Coneflower transplanting

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Welcome, and I am glad you are here, I have really enjoyed this thread anfd your beautiful pictures.

Thanks so much! I spent part of the afternoon reading about winter sowing - another new hobby! I am just loving this site - everyone is so knowledgeable! I'm learning tons and have to force myself to get off the computer! (Except when I can be outside working, ha). Thanks for the encouragement! Here's my other baby, Charlie.

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Janet

I hit the send button too soon as I was going to say go to the winter sow and you could do that with your coneflowers and have them in a more controlled area so you can pick an choose how many you want to plant


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I have been reading tons of stuff on the winter sow area since you mentioned it to me - you are not good for my health, ha! And the coop section - it's all I can do right now to stop buying for next year's gardens, ha. My husband says if I miss going to Menard's garden center for a week, they'll lay people off. I am ordering seeds, too, so I can winter sow. That'll be such great fun cause over the winter I'll be painting some rooms indoors, but will need to be getting ready for another year outside, woohooooo! Thanks again for all your knowledge!

ooo hanseycollie, I love your baby too, how cute is that face!!

His name is actually St. Han the Perfect as he's the best dog ever - a rescue collie left to die in a park. Thanks, he's a therapy dog at a nursing home too - have to share him!

Did anyone ever figure out if planting them close together makes them change color? I am about to plan my garden for next year (our fence materials are in, woohoooo) and it'll make a difference where I put all the coneflowers I have coming. I think I'm hooked - used to be a tulip lover but these coneflowers have stolen my heart. Meadowyck, I have a friend who just joined (buddycolliemom) who has a rescued white collie. I'm attaching my "God-dog" Buddy's photo. He is gorgeous too!

The best guess we came up with hansywas, we think it might be more due in part to soil acidity. awwwww Buddy

A lassie want a be.....LOL Sweet face, thanks for sharing with us.

I find the whites very interesting but the white is too much for me to keep clean... I have hard enough time with my boys with all the herding that they do.... too much upkeep me, although I do enjoy seeing a beautiful one. two of Sarah's children are white factored, meaning if bred to another white factored they would produce white collies..

Ok talked to my fiend about it and they are saying it is most likely due to the bees cross pollinating them. Need to plant at least 10 feet apart to be on the safe side. So that means I'm transplanting in a few weeks. We are actually having some warm weather and I don't want to stress them by transplanting them now...

Janet

yes but wouldn't the crosspollenation only affect seed?? I dunno, I think that is how most plants work. I do know that my rudbeckia are never true from seed , they are always something else, at least 90% of the time.

Hello, Everyone!!! I'm Buddycolliemom's mom. He is all white except for his head and a brown spot on his right side. Also has brown around the base of his tail. He is also a rescue collie. He is now 5 1/2 years old. He was originally suppose to go to another lady that had 3 schnauzers [?], and after she got him home, she figured out that he was too big. [He is close to 100 pounds. Has lost about 5 pounds this summer.] I met her about 35 miles away, and exchanged cash for a leash. He has been spoiled ever since. He is also the God-dog of Hanseycollie. She has blessed me as much as Buddy. To the woman that had the German Shorthaired Pointers, they are also a great dog. Sparky was as loyal as can be and after 13 1/2 years, I had to have her put down because of cancer. She was sooo smart; even played hide and seek with my son when he was little.

To the coneflowers: I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE them and plan on concentrating on them for next spring/late this fall. At one time, I had the purples mixed with blackeyed susans and the wild version of daisies. Was it ever beautiful. I love this site.

Thank you for each and everyone of you and your knowledge. I am going to love this.

Welcome BuddyCollieMom - you are a cone-a-holic now .... I am so hooked. There are so many amazingly great gardners on this site and they can answer all the questions. So much for having a life away from here, ha! Buddy's God-Momma, Cynthia

Got to love the eyes. It really is a shame what the conformation ring has done to the collie breed, with wanting a smaller and smaller eye to where they almost look like pig eyes. My youngest collies all have too small of an eye for my taste. I like the look of my three girls, Acacia, Blessing, Sarah.

I've got purple cones, with shasta daisies and rubecia. I'll go out and take a picture and post shortly. I have two different purple cones and the other two flowers and I so love them.

Janet

Yea! I'm anxious to see some of your photos Meadowyck. (Of your flowers and your collies!) We should have named this thread "Coneflowers and Collies"!

Meadowyck, I'm anxious to see your photos. So you have 3colllies right now - Acacia, Sarah, Saint and Saul? I have ONE and have trouble keeping him brushed and beautiful! I don't like the eyes either of the breeders - they look almost like Doberman eyes - not collie eyes! I prefer them larger and more rounded - it makes for a sweeter face. My boy has a very long, thin nose - since his brother is white - I read on line that at one time they bred Borzoi's into the collie line to extend the nose and get the all-white collie. Have you heard that? Anxious to see your cones, shasta daiseys and rubecia! (This is Tubbie Tillie, one of our cats.)

Sweet cat there. When I was a kid I had a collie who wouldn't eat unless the cat act with him out of the same bowl. Of course the collie would make a pig of himself and we would then feed the cat on the front porch so he would have sometime to eat...LOL

Yes Borzoi's were breed into them to great a longer and cleaner head. The current members (top breeders) of CCA want a head that looks like a pencil, same size at the skull as there is at the tip of the nose.... regardless that the CCA standard says a wedge/pie shape head. Like what you see looking down over the top of the head. The white does come from the Borzoi's. Sad thing is that Aussies have been breed into collies and now have the same eye problems that collies. Most normal eyed collies have a larger and rounder eye.

Sorry family came in and Havent gotten the pictures will post in a few days

Janet

The breeders want a wider face then, vs. a pie shaped face? I wasn't aware of that. Han has some borzoi in him as does his white brother - I can see it in his face shape; thankfully, he also has normal eyes which are rounder and larger. I'm a bit partial though!

Did I tell you some of the original coneflowers from IA lived and have new leaves coming up from the roots? I put some in the front flower bed which I'll be adding to over the next few years. I have four pots which are still stems, but I'm hoping they're still in shock and I'll see new growth soon. If not, still plan to put them in the ground and hope for next year!

We have four cats - Willie, Stinkie, Tubbie and Sparky. They stay in the downstairs level of our home and the dogs live upstairs. It helps with the amount of hair in the main portion of the house. My hubby is a vet, and a cat person, and I'm a dog person. Two dogs = 4 cats, ha.

Will look forward to your photos! My adopted sister, Cathy, is on now (buddycolliemom) and her baby is a white collie too.

no not a wider face they want the end of the nose to be the same width as the back of the skull

I love the normal eyes, but sorry to say my last four collies all have mild CRC. They can see just fine, but still what we call affected.

You right to not give up hope on the cones. Just plant them and mulch them heavy before the first frost. and then add a little more till the first snow to make sure they have a great blanket for the winter...

Janet

Hi everyone. Sorry I was away for a few days and just returned. Cynthia - Charlie and Tubbie Tillie are adorable. Showed Charlie to my daughter and she loves him!

Welcome Buddycolliemom - Buddy's a sweetheart! I'm happy for you that he came into your life! We are on German Shorthaired Pointer #3 . Our first two lived to be 14 and 13 1/2, both great dogs. Our 13 1/2, Georgie, was that one-of-a-kind dog. She was the best in every way. We now have Gracie and Mo. They are probably about the same age (4)...Mo is from a rescue so I don't know her exact age. She was on a farm in Southern Ilinois along with 20+ other dogs. The farmer tired of them and was going to start shooting them unless someone came and got them. Almost Home Foundation stepped in and took them all. A good thing as Mo came to us very thin, with whips and is an allergy dog. Sitll battling this allergy thing - but she's healthy and happy now and loves, loves, loves to eat! Gracie lives to hunt and retrieve duck dummies when swimming. She's a total lover dover dog enjoying as many kisses as you're willing to dish out. She'll press the side of her face to yours waiting for them. Here's a picture of the girls.

Oh my gosh, Gracie and Mo are gorgeous! What amazingly beautiful dogs! I can't believe how anyone could take a dog like Gracie, Mo, Han, or Buddy and either want them dead or abandon them. Such great animals! I always hope people like that develop a rash in the warmest part of their bodies that will never stop itching ... until thedie & rot in hell, of course. I am a firm believer in rescues! Five of our six animals are rescues and I'll never have any other.... welcome back Medinac!

Thank you! I just don't understand people who are cruel to animals either and I'm with you on their punishment for it! Gracie is not a rescue, but I am a firm believer in them too. Of the 6 dogs we've had, 4 have been "rescues" of different sorts. So many pets, and not enough good homes. I'm so glad we are able to give those we can forever homes. I also thank those who foster the animals and work with them. Mo has come with her "issues", but nothing that can't be managedand work on. It took her a whole year to finally trust my husband - that farmer must have been a very bad man.

You sure are doing your part saving animals! Bless you!

By the way, I'm glad your cones are coming back! They are amazingly hardy. I've been watching the yellow finches enjoying mine. When I see that, I don't want to deadhead them. I think I'll just leave them for the birds.

Do you have any hummingbird feeders up? I put one up this year by our family room window and we're enjoying seeing them come to the feeder. 3 different ones come to visit - 2 males and 1 female. They're fun to watch.

Medinac, I have never seen a hummingbird here in Missouri - until today! I had the screen door open on the deck and was out moving some plants when this BIG "bug" hummed up behind me and hovered at the open door. I thought that huge bug was going to go in my house (!!!!!) and then realized it was a hummingbird! It flew away in just a second, and I was so thankful it didn't go into our home... may invest in a feeder now!

The hummers are lots of fun to watch OUTSIDE the window! The really are very curious about us so it doesn't surprise me he hovered near you. Another female has been coming around. I can tell there's two of each because one is much smaller than the other in both cases. I haven't heard them yet but my neighbor has heard their wings and noises they make.

How are your coneflowers doing now?

That's how I realized that huge bug was near me - I could hear it hummmmmmmiiiinnnnnnngggggggggg. It actually scared me for a second, thank goodness I didn't swat at it, and then it was like a slow motion picture waiting for my brain to kick in to what I was actually seeing. I was so excited as I've never seen one here in MO, and from what've read, they are more prolific in less urban areas.

Does your couple come around often? Another question - do the bees bother your hummingbird feeder? Now that I have sedums, we have tons of bees around now which I don't mind, but would rather not draw them to sugared water if it'll bother them...???

The coneflowers are from my husband's parents' farm in IA. His mom died almost two years ago and they are from her garden. I am so happy that some are going to make it and are actually putting out quite a few new leaves. They are sentimental cause she loved her garden. I sprayed them with Configure and it seems to be helping. Yippee!

Cute picture of the dogs. They seem to really like their headbands. I don't think I could get mine to keep them on their heads.

We used to only get the 2 male hummers. Then one female starting coming but wouldn't land.. the males come by and chase her away. They stake their claim to a feeder and will chase all others away. Then just within the last couple days another female started coming by - that's how I noticed this new female is much smaller. They come to the feeder every day. I've only seen one bee checking it out. The holes are so small the bees can't get into them and don't seem to bother them. Although, I have them by boxwoods and heuchera - and I've cut down the flowers on the heuchera so there's nothing to really attract the bees to that area anyway. Oh, and we live just outside O'Hare so we're pretty populated but in a wooded area and they're still around here...although sadly I think it's almost time for them to go.

How nice to have your mother in laws coneflowers. I too have Phlox from my grandma's house and my mom's house (the one I grew up in, mom's in a condo now). I've had some of them for 25 years now.

That is so cool that you live by O'Hare and still get hummingbirds! I think I'll try a hummingbird feeder hanging on the deck cover next time I go to Menard's and try to attract some. You're a little further into your season being in Illinois so I might get lucky.

Somehow I think Gracie and Mo would still look regal even with the silly headbands on! They are stunning dogs for sure. My Han wears reindeer antlers at Christmas when we go visiting, and I think he forgets he has them on. Now he looks really stupid in them, but he doesn't realize it, so life is good.

I have hostas that were my great-grandfather's, transplanted to my grandfather's, transplanted to my dad's, and now we have them. They used to be very verigated, but now there have been so many offspring they aren't near as much as they used to be. However, they keep growing like weeds. With all my family gone, except my hubby, it's nice to have them as remembrances. Kinda like Jannie's coneflowers.

How cool to have your great-grandfather's hostas! We may not have them with us anymore physically, but we always have their flowers and can think of them every time we look at their beauty. I'm sorry all your family's gone. We're fortunate to have my husband's grandmother still with us - she's 96 and still doing pretty well. I'm sorry I don't have any of her flowers she gave me after moving back here from Arkansas to an apartment. Those were my early gardening days and I managed to kill what she gave me. Sigh...

I used to brag that I never wanted any plants cause they'd just be one more thing to take care of, and that I had a black thumb. Amazing how time changes things. Now I love the plants, my thumb is maybe gray now, and I only have a husband, collie, pekingese and four cats to take cae of. Daughter is grown and moved, don't see her much, so the dogs are my babies now. And the plants.

Well, plants are another thing to take care of but I think very much worth it - I'm one of those people who actually enjoy weeding, I find it therapeutic. You may get a little bit longer of a growing season, but 3 months here just isn't long enough. My two kids are freshman and with everything, I surely have enough to keep me busy.

Missy Mo has found something new to amuse herself. She now goes after bees of any sort, biting and dropping them until they die and then she eats them! I think she may have gotten stung yesterday but she still keeps at it. I'm not too happy about it but I can't seem to make her stop. At least she's not killing the butterflies that were visiting the Butterfly Bushes anymore. THAT made me really mad. We haven't had the butterflies this year that we had last year though either. Talk about feeling guilty... I felt like I was luring them here only to be murdererd.

ROFL, the butterfly murderer, I can see the headlines in the Bensenville News Press now ... "Avid Gardner Lures Butterflies to Murder by Overzealous German Shorthaired Pointer" - lol - and the bee thing - is that just stupidity on our dogs' part? Han has noticed bees now that our sedums are blooming and with his six inch long nose, he tends to want to smell them. So far, no stings. What do you do for your girls if they get stung? Me, I have never been stung but with the amount of bees we are now attracting, it's just a matter of time.

I assume your children are freshmen in high school? Mine is almost 22 and in Mississippi. She's a handful - I'm loving her from a safe distance at the moment, lol I do love the empty nesting - don't let anyone tell you it's awful cause it's really not - kids are grown, on their own and you can do something for yourself. After 22 years, I'm loving it! Cynthia

I so hear ya on kid grown out of house and my collies became my new kids....rofl

Janet

You have three or four Janet? I think Saint, Saul, Sarah and Gracie? We have Han, but have three God-dogs - Grace, Buddy and Josey - all collies. All three are rescue collies too. Beautiful animals. Just don't want to lose their mommas to get them as mine, for sure.

Yep I hear ya about not losing their mom.

yep Sarah is mama to Saul, Saint and last but most certainly not least Gracie...LOL

Janet

Gracie is the name of one of my God-dogs - she was used as pit bull bait. Can you imagine using a collie to train dogs how to attack? She is scarred and has many long-term issues, but she's in a good home now and has been nursed back to health. The people who used her will surely burn forever...

BTW, the transplanted coneflowers are still hanging in there - even in wet, clay soil. There's just not much we can do with our awful dirt here. I hope they make it and adjust, or they'll have to be container flowers. Heavy sigh.

The cones once they take a rest for the year, look out next year. Give them plenty of leaf humus for protection during the winter and some sweet peat next spring and they will be good to go. Honest.

Yes I for sure see them burning forever for using and dog let a lone a collie for bait. Wouldn't ya love to see them staked and cover them in honey and watch the ants have fun....

Janet

ROFL, my wish is for an incurable, horrendously itchy rash in the HOTTEST parts of their bodies that they can't reach. I'll go with the honey and FIREants too. Here is Gracie now. She's coming to visit in a month as I've never met her. She is only about six but the doctors say her body is about a 12 year old.

Gracie looks sweet as pie. You can tell her body looks, well, achy, I guess is how I'd describe her. The extent of the cruelty of some humans never ceases to amaze me when I hear such things. I always think however they treat an animal is what should be done to them. I doubt they'd ever do it again if that were the case.

Janet - What is sweet peat? I haven't heard that term before.

LOL, I agree - let's let the pit bulls use THEM for bait! Can you imagine your two babies being used to teach a dog how to fight? Linda (Gracie's mommy) says she's the sweetest dog and it took her a long time to get used to being loved - now she's a normal collie. Warms my heart.

I have no clue what sweet peat is either ... help Janet!

It's hard for me to imagine any human being using animals like that.... it sickens and angers me to no end.

It took Mo a full year just to even somewhat trust my husband. She now fully trusts him and respects him. He talks, she listens. Much better than with me. Even though I follow through with my commands with her, they always know who the push over is, and who isn't. I'm so glad Gracie could open herself up to love and trust someone again. That's the great thing people miss about them.

Same in our house - the dogs look to me as "mommy" and don't listen as well as they should. UNLESS, Han is at pet therapy, then he listens to everything I say. It's like he knows he has to mind becaust at 100 pounds, he could accidentally hurt someone if he doesn't sit and stay when I tell him too. At home, though, I am not the alpha most of the time, LOL.

Charlie, the Peke, doesn't mind ever. He's a true Pekingese - fearless, independent, and wanting love when he wants love. He'll come to me when he feels like it, not when I ask him to, ha.