Propagation: part XIV based on my own experience

Thanks, Dave...it looks like a great product to me. Good to put into the garden beds as well, to stimulate the bacteria that is already in the soil. So I guess that you are going more organic without even trying...☺

Evelyn

Yes I am ...I hate the idea of the stuff in my food and I don't like handeling the more toxic stuff but sometimes its needed. I am trying to stay as organic as possible. Just like picking catterpillars off the radishes and squishing them. cant get any more organic than hand controll.
I like curious as I am also very curious.
Dave

Oh, yeah, and someone was asking about Superthrive...I usually add a drop or two of that as well, in my starter mix for transplants as well as humic acid and kelp.

I think the Piranha sounds great, I use B-1 and some stuff called V f 11 that I got at Rite Aid in the As Seen on TV section, also a Fish Emulsion product sometimes. I really have limited success with my roots, after I transplant, unless they are bulkier roots or they wither up when I tamp the soil, especially with the spindly type seedlings. So any product that is sold in hydroponic supply places would be good for me, when I start the seeds in my Cloner.

I really like the way the 3 mix together and work for me. I get daylily seeds to germinate in the presoak. I pulled a plug of my little bunny grass and it was so white and had all these tiny hairy roots all over. to me thats the kind of roots I want. I think I will stick to my mix as it works and why fix it if it works. I just need to adjusted it to mix in with my injector when I am watering everyone with fertilizer. Its funny how everyone has jumped since I started in with my feeding program.
Dave

No wonder why, we all need to feed and most of us, are always wondering what the best mix is for what we are doing or growing?

Gosh Hell, VF11 goes waaaaay back. I used to use that about 25 years ago. I used it on my house plants. Do you use it on your outdoor plants? Seems that might be pretty expensive. 'course I don't know what it costs now, can't believe the price went down.

It was not bad, it had two bottles for the price of one. I don't remember though, one bottle is 16 fl oz and one is 8. It says outdoors and indoors. It says one oz to a gallon for outside plants. Right aid has it, on special still. I don't know if I paid $9 or $10 but that is what I thought I paid for the two. It reminded me of Super Thrive, which is really expensive to me for a lot less.

I thought it was a new product. Maybe it is next to the As Seen on TV section. I thought it was in the section, must not be. I like it though, my lasagna garden likes it so far.

Superthrive is drops to a gallon. An oz is a tablespoon or 2.

But it is expensive for a little tiny bottle, to me. I love that stuff though. This other stuff I just got this year, but I like it thus far.

I am guessing it comes down to this.
Does the expense out weigh the results?
Thats what I am dealing with on my mix. Its like $75.00 to make like 30 gallons.
So far my answer is a resounding yes. I tend to stick to product my friends use.

Something to roll around in your head.
Dave

DAVE!! That is $2.50 per gallon!! My gosh, I made up about 6 gallons yesterday just to put on my seedlings in the kitchen!! If I used your stuff I wouldn't have room for them. I guess if I had a greenhouse i would probably do the same. Or, if I were selling them. But, seems like you would have to charge a lot for the plants just to pay for that stuff.

Jeanette: It was last year and I learned a lot from it. I don't have the right set up to do very many seeds. and the ones I did do I am dealing with now. its best for me to just ride the winter out and just do my veggies and DL crosses as they are the most important things to me.
as far as cost I nevery really did a calculation and the 30 gallons was an off the top of my head guess. It could be more could be less. I really need to take a hard look at what I am doing outside as far as what my liquid adatives really cost. I am sure I can get similar results from just a good mix of peters at a mild to medium rate.
The little bunny grass I have going might have gotten 2 doses of my mix and they are nice fluffy white roots so I am thinking I just need to add it to the mix once in a while for the newly planted seedlings as If I am thinking correctly Michorhyza will grow in the container as long as its got the right conditions.
I hope no one gets the wonderfull weather we are having ... Misty and cold 50's - 60's and a light breeze to go on top of that. Yuk
I am down for the day.
everyone have a great day
Dave

I know you said you are off today Dave. But wanted to say before I forget, that I am going to drench my plants with Mychorrizae (never could spell it) when I put them in their permanent pots. At that time I will do my brugs etc. I would be willing to bet that that is what is giving you your nice fluffy roots. LOL That's what it is for.

BTW, speaking of Mychorrizae or whatever, I think we are going out to look for Morels this afternoon or tomorrow. After all that rain and now it is warming some, they should be jumping out of the ground.

You ask what does Mychorrizae have to do with Morels? It reminds me of Mycillium, mushroom roots.

Jeanette: I kinda made the leap with you on the mycho to mushrooms. I wish we had them here or I could id them. I always worry that I would pick up a deadly one. most of the time I see the ones in fairy rings or the itty bitty ones that pop when I transplant liners with moss.
Have fun I am jellyous ... can I go too????
Dave

Yup, you can't mistake the Morels. There are false Morels that are bad but if you pay attention you can tell the difference. We didn't get out to look for them. I kept Bob busy helping me transplant a brug.

I think I am going to treat brugs as annuals here. I have a small selection of specimines that look horrid every spring and are full and busy come november. Its all got to be a big pain so I am deciding on what will make the cut as to wintering over in the garage. I tell myself that every year and it ends up with more inside than I started with. oh well enough whining.
So how big is the brug? got any pics?
Have a great evening
Dave

No, I have 5 of them. And yes, they are a real pain in the a--. However, I decided if I am going to spend the winter keeping them alive, then I am going to do whatever it takes to make them look good in the summer.

Just checking in to see if our Dave is alright, since the news just told of the devastation in his neck of the woods. : (

This message was edited May 11, 2010 7:07 AM

Haven't heard from him or the news. Is it pretty bad?

You guys know I am old and can be confused without too much effort....why are we having two groups going at the same time? I am over on theother list chatting away and you guys are still here. WAAAAAAA!

LOL, me too JB.

The $64 question: The answer is: Because someone didn't pay attention to Dave's post saying we were going to the other thread. So, like sheep, we follow.

Duh, there is another thread????LOL

YUP! Been one for days!

On May 5, 7:22 a.m. Dave said we were moving to a new thread. That was 29 posts back there and we are all guilty of not paying attention!! As I said: We are all sheep.