Chocolate Basil? Is the 3rd time the charm?

I planted kudzu as revenge for my last landlord being such a buttmunch, I hope he enjoys it every. single. year. Turns out, it's hardy here when planted against a sunny South wall. It'd be nice if you can eat it, it's...prolific.

Clearly Squatch has been watching the Food Network too much.

[quote="Celene"]I planted kudzu as revenge for my last landlord being such a buttmunch, "
OH, I LOVE IT !!! I KNOW A FEW PEOPLE I WILL NOW BE CALLING "BUTTMUNCH'S..." Not on this thread tho .....

LOL I like that word!
And I heard that kudzu IS edible!

What do you do with it? Compost it to feed the high nitrogen requirements of Chocolate Basil!

Unsolicited gardening advice:

Chocolate basil and Buttmunchers both need a lot of nitrogen to thrive------:)
LOL--new term to me.

Reminds me of the "Loch Nestle" contribution to this forum.

You folks ain't right.

Oh my...if you like buttmunch, pull up a chair and have some coffee with CB cream and I'll help you out with some similar off-color but amusing err...sobriquets?

Wow---guess I am behind times. :0

Now I am PO'd at Squatch--He was around in 1646 and never mentioned sobriquets to me.

If he's been around that long, he's probably forgotten anyway. :)

Is that similar to charcoal briquettes.?

Just like that. But all French and stuff. I had no idea Squatch was French, who knew?

Squatch is whatever you want him to be.
Kinda like a politician.

Squatch,----- during his deep depression episode, called the suicide hotline--the call center was located in Pakistan. They got very excited and asked him if he could "drive a truck"
Go figure.

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Now you've done it Vort! The CIA just got intrested in Squatch. They're trying to get miss Bear to tell them ALL. They also want to know where that beat up ole dodge pickup is.And they want to know the location of the CB patch. All of us are on a special most wanted list.Miss Bear is trying to cover for all of us. Don't know how long she can hold out. She sure would like for all of us to chip in and send her bail money. I think it's around $150,000. I can chip in $5.05. One of my cats found a penny she'll donate. Miss bear says its cold in her cell and no covers to wrap up in,and they don't feed her anything but peanutbutter sandwiches. Not even any honey with it. And the guy in the next cell snores. HELP

SQUATCH FOR PRESIDENT!!!! Wait, does he know how many states there are. I kinda think a president should know that.
BTW: Seacanepain doesn't really buy into that "It's man's work" stuff. He's just afraid of Kudzu1. I know because last time there was a dog/opossum incident here, He told Kudzu that, of course, he would take care of it. Then, he handed me the shovel and directed me to the possum graveyard.
You just dip your kudzu blossoms in tempura batter and deep fry them. Yummy, and it goes especially well with `possum or fried bologna. Don't know about Spam.
I'm scared of Spam. Spam is a major component of the emergency larder. Spam means hurricane, no power, NO PERSONA 4! It means the world as I know it has ended. ~Nadine~

Nadene, Had'nt thought of spam as emergency food,maybe I'd better rethink that.Mine is sardenes.tuna,salmon and corned beef hash and potted meat.beefstew,chicken and dumplings and canned chicken.
Aren't the young leaves(Kudzu) good also and the tubers? Know I'd decided to try it this spring.

San--everyone knows there are 57 states--or is it 58?

"The visitor to Hawaii may be surprised or perplexed by why SPAM® is popular in Hawaii. You’ll find it in restaurants all over, and stacked high in local grocery stores. It makes its way into Asian cuisine, is served in sandwiches, and may be stir-fried with a variety of vegetables. The reasons for why SPAM® is popular in Hawaii are numerous, and some of them far-fetched. What can be gleaned is that Hawaii remains one of the largest by state consumers of SPAM®, with people eating roughly 5.6 cans of SPAM® per year on average.

The principle explanation for why SPAM® is popular in Hawaii is that is portable, durable meat that does not require any type of refrigeration. It was first introduced during WWII by American soldiers to Hawaiian natives, who quickly adopted it as an important part of their diet. In the Hawaiian islands where the weather quickly changes, and especially during wartime, the ability to have portable meat products that can be used in case of emergency was especially desirable."

Yep, it's a fact. I lived in Hawaii for five years, courtesy of the U.S. Army, and that's where I was introduced to spam. My ex used to make delicious spam fried rice!
I just noticed something; if you add a couple more s's in the word 'spam', you'll end up with 'spasms'.
:D

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I think I would have spasms if I had to eat spam again.

One of the many delights of vegetarianism, is never having to eat spam. My mother just loved it, baked with a brown sugar glaze and pineapple. Ewwwww

Squatch sez----"vegetarian" is an old Indian word for "lousy hunter"

I will be feeding both an ethics-based vegan and a passionate hunter on Thanksgiving. If it comes to a fight, my money is on the vegan. ~N~

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Poor Ms. Bear. We need to slip her some honey-glazed Spam until the GrannyGoons come up with a plan for breaking her out. I’m not afraid of Kudzu. Well, not Kudzu1. Her namesake is a different story. I had a nightmare. In my dream, I was sitting at the kitchen table drinking my kudzu tea and eating my scrambled eggs seasoned with julienned strips of young kudzu leaves. There was a buttermilk biscuit alongside the eggs. My dearly beloved was asking me if I wanted kudzu blossom jelly or gravy thickened with kudzu root powder on my biscuit. Just trust me on this one, Vickie; there are many, MANY uses for kudzu. Don’t get DW started! Celene has already added another use for kudzu to her list. (Jim)

I see why it was a nightmare !!! NO CB sprinkles on that biscuit !!!!!

Squatch has a good command of Native American languages evidently. The lady who had the original idea for the Amargia project was Native American and this is Native American Heritage month so we try to keep Thanksgiving as much of a celebration of Creek heritage as we can. Traditional Creek food, I am learning, does not mesh well with vegetarianism. I can count the dishes a vegan would eat on the fingers of one hand. Even succotash was traditionally seasoned with meat. I plan to experiment with vegetable broth as a base, but I haven’t tasted it that way yet.
Kudzu’s vegetarian daughter is easy to please. Make her some vegetarian chili. Pass the sweet acorn bread and get out of her way. She is in her mid-30's and has been a vegetarian since she was a teenager. She doesn’t worry about sugar because it may have been filtered through animal bone during processing or the really radical (in my opinion) stuff like that. So, our more zealous vegan will mellow with age orgo back to being an omnivore? Cool! I would be bald because I pulled all my hair out if I had to cook for this guy more than once a year.
I almost look forward to the exchanges between Kudzu’s DD#2 and our Great Hunter. DD#2 will sigh when she sees the venison and ask which of Bambi’s relatives we will be eating this year. Hunter will tell us all about Bambi’s dysfunctional family and which one Bambi put the contract out on and why. It’s an Amargia Thanksgiving tradition. ~Nadine~

I'd be jumping in the Ole Dodge and speeding away as fast as I could !!

ROFL, Nadine, love the Hunter's explanation of Bambi's relative's demise! I love deer, too, they are beautiful animals. But, yeah, darn it, they do taste good, too... I wish I could become a vegetarian, but I think I'd be hungry all the time.

I like cows as wonderful bovines to admire and photograph (teeth too big to want to pet). And as medium prime rib with garlic mashed potatoes? Oh my...

ummmmmmmmmmm,, Garlic mashed potatoes............YUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Debra, you make Texas proud!
My DD and my elder brother a.k.a. Great Hunter) had the real, serious conversation years ago and feel no need to re-hash it every year (Thank Goodness!), but insist on acknowledging their stances haven’t changed every Thanksgiving. Brother claims deer are destructive if their numbers aren’t kept down. Destructive to the wild places as well as cultivated areas. Since there are no large predators anymore to cull deer herds, he says he has to be the large predator. DD talks of re-introducing those predators and…WA-LA…a peaceful dinner. They have something they both agree on.
DD worked in a factory-style chicken farm in high school. She came home from work one day and announced she was never eating meat again. I didn’t think it would last beyond that job, but she lost weight and felt healthier so she stuck with it. She says the same thing Celene does. Whether our young zealot’s passion turns to a real commitment remains to be seen. In the meantime, we do learn from him. I didn’t know animal bones were used in the filtering process of making sugar.
Sansai is young herself and in for a rude awakening this Thanksgiving. The venison and acorn bread are good and an integral part of the holiday for those of Native descent. It is a lot like the need some modern Scots feel to eat Haggis on Robby Burns birthday. When it comes to giving our ancestors their due, however, Native Americans DEFINITELY get off easier than the Scotts. I’ve never eaten haggis, but I’ve seen the recipe. Yep, bring on the acorn bread! What Sansai is just beginning to realize is her Native guest are also going to want that pink, fluffy stuff and the sweet dinner rolls. The fact that wheat and dairy aren’t foods the Creek ancestors would have been familiar with doesn’t matter. IT’S THANKSGIVING. Time to be thankful for the good things the Europeans brought to this country. Wheat flour and sweetened condensed milk are among those.
Vort, my brother is getting old and there are seacane’s deer-luring apples to protect. Do you think Squatch would consider moving here and fulfilling the role of large predator? He can bring his CB with him. BTW: I thought the Native American word for “lousy hunter” was “`possum eater.” Even my 3-legged dog can catch opossums. k*

I can attest to deer being destructive. We had an unusually dry spring/summer...so the deer were in not only the pastures, but in our Yard, ate everything from rare Japanese Morning Glories, to white eggplant, tomato's ( when did deer start eating tomato's ??) even Abutilon, ( Japanese Flowering Maples) Got into the horse barn and ate any leftover's there, but they were jumping the fences where the the Hot wire was and pulling it down in the horse paddocks. Causing me to have to go out everyday and put it all back up. We have 3500 acres of wildlife management property behind us, where we would once see 3-6 deer using the game trail on the back side of the property, we now saw 12-15. Which equates to not enough area for the deer to sustain themselves without encroaching on our property. I have seen at least 6 this year along hit on the sides of the road. We don't have the natural predators we used to. We are encroaching on THEIR land. I grew up in a hunting family, I'm not really crazy about it...but I also understand the usefulness of it. As the youngest child of a farming/WWI and WWII family who had to do what they had to do to survive, and have eaten more than my fair share of "wild animals" growing up, it's really a matter of or times. How many Vegan's do you know were about in the early 1900's, 1800's...1700's etc etc. And quite honestly, I rather eat Venison, than chemically induced FAT cows fed with Hormones and Antibiotics.
Ok...off my rant now....I think I'll take one of my ponies out for a ride.

Hmm, maybe you could plant deer food on that wildlife mgt. property?? LOL

I grew up on a farm that had acres of corn. We had well-fed but destructive deer. They'd walk right up to the house and eat veg out of the garden, the little buggers. I'll never forget my father running outside in his underwear in the middle of the night to shoot one that was eating his watermelons he'd been pampering all year. We laughed for hours.

LOL kudzu--nice try but no cigar.
Even a no-legged dog can catch a road killed Possum.

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Deer eating tomatoes surprised me too. I wouldn't mind losing a few tomatoes to them. But, my raiders have the havit of sampling. Instead of just snagging a fruit or two and taking off, they will take a bite out of many different tomatoes. I imagine them out there in the wee hours of the morning having something like a wine and chee'se tasting party.
Deer #1: The Cherokee Purple' has a bit too much acid for my taste."
Deer #2: "Oh, then, you must try one of the 'Great White'. Smooth as silk."
The deer do avoid camphor basil, but that is a very big plant. I would like to experiment with the deer-repelling properties of chocolate basil, but....... k*

NEVER-EVER-EVER
In the written history of the whole world there has never been a substantiated report of a deer eating a chocolate basil plant.
They kinda know, instinctively, that it is in the category of the "forbidden apple thingy"

They also instinctively know that Squatch might be lurking nearby.

Great! After you send all of us with deer issues CB plants, the deer will see and smell our Chocolate Basil and ASSUME Squatch is nearby and behave accordingly. Choc. Basil plants will make wonderful Christmas gifts. How thoughtful of you, Vort. k*

I'm gonna need about a hundred plants, then. O.O