Coffee Break #68 - Turkey Time!

I am SO glad I do not have girls. But it was nice to see some girls dressed very nicely - not like prudes. Skirt just above the knee, etc. There is just no need for that trampy style.

I totally agree

Having two girls, I can say it is VERY hard when shopping to find clothes that are youthful and not overly revealing. Sometimes I just bring some clothes home for them to try on, and they send back what they don't like. Then it takes attending an athletic banquet or a NHS induction ceremony, and you can see the difference. I can say that the girls who go to our church don't dress too badly, so my girls aren't the only ones to look stylish without being crude.

I have certainly seen some poor choices at our church.

Now this is a headline for tha ages.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2068810/Saudis-fear-virgins-people-turn-gay-female-drive-ban-lifted.html?ITO=1490

J-2 just lost her teenager. whew!

So it is survivable?? ^_^

If you take deep breaths.

Its the "cult of Barbie" So much TV aimed at high fashion and models. Superficial is whats in.Its hard to hold onto realistic values when Teens are bombarded with ads for makeup.
I dont know what happened to the femenist movement when little girls are groomed to be objects not real women.
Man am I ever a geezer today or what?

Too much pressure on the young kids to be "in". I remember when my kids were little and they happened to see the tv program "happy days". Instead of thinking that the people were "dorky" they asked me if things were really that nice at that time.

It's a developmental thing to fit in. We just hope they gravitate toward a good "tribe" of friends. The efforts in elementary and middleschool really make a difference in which way they're launched (lots of either watching TV with them or turning it off--this is my research background) , but the friend choices are still a surprise. Then in the college search, as we're doing now, it is getting even more intense because they're saying what their comfort level is with different attitudes and social groups. That's why the white person going to Howard University may get a scholarship--there are benefactors trying to help with acceptance of diversity and to support someone who bucks the crowd, if ony we can find those foundations and philanthropists!

Oh, Victor....hard years coming! Our son was a doll growing up until he hit 16, & discovered girls in a big way....will remember riding to town at 2 in the morning...his curfew was midnight.....my friends thought his curfew was too early...I thought it was too late! Since both my DH & I were educators in our town, we knew what was out there....and very hard to keep lips sealed with some of the girlfriend choices....he chose a good one in the end however! Last night at dinner, she told me her parents were doing their kitchen over, & if I wanted, I could have their old countertops, if they could get them out in one piece.....I'd be happy with recycled tops, they're very nice.....

Wow - my parents would not allow me out past 11 until I was 17.

Me either...with the exception of a dance that ended late.

Love one of the DG names who has a birthday today - LadyAssassin!

I wasn't allowed out after midnight - ever! I ended up marrying so I didn't have to go home for the summer and be in a midnight. (Marriage lasted 6 weeks.) If I was late, even if I called ahead and was out with our church group - I still got grounded. At least that is the way I remember it.

Here is one for thought.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45526347/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/burning-deceased-humans-will-produce-electricity/?

Whoa...don't like that! Yes, times change....when I was in college our curfew was 11....midnight on the weekend, but 10 on a Sunday....plus we had to dress for dinner. I ate at the Student Union a lot.....

10:00 until I was 18.. after that they didn't care as long as they knew I was ok

victor you need to chill - the REAL terror is when girls reach teenage years - water off a duck with boys in comparison

I agree Bill!

he lives in a sheltered world celeste :)

Our boys were always so easy. The girls...not so much...until the mid twenties. Now they're my best friends.

Guess this isnt news but I raised 4 daughters ranging in age 4years to 9 years.Yes 4 babys in 5 years.
Lets not go there.
Teen years were he((
The youngest is 51 now. Somehow we all survived.

Same here Jo, my girls are 33, 32, 29 right now and it's lovely. When they were 17, 16, and 13 it was pure torture!!!

I have to say that with 18 yo's there is certainly a lot of drama, with or without boyfriends in the mix. Sometimes i can't wait for them to be in college, and other times, they are the sweet people i hope they'll be when they're older. Different ages are harder for my boy or girl kids, but so far, I think it evens out. I had a wonderful afternoon with one DD today, accompanying her to a college interview. She was walking on clouds when the interview went well, which meant nonstop chatter. These are the good times.

You guys are really not making me look foward to my daughter hitting her teens

Yes, I my blessings and have heard horror stories about daughters.

Mine didnt stop seeing me as the enemy until they were out of college and handling their own affairs.
I've said it be fore "The aime of parenting is to work your way out of the job"
Now that they are grown I still have to zip my lip.

Another thought. One really nice afternoon with the teen keeps me going through the difficult times. This am my son had no photo ID for SAT tests because his sister had the car where he left his ID. So DH went along to vouch for him and we gave him an old passport, and somehow he'll muddle through the experience. The girls wouldn't have made this mistake. They're also all done with subject tests and AP exams for now.

My granddaughters are totally different, but they both can be pains....Garret was much easier to raise!

My DD was better than my DS. I think it depends on personalities too. DD is a tender heart and DS wants everything his way.

I raised two boys, between the ages of 14 and 17 I wanted to give my oldest away...LOL it was tough but at 18 he made a complete turn around. I can say now at 35 he is a gentleman and wonderful husband and father! Be patient they really do come full circle, sometimes it just takes some longer than others!

I am truly enjoying my two granddaughters but sooo glad I don't have to raise them!!

Hi Everyone!

I know, I disappeared again. Sorry. I had a houseguest from Belgium coming for Thanksgiving and staying A WEEK! I was exhausted cleaning house, and exhausted entertaining. Then I got sick. I feel bad that I forgot about you.

My son is 16 now and he's a sweetheart but doesn't want to do his schoolwork. If I could just get him to pass, I think I'll be happy.

Victor, your #888888 was a riot!

Harper

Same here with son and homework. It's starting to get better as he knows senior year has to improve to show he's capable of college.

Hey Harper! You can tell Sam no more cookies from me until he does that homework! LOL. I'm sure that'll do the trick! Hahahaha. He is so bright that he might be bored. Have you finished your botanicals class? I think about you when I'm doing my homework for my beginner's art class. No piece of cake - that's for sure! You did such a great job on your drawings. I hope we can get together again next summer...I really missed seeing you!

Same here Harper....would love to see the drawings, as well as you & Sam.....

It'll surely work, Louise! I know it would for me. I remember several years back, judging the neighbors who couldn't control their son who was doing poorly in school. I thought I was a better mother and would teach my son better values... Well, he does have good values when it comes to treating others right (I think), but OY! The schoolwork! That'll teach me for judging.

He is bright, and he knows it, so this year he enrolled in all honors classes. Even in honors, you still have to do the homework.

I have not been taking classes. : ( Between looking and working odd jobs here and there, I've been too busy and haven't had enough money to pay for classes. It's growing pains. I'll get back into it. I just have to learn how to discipline myself to work on the art even if my surrounding life seems to be chaos.

Miss you! And you too, Marilyn!

Harper

Hey Harper,just keep urgeing yourself to do something creative even if its not drawing or painting. If your wired with the desire it never goes away.

Louise! Just keep on trying the drawings. Great news you are tapping into your creative self.

Marilyn! The painting class is more than learning a new skill. Your illustrated book of a few years back was just wonderful.

I saw this in facebook - actually Harper posted it - http://exposingthetruth.info/top-five-regrets-of-the-dying/

Hey Harp! Hope things improve for you real soon. Hang in there.