AWWW! too cute. Looks like a Sunday before church pic.
Old photos part 2
Really cute photo---I've got to get some from my Mom.
very cute Victor
NYC sports talk brought back memories. My grandparents and aunt and uncle lived on the Grand Concourse (I was born in a tiny hospital near them) and I could hear the crowd noise at Yankee Stadium through the windows and on the TV simultaneously when I was there (which was very often). I must have been hearing it at nap time, cause I almost always fall asleep still when I watch baseball and hear the crowd noise! I went to a few Yankees games as a kid and saw Yogi Berra, Mickey Mantle, Roger Maris play. But I don't remember much about the game. What I REALLY remember was the guy nearby who kept yelling, "Hey Roger, your fly is open!" I thought that was a hoot. The Brooklyn Dodgers were my favs and I had a Bugs Bunny stuffy in uniform. It broke my heart when they moved.
I also went to some great Knicks games and saw Bill Bradley and Walt Frazier. Those games were great. I rarely watch sports but BB's my fav. Thanks for the memories guys.
I did a photo genealogy of my dad's family after he died but I'm at the wrong computer to send pics. Later...
Hey, Booj---good to hear from you---I had a Brooklyn Dodger cap that I got at Ebbet's Field---I embarrassed my sister, who was a princess, while I was a tomboy---she would cry to our Mom that she couldn't take me anywhere in a boy's cap---never bothered me.
HA!!!
Here's a pic of my grandmother (2nd from left, first row) in a sweatshop in the garment district of NYC, early 1900's. She spent years fighting for labor unions.
Great shot, Boo!
The labor union fight reached its height during that time.
The Triangle Shirtwaist Fire in 1911, while incredibly tragic, helped the cause.
My Aunt Lucille was heavily involved with the ILGWU. She even had a bathing suit emblazoned with the logo!
It was the ugliest suit I ever saw!
LOL!
Nancy
nice photo - i like these old pictures and stories - one think i notice is that the photographers had not learned to say "cheese" yet - where are the smiles?
The reason no one is smiling because the photograther asked not to smile because in those days it took a long time to snap a picture, people face would get to tired and not look the way they should. Since I am an antique dealer was taught this, had to explain it quite often to customers.
and to DGers as well - thx
Great shot, Kathy. My grandmother worked down there too. She did beading on dresses. She worked on one of the first ladies' inaugural gowns, which is now in the Smithsonian.
Cool. Maybe they knew each other!! 6 degrees...
She encountered both sexism and anti-Italian bigotry.
I always thought they weren't smiling cos life was harder way back when. Great pics and great stories!
I thought they didn't smile because they had lousy teeth.
LOL!
LOL!
Nice slice of history, Booj---& I can see a resemblance between you & your Gram.
Cool! I always thought I looked like her.
I'm getting such a kick out of these. And can you imagine how crazy it would be to have explained that these pictures would be posted on THE INTERNET one day for people to share and converse about them across miles and miles.
Amazing, really.
hi katie do you hear from redchick/shelly much over there on the PNW group? she has gone AWOL on us.
Funny you should mention that - I was over here looking to see if she had posted lately . . . (not that I don't love you guys :-p). She's been awol in the PNW forum, as well. I'm fishing around (I'll check with some of the other Oregonians) and will let you know if I find out anything.
I do have her address, so maybe I can contact her that way, as well. It's been at least a month since we've heard from her, I think. I'm wondering if she's out fighting forest fires. I know she did that last year.
Stay tuned . . .
Kathy
Thanks, Kathy---we miss her & Precious!
O dear. I hope she's ok.
I emailed her. Waiting to hear.
was going to do the same victor - tried d-mail with no reponse - thx katie
I emailed, as well. I hope it's nothing and that she's just on vacation or something. :-D
Dmailed a week ago or so and hadn't heard back. Figured she was fighting fires.
Hope she's OK.
Think we ought to scold her if she is indeed OK??? ^_^
Yes, I think a little scolding is in order. I also d-mailed another gal on DG who lives not far from her. Perhaps she knows something . . .
boojum, great picture.Sometimes we forget about the origins of unions . In coal mines too, it was a matter of life and death These days some grievances seem silly.
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Dave, 'this these days some grievances seem silly'
How true
Guess everything depends on context. The unions were definitely a product of the abuse of so many workers. I took a class in the history of economic thought years ago in college. The class should have been required for everybody.
It started with the music, art and social history of each of the times covered which made it very clear how the other philosophies originated. People are responding to their circumstances and reacting to their histories . . .
When I was growing up we had several family friends who where handicapped during their fight to create unions. My grandmother was clubbed and spent some nights in jail for her activities. We take for granted the rights we have, but someone had to risk their lives to stand up to injustices at some point in history. I am not necesarily pro-union, but I remember what happened and why. I always loved history and genealogy because my family was part of it to me. So it was very personal. In general, I see very little interest in history in my high schoolers I work with (spend their lives in the hear and now and don't entertain the many ways to live). I mostly found a personal attachment to history when traveling in Europe because they are not surrounded by new mini malls, they are surrounded by and constantly reminded of their history. I am happy to see folks looking back wherever it is. You are right Katie that your class should be required.
And hearing these personal stories is so educational. You're right, boojum. It's so easy to misunderstand if you don't have that connection with the sacrifices others have made . .
Boojum, I agree with you about the European view of history. When I was in Italy, in particular, I was amazed (and delighted!) at the huge numbers of people living in buildings that were 500 years old or even older. Here, they would have been razed for an office building or parking lot. There, they are still being lived in. There's an awful lot of personal history in those buildings. Very cool.
Europeans have a better sense of history and architecture, but not definitely not personal hygiene!
Victor, as a person growing up, educated in Vienna, Austria I resent your statement!!!! I see more, sloppy, fat, gross looking people here than in my home country.
And yes, we do appreciate and to know history a lot more than most Amercans I have met here
Sorry, Maria! I was referring not to their size (certainly much better than the fat Americans), but to their non-use of deodorant. It is rampant. Though I have not been to Europe yet, I have experienced this many, many times with tourists and European engineers we worked with.
Sorry, their representation was not what it should be Victor, perhaps they arrived from a place I never have been too and I have been to many places on this earth but the sadest places are the cities in the US where too many people are hungry, too many people sleep in parks or in a shelter, in a doorway or some where underground not to mention in apartments infested with rats, at least I have not seen any of that in most other places I have been too and most of all not in Vienna, just try to throw a piece of paper away while a police man happens to see you, you'd pay a fine on the spot.
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