Clematis talk continues...

Athens, PA

Anita

You made it over to the clematis forum! Yay!!

Duluth, GA(Zone 7b)

Pill, I think you're right, it does look like your Niobe. Finally a name.

Diamond, my Josephine and my last Clem posted above get partial sun and seem to be fine. They only get water 2-3 times per week. The soil stays slightly moist, but not wet. I did give them composted manure, Epsom salt, and a good dose of fertilizer and more mulch this spring, and they've done the best this year ever. I tend to get the dried leaves when the heat sets in down here, but they get a good pruning in the spring and do well after.

Jersey Shore, NJ(Zone 7a)

I agree, Rosemoor's sepals are rounder. Yours is a dead ringer for Niobe, Cem.

Anita, I have clems planted in all aspects including heavy shade. The only difference I can detect is that the ones in shade are not as robust, vines and blooms, as the ones in sun. If they're little babies when purchased, they do like to be pampered in a pot until they develop larger root systems. If they're purchased as larger plants, the care described by Cem should do well for them.

(Anita) Fort Wayne, IN(Zone 6a)

Thanks all for the advice. Pirl, the previous clematis was put in full all day sun. It's more likely that I didn't give it enough water.

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

Lots of mulch will help and so will a lot of compost when you plant clematises.

Kiowa, CO(Zone 5b)

When I plant clems., the whole is atleast 12-14" deep, soil is mixed with peat moss, 1/2 and 1/2. I put the plant in deeper that it grew atleast 1 or 2 nodes (removing leaves as necessary), my clem book says to do this as if tops get broken there are other nodes for it to grow from. Side dress with aged manure. I then top off with a thick mulch or place a large rock over the roots as the roots prefer to be shaded. I've even moved clems., from garden to garden and they transplant wonderfully. Speaking of new clems., this spring I got: 1. integrifolia "Mongolian Bells". 2. integrifolia. 3. integrifolia "Durandii". 4. Terniflora, "Sweet Autumn". 5. hirsutimma (Co) "Lone Pine Blue". 6. "Sealand Gem". And just ordered: 7. "Barbara". 8. "Ernest Markham". 9. "volcano". 10. "Diana". 11. "Sangria". . And I already have atleast a dozen in the garden so far. Addicted? LOL. Both shrub and vine clems.. Here's my fav. from last summer......"Prince Charles" with Gypsophila paniculata (babies breath, 4ft), at it's feet. Good Luck, Kathy.

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Pittsford, NY(Zone 6a)

That is one mystical picture.Just lovely.

Athens, PA

WWKathy

Beautiful! This should be my leap year for Prince Charles!

Thomaston, CT

Wow....very nice clem, love the baby's breath around it.....

Pearisburg, VA(Zone 7a)

Hagley just starting to bloom. She's climbing in a Crape Myrtle tree.

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Pearisburg, VA(Zone 7a)

Henri climbing on a copper trellis I made after Diamond123 got me started making them a couple years ago.

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Pearisburg, VA(Zone 7a)

Ivan Olssen and Westerplatte just starting to bloom

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Pearisburg, VA(Zone 7a)

Ville de Lyon on another copper trellis

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(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

Love the clematis and baby's breath!

Wonderful clematises, as usual, Kathy.

Pearisburg, VA(Zone 7a)

Pirl,
I didn't get this labeled and can't decide if this is Volucea or Madame Edouard Andre'. I looked at clematis on the web but I'm still puzzled. What do you think

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Pearisburg, VA(Zone 7a)

Hre is another

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Toledo, OH(Zone 5b)

Nice color of purple! I don't have either one so not much help on the Id.

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

The best I could do was to make a collage of the three, using Jeanne's 'Madame' and Brushwood's 'Voluceau'. The colors in Texas may have washed out Jeanne's - I really don't know.

My guess would be that yours is Voluceau.

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Thomaston, CT

Wonderful clems, & copper trellises! I have a clem, new last year, that I started growing on my garden fence....today it has topped the fence......now what do I do?

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

Let it spill over the fence or toss it forward again.

Pearisburg, VA(Zone 7a)

Darn, my clem pic does look purple -it's not. I'm on the laptop and it's purple but it's more burgundy. No way is it purple.

I'll have to see what's up with this......

Thomaston, CT

Yes, Pirl, I was thinking of letting it climb back down the fence......must kill all of the poison ivy first....it's everywhere this spring.

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

Years ago it took me the entire month of October to rip it out/dig it out all along the post and rail fence and up and down the old pine trees. Good luck, Marilyn.

Mackinaw, IL(Zone 5a)

Robindog, I found one product that was really good on poison ivy, called Vine-X. I got it online, but I think it was also available at Ace Hardware. It is a tall bottle, with a brush top, so you can brush it specifically on the plant you want to get rid of, without worrying about overspraying onto your other flowers, or trying to carry around a cup of brush-killer and paint brush.

Just finished the last of my bottle last fall (used it up on what I think was some sort of hops plant taking over my blackberries), so can't look up the active ingredient for you. Just thought I'd throw that out there!

Angie

Thomaston, CT

Thanks Pirl & Angie....have to be careful because my well is in the front yard....according to my son, I can use Roundup because it breaks down in water, but I don't know how effective it will be......

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

RU works best on hot sunny days and used on the newest leaves. Good luck. It's a miserable job.

Philadelphia, PA

Thanks for the Vine-X suggestion. I have horrible bindweed that chokes my roses, clematis, peonies, astilbe........basically everything. I hate using chemicals, but the bindweed requires extreme measures.

New Hampshire, NH(Zone 5b)

Pirl, what's the name of the Clem in your opening post?

Mackinaw, IL(Zone 5a)

Had my first clem bloom today, on Proteus. Either it isn't fully opened, or it has some weird growth in the center of it. LOL Wish I could encourage this one to grow a little longer. It only extends about 2 feet up my trellis. Also have a Jackmanii on that trellis, which only seems to bloom on the top 2/3 of the trellis, so I guess they each have their place. I had just pictured them twining through each other, rather than blooming dark purple on top, and glowing pinkish-white on the bottom 1/3. :)

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Pittsford, NY(Zone 6a)

Is bindweed that little morning glory plant that comes from nowhere?

Augusta, GA(Zone 8a)

Hi everybody, after a week without the internet, I realized how much I depended on it. Which is good and bad at the same time. To report on my Clematis, they all are looking good, have 3 buds on different one. Only the Sunset is just sitting there, not wilting or growing, it is just waiting for something. No new leaves, just a same size like it came from the Bluestone. Had a mishap the other day, the neighbor said one green car stoped in front of my house, two grown men got out and picked up 5 bags of mulch that I just bought to spread and two of my nice flower pots, each about 25 lb, and got away with it. Now I wonder if anything else will be missing. It is just a terrible feeling to have someone take your stuff, no respect at all. I wanted some flowers outside of my fence too, but I guess I will not place a flower pot where someone can easily get it.

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

It's 'Pink Champagne', Christina. The montana 'Grandiflora' next to it managed to overtake it and kill it so I cut back the montana and planted a new 'Pink Champagne' a bit further away.

Booker - Quite a few times the first bloom can be "off". I like yours!

Yes, Jo Ann. I think it is. Plant Files would have the answer.

Sorry to hear of the theft, Kiseta. It must be an uneasy feeling and helpless as well. Give Sunset a drink of Epsom Salt to get it moving but it's still busy forming roots so patience is always called for (as though I have any!). Make sure all your clematises are well mulched - a few inches is fine but back it away from the stems by an inch or two.

Pearisburg, VA(Zone 7a)

How much epsom salt do you mix for each clematis? I've never used it on clematis.
Kathy

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

Clematises, roses and peppers love it.

I use a tablespoon to a gallon of warm water. Jeanne and I often don't measure but throw down a handful and water it in well.

Pearisburg, VA(Zone 7a)

I rarely measure ANYTHING - food or plant wise. Thanks

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

Same here.

Augusta, GA(Zone 8a)

Pirl, how often do you use epsom salt, once a month or so? Today I used some of my alfalfa tea on the slow clematis, I will see if that healps. I am ready for my cottage over your garage Pirl, tired of the ugly neighbors. Hope I feel better soon about it.

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

Once a month is good.

We'll clean the room over the garage, have it finished and get it ready for you!

I do hope things improve, Etelka.

Jersey Shore, NJ(Zone 7a)

People are pretty low when they stoop to stealing mulch.

Ilka standing proud after buckets of rain today

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Jersey Shore, NJ(Zone 7a)

Daniel Deronda between the deck railings.

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