invasive weed taking over - zone 8a

Phenix City, AL(Zone 8a)

hello, i have a weed quickly taking over my yard.....now even showed up in a pot on the back porch. i have looked and cannot identify....any thoughts? what to kill with? earlier in the year i sprayed with ortho "weed be gone" to get rid of dandilions....those are gone but now this has taken over.

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Delhi, LA

We have always had those things but I've never known a name for it. We always just pulled them up. It would probably take some kind of herbicide for woody plants to kill it. I'll be interested to know what the name is.

Newnan, GA(Zone 7b)

Jim.
I have them everywhere too ... including in my pots on the deck. They look like little mimosa trees but they're not. I just pull them up too. It's not hard. Roots aren't deep. Have no idea what the name is.

Delhi, LA

I guess they are something common to our climate. Looks like we are all pretty close zone wise. I'm in 8a.

Newnan, GA(Zone 7b)

There are certainly worse weeds to be worried about. This one is a nuisance but not aggressive and nasty like some. Any weed killer would probably get rid of it ... even the "Gardener Guy's" vinegar and water, if you don't like commercial weed killers.

Delhi, LA

The weed that gives me the most trouble in the flower beds looks like a tea weed. The only difference is the ones in the beds pull up easy. The tea weeds we use to have in cotton and soy beans had a deep tap root that you couldn't hardly pull up.

Newnan, GA(Zone 7b)

The bane of my existence is smilax. Nasty, nasty. Bites. Grows almost as fast as kudzu. Hides in the middle of a shrub then pops out at night when you're not looking. The next morning there's a cute (?) little viney thing waving at you from the top of the bush. Deep, bulbous roots. Yuk!

Sparta , TN(Zone 7a)

they are the "Mimosa tree" we have a huge mess of the at the back of the proprty line and they blow their lil seeds every where I hate them as well same little tree folks .

if left alone they will take root and grow to be a problem

Sarge

Dublin, CA(Zone 9a)

No, it's not mimosa tree--it has more finely divided leaflets. This looks like a Senna/Cassia of some sort--there are several weedy species--if you let it bloom it might be easier to figure out which one.

Sparta , TN(Zone 7a)

thier done bloming in the back i think i can take a photo of the Big tree if that will help solve the Tree issue though


Sarge and their are the close by too so we can compair them to and solve the mystore .

Im game :>0 i still dont like them either way lol

Delhi, LA

It is not mimosa although it is similar to a mimosa seedling. These things will get a couple of feet high if left a lone but that is all. You can still pull them up easily at that height. Hope someone knows the common name. I have heard it but it slips my mind. Or maybe this plus 100 temp has burned it out. When the ole man comes in and stays it is hot.

Sparta , TN(Zone 7a)

Ok if you will give me a chance i have 3 photos .

the 1st is the lil one as every one is talking about in my garden too



Sarge



Here it is

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Sparta , TN(Zone 7a)

hee it is all grown up on the rail bank






Sarge

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Sparta , TN(Zone 7a)

here is the other Tree that is in Question





Sarge


Let me know what oyu all think

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Delhi, LA

It is really similar Sarge but not the same thing.

Sparta , TN(Zone 7a)

so 3 diffrent trees ?

Augusta, GA(Zone 8a)

Gardening101. That is most likely the Sensitive Briar ( Mimosa microphylla) There several species of Sensitive Briar, but that one seem to be the dominant one in the southeast. http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/56502/

Sparta , TN(Zone 7a)

Thank you Farmerdill

You have Cleared the air and the Mystery of the Nuasance little plant.

Many Thanks

Sarge

~ ;>)

Augusta, GA(Zone 8a)

Possible, But Phyllanthus urinaria does not have mimosa type blossoms like the Sensitive Briar http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/71283/. The briar is also sensitive in that its leaves fold up when touched. Both are pests so good luck.

Sparta , TN(Zone 7a)

hay Farmerdill


its off topic but can you tell me a bit about the pink 1/2 Runner /Green Bean here is a photo of my 1St Mess you cook them like reg beans . sorry i did not konw how to get a hold of you anyother way .. ( sorry folks for the interruption)

Sarge

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Newnan, GA(Zone 7b)

Sarge,
If you click on Farmerdill's name, it will bring up his page. You can send a private D-mail from there.

Madison Heights, VA

Sarge I think your second picture is a Sumac. At least that's what I know it as.
The third looks like a Paradise Tree to me. A real PITA!
Actually sumac is too. some people have allergic reactions to some sumacs like poison ivy so be careful.

Sparta , TN(Zone 7a)

Tylersays,

Thats Mimosa grown Tyler sorry thats wher the seed are comeing from
Sarge

Dublin, CA(Zone 9a)

Sarge--your trees don't look like Mimosa trees to me either. Here's a pic of mimosa leaves so you can see what the leaves look like--see how the leaflets are further subdivided into even tinier leaflets? http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/32389/ I agree with Tylersays that yours look like Rhus (sumac) or Ailanthus (tree of heaven) or something along those lines. If you're not sure, I'd post them in the ID forum, lots of experts there who can tell you for sure what they are. (Rhus and Ailanthus both spread readily by seed too just like the mimosa tree does)

Madison Heights, VA

I HAVE to agree - aside from the first photo, which may be a mimosa, but is probably the weedy type mimosa that blooms yellow, the other two are most definitely NOT mimosa.

Here are some sumac pics:

http://botany.csdl.tamu.edu/FLORA/cgi/gallery_query?q=Toxicodendron+vernix

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/search.php?q=sumac&Search=Search+PlantFiles

The more I look at it I think the second picture is just a young Paradise Tree

Phenix City, AL(Zone 8a)

thanks everyone for the replies!

Farmerdill, i think you are correct in identifying this for me "That is most likely the Sensitive Briar ( Mimosa microphylla) There several species of Sensitive Briar, but that one seem to be the dominant one in the southeast"

when i touch the leaves........within minutes they fold up.

Phenix City, AL(Zone 8a)

now.....how to get rid of Sensitive Briar ( Mimosa microphylla)? it is spreading quickly..... and i want to get it in check soon! keep in mind......in the mid 90's here today if that matters.

Sparta , TN(Zone 7a)

co-op it called Eraser put it on the plant only just a little follow the lable

Sarge ;>)

Wakefield, RI

My guess is Chamberbitter, Gripeweed a.k.a. Phyllanthus Urinaria. I agree with Farmerdill

Sparta , TN(Zone 7a)

this one is sumac !

took it to the AG dept they confermed .

Sarge

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New Orleans, LA

hey have this tree that has grown in my yard, looks like in the mimosa family. Has grown about 7ft in less than 6 weeks. let me know i kinda like it.

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Dublin, CA(Zone 9a)

I think yours is Sesbania herbacea--but you might want to consider starting your own thread for it to keep things from getting confused. http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/68448/

Prattville, AL(Zone 8a)

My friends call it nuisance/gripe weed. It is prolific. I do use chemicals, and Roundup kills it with repeated applications. I admire those who pull it up, but I'm just too old and lazy.
I wish you well.

(Tracey) Mobile, AL(Zone 8b)

I think the original picture and the plant taking over Gardening101a's yard might be Mimosa Pudica... I will post a picture.

I'm also in relatively the same climate and its all over the place.. I have found it in pots as well.. Its is shallow rooted and very easy to pull up.. but if you shake it to save some of the soil, you shake seeds back into the soil.. and you know what happens then....

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Dublin, CA(Zone 9a)

Mimosa pudica has a fairly limited distribution within the US (and does not occur in AL) so I think it's unlikely that's what your plant or gardening101's is. If it's a Mimosa species, it's likely M. microphylla as Farmerdill had suggested above which is one that actually does occur in AL. http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=MIMI22

(Tracey) Mobile, AL(Zone 8b)

I don't know about "Mimosa microphylla Dryand. - littleleaf sensitive-briar MIMI22, the leafs look and behave the same..but I have never seen ones we have here bloom or have briars...

Once when we were at Mobile Botanical Gardens for a plant sale, my husband picked one out of a plant pot because he thought it was a tiny Mimosa Tree.. He asked one of the specialist and she told him it was a weed called Pudica. She is the one who told us not to shake the soil off because its spreads the seeds.

Although this link contradicts me on the flowering part... It does show that it grows in some regions of Alabama.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1491160/mimosa_pudica_shyness_grass_sensitive.html?cat=5

I'm still not insisting I'm correct, because as I said, I have never seen them flower.



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Dublin, CA(Zone 9a)

If you check the reference for the "growing in Alabama" part of that article, they are citing the Plant Files page where someone from AL has put in a zip code report saying that they are successfully growing this plant. I'm sure that it can be grown in gardens in AL, but it does not occur in the wild there (per the USDA) so it is unlikely that it would pop up on its own in someone's yard. http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=MIPU8

(Tracey) Mobile, AL(Zone 8b)

After a good nights sleep.. and rereading this thread...I see, ecrane you are correct about my reference. Those locations seem to be "added in". So for the ones that grow on my property I am going to lean toward imzadi's entry of:

Common Name: Chamberbitter
Scientific Name: Phyllanthus urinararia
Weed Type: Broadleaf
Life Cycle: Summer annual

It seems to have most of the characteristics of mimosa pudica minus the briars and blooms (as I mentioned earlier)....As FarmerDill said, it only gets a couple feet tall at the most. I also see in the picture, in the plant files reference, the seeds that we were told its important NOT to shake of with the soil.

So for me.... I'm considering it SOLVED.

Thanks ecrane. : )





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Prairieville, LA(Zone 9a)

Check out this link. I think it has your answer, complete with pictures.

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1037069/?hl=phyllanthus

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