I only wanted to say it would not happen. As for weeds, I just control them when my selected plants are small, I even eat some weeds.

I have only this year heard of vinegar for this use (my mom told me it makes your hair shiny),
I am going to try it on the driveway weeds . - I have grocery store strength vinegar and know of no other kind except cider vinegar for dressing salads.
Shall I paint it one the leaf as you described if there is a plant near it that I want unharmed?
cheers
HeatherY

Shade is easiest on the gardener! I'm glad you got the weed out. I had visions of a wildly massive root on it.

I do understand and hope you will understand that at 73 we don't have the patience or tolerance we may have had when we were younger. Time is shorter and we want to enjoy the plants, not the weeds.

I do use (plain old Heinz vinegar but any brand is fine) vinegar for the entire brick terrace, to kill the weeds that grow between the bricks. Try protecting all surrounding plants with overturned pots or boxes, then use the vinegar - NO tank sprayers!

Regarding making the hair shiny...using it as a rinse and then rinsing out the vinegar from your shiny hair is critical. I told a girlfriend about it when we were 15 but she forgot to rinse it out. The date said he fell in love with her because she somehow reminded him of salad! They're married 56 years now.

Pirl, I do use some bug repellant, some fungus treatments, some artificial plant food when small
plants are getting their start. But I go with the most natural "least harm" options always, because I have
had some health issues in the past and I wish to keep them there. I want to make it to your age and beyond!

" Try protecting all surrounding plants with overturned pots or boxes, then use the vinegar - NO tank sprayers!"

I am trying to find a sprayer with a stiff extension that will apply a small amount of food or whatever
in a small area, while keeping the stuff away from my eyes and nose on windy days.
Is there even such a thing?

"I told a girlfriend about it when we were 15 but she forgot to rinse it out.
The date said he fell in love with her because she somehow reminded him of salad! They're married 56 years now.[/quote]

That's the BEST! I have been told I looked good enough to eat, but never that
I *smelled good enough to eat! Thanks for the smile!

I don't view many products as healthy for humans so I do try to avoid spraying and breathing bone meal, sprays, etc.

If such a product is made I haven't seen it. Others lurking may jump in and tell us if they know something like what you described.

Glad you enjoyed it. I always think of her when I use vinegar!

My DG name is taken after a former neighbor, who taught me to garden (and a lot more), and she only died at 102. She gardened until she was 95 and then arthritis made it too painful. Gardening is good for your health!

I was out without the camera in the miserable heat and saw something that made me realize I will go out one more time.
It is a flower, very very close to the clematis vine, and it looks like one of the OTHER clematis I have seen.
And it is purple.
Picture to follow - but it looks like the joke's on me.
Heather

I hope it is a clematis blooming and if the first bloom is happening now then it could be Jackmanii.

Not only is it purple and not the dark blue it looks in these pics, it is really connected to the clem stem! I swear it had two more petals a day or two ago. There is also a bud.

It's one I don't have but one of our other clematis fans is sure to recognize it.

Heather, there are a few clematis that meet that description...here are a few for comparison

http://www.taylorsclematis.co.uk/clematis-black_prince.html

https://www.gardenerdirect.com/buy-plants-online/1794/Clematis-All/Victor-Hugo-Clematis

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/56636/

and, when all else fails...

http://www.clematis.hull.ac.uk/index.cfm

I do hope you get you ID.

It is not Black Prince - It really did have six petals. I'd say Victor Hugo, but it is vary clingy - no non clinging habit here!

Perhaps the Faucon.
best

I hope that I can get an ID or at least a pruning type.

Heather

Given the time of year, it is probably a pruning group 3. It is definitely not Black Prince.

Huhn. So when do I prune them? It is only year two.

Meanwhile I am going shopping for an HF Young, darnit!
Heather

Cut them back by half after they bloom.

Cut them back by half? Okay, while a few more blossoms straggle in, the vine seems to have grown and really blended with the other vines on the fence. This might wait until fall when I know the other leaves will turn color.
Heather Y