Rose help! peace gone wild

I recently bought a cl. peace rose at tractor supply company on clearnce. i also bought a cl. don juan at walmart about 2 weeks prior. the don juan had just the tiniest little buds, so i kept it out on the porch, unless it was really cold, but the peace was really green, with some established leaves, so i brought it in... now it's really gone crazy... i mean, it looks like it's ready to bloom... from right up out of the plastic! we're expecting freezing temps here this next week, and these passed few days so i'm still unsure about getting them in the ground, but i also don't want to let this thing get out of hand, i'd imagine it must be getting a bit root bound, and i really have no clue what i should do here. any advice? will it be ok if i cut the new growth and put it outdoors? or should i cut it back and keep it in longer? or wing it and put it in the ground and pray for the best? i included a photo of the 2 plants side by side, look what a gentleman don juan is, and then there is unruly peace acting more like anarchy. help!

i moved it to take pictures and it even SMELLS very floral! i'm so excited, but nervous as well because i really love peace rose and climbing roses and i want this to do well. here is a better picture of the buds.

Don't plant it out till danger of frost is gone. I wouldn't prune it yet.

I'd plant it as soon as the ground is soft enough to dig. The roots need to spread, and it wants sunlight. As long as it grows in your zone, it is meant to be in the ground year round.

Outlaw

I would put them outside against the house. They will be warmer there than if you had them out in the yard. If you keep them inside, they will have to be hardened off and acclimated to the outside before planting them out. If your weather calls for temps lower than the 30's at night, I would bring them in for the night and then put them back out the next day.

Climbing roses are not supposed to be pruned the first 2 years after they have been planted. You want to encourage the growth on the long canes.

Climbing roses will flower from the lateral growth on the canes, so the more you arch a cane to grow horizontally, the more lateral growth you will get and ultimately the more flowers you will see.

When planting, follow as Cathy mentions, the roots need to be spread out. Use plenty of bone meal when planting your roses as this encourages root development.

One other thing - in the fall, be sure to cover the bud union with a mound of dirt. This will help to get your roses through the winter. I typically check mine to see that the bud unions are covered early Novemberish.

Let us know how you do with your new roses.

i woke up to snow! :( i'm gonna keep bringing it in and out of the house for now, hopefully next week? our last frost date here is may, so hopefully this next week will be better.

They really are meant to be planted ASAP. I fully agree with Cathy166. They are not meant to stay indoors until after the threat of frost is gone so plant them and enjoy them.

i know, i really hope to get them in this week. it's supposed to pour all week, but at least be reasonably warm. i'm thinking maybe i can get some burlap bags to cover them in case of any late frosts? so i'll be out there digging in the mud this week i plan to use pete moss, and potting soil mix. i'll have to find some bone meal, that's a great tip. thanks. think that will help establish the roots on a Hydrangea?

A frost should not be harmful to roses. What do you think is going to happen?

Is the hydrangea already in the ground?

oh, i did put them on the porch again, and i'm just gonna leave em like you said, unless it's really cold and once they're planted they're on their own. i'm posting in the beginner gardening forum cause i have no clue what will happen! lol. i'd assume that since the plant isn't established it's not good for it, but roses seem pretty tough? i don't know, i've seen blooms in a warm december before, but that was on a very old shrub rose? i guess i'm just being over protective as a new garden mom. i love buying bargain plants, cause really, it's all i can afford, but it doesn't matter how cheap it is, it's not a bargain if i kill it! lol as for the bargain Hydrangea, which was a $5 florist Hydrangea that i'm trying to establish. it's in a container, i've been told it won't do well in our soil by a local nursery owner. it's a luechtfeuer or firelight Hydrangea, and he said for some reason the red ones don't make it out here. i also live right next to a limestone quarry... i pretty much have to buy 10 tons of decent soil. so yeah.... :( any recommendations for growing in a gravel bed? lol

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I hope this will convince you that you should plant your rose. It's meant to be planted and grow outdoors, not kept inside and put outside for the day:
http://www.ehow.com/way_5162388_time-plant-roses-idaho-zone.html

Your hydrangea can be potted up, with good soil, and you can plant the entire pot.

Arlene is right. Plant it out and use plenty of bone meal when planting.

One of the best times to plant trees and shrubs is in the fall. It tends to rain more and the plant grows roots and does not concentrate on growing leaves.

If you can work your soil, plant it.

Yes, plant it! Carolyn is right about the bone meal!

thanks guys! will do! :) we're getting plenty of rain. the ground isn't frozen here, so i'll get that done as soon as i get home today! :) i'll stop for bonemeal and more soil today and then out they go!

You might want to put the roots in a bucket of water for a few hours and plant it tomorrow.

it's in! i soaked it and planted it, it looks better already! so many new white roots! so i used potting mix, peatmoss, bone meal and the dirt from the hole. it looks better already! maybe tomorrow i'll get the don juan in. that one definitely had an odor, smelled like hay silage... i'm hoping it was just packed with that, and isn't rotting. btw, i followed the instructions on the bone meal, just a few tablespoons worth. should i add a little extra? didn't want to over do it. it says not to add it directly to the plant or root, so i just mixed it in and gave it a good watering. i'll try to post pictures tomorrow. happy easter everyone! and many thanks!

That's great news and it sounds as though you did a great job of planting it.

Don Juan will be much happier in the earth!

That sounds about right on the bonemeal. I don't typically measure it, but take small handful and then mix it with the soil in the bottom of the planting hole and then put in my plant and then water generously.

Same here.

ok. sounds good. says you can add more for bulbs in the fall, and spring. is this true of roses as well? i plan to mulch above the bud union in november, and will add more then.

I wouldn't add bone meal when covering the bud union in the fall. You want the bone meal to encourage root development.

ok. thanks! :) is there anything i should do this winter? aside from mounding? i know it's far away, but i figure i've got the experts here, i better soak up all the info i can! you guys have been great.

some people put cones or burlap over their roses for the winter. I don't do this.....

wow! thanks guys, with all the random early heat and thunder storms these are really taking off! :) you guys are awesome. thanks again.

Interesting thread. Just hopping in to add my two cents: when planting my bulbs and transplants I add a mix of epsom salt, sugar and bone meal to the planting hole and mix it in.

sugar? really? what does this add? and how much is good?

Wouldn't the sugar attract ants?

i feed it banana peels, if i added sugar and epsom salt i'm afraid i may grow a banana bread!

mmmmm, banana bread

obviously without nuts. Probably a good thing, you wouldn't want to attract any squirrels....^_^

From what I've read, sugar helps incease microbes in the soil. There is debate about whether or not granulated sugar is helpful but I found the recipe years ago in a Jerry Baker ( master gardener) book and I have used it since. Jerry Baker suggests using a tablespoon or two of this mix in the planting hole when planting bulbs or any kind of transplanting: 3 parts bone meal, 1 part granulated sugar and 1 part epsom salt. I keep a batch in a sealed tupperware container so it's ready whenever I need it.

hmmm... i may try this. i feel like brown natural cane sugar would be better, maybe just because it's better for people lol but these are plants, maybe they don't mind?

**update**
today was not my day.... on my lunch i got an email from admin saying my photos can't be added to plantfiles because they don't match the cultivar! what?! so whatever i bought that was marked climbing peace, is not. :( so next time i get some roses i'll be researching to figure out what i actually have.
which brings me the afternoon's events.... i placed my rose at what i wanted to be the entrance to our side yard. at that time we still had our dog cracker, she's since passed and we adopted a wild little border collie pitbull mix named chance. his run just barely reached the rose, and he seemed to pay it no mind. he broke his cable the other day though and my fiance made him a new cable.... apparently about a foot or so longer than the old one.... i came home to find him wound around, and around, and around...and...you get the point. he didn't uproot it, but he definitely did a number on the new growth. so i spent about an hour digging it up, and replanting it, in a better location, i added some more bone meal, since i didn't have any more peatmoss. :( hopefully it will survive this trumatic transplant. on a good note the roots really looked great! i mean i'm sure most people don't actually get to SEE their roots, but i got a sneak peek and there is lots of new growth! :) and wouldn't you know! i had banana peels for my compost, and i forgot them! i totally could have thrown them right in the hole. maybe next time. lol lets hope there is no next time.

I'm guessing there is an ID thread (or you can start one) for roses to be certain of the cultivar before you submit it to Plant Files.

Poor dog! It must have been frightened to be so entwined with the rose.

Glad both the dog and the rose survived.

NO next time!

the worst part is he was all tangled up and it was raining all day! he couldn't get in his house! i feel horrible about the whole thing. i am so glad He's ok though. poor guy. he had a rough day so he got extra treats.

i'm really sad about this id thing. i mean, i bought this rose because peace is one of my alltime favorites! i love yellow roses, so i guess now i'll just have to wait and see. :(

Outlaw

Many plants are not correctly ID'd. Even if they come with the tags. That is just how it goes.

I am glad Chance is better - he must have been so scared. Poor baby...

As traumatic as it was to Chance, maybe he learned a valuable lesson as well! To stay away from plants!!

Glad all is better!

Nope. He loves to run straight through my gardens. Lol oh well.

Here's a picture of my poor rose now. Not lookin so hot.... :(

......matter of fact that's a chance print in the picture....lol

This message was edited May 19, 2011 9:15 PM

You need a cage around it. Try a tomato cage as a very temporary measure.

Doh!! Why Didn't i think of that?! Thanks pirl! this is why i love DG. :)