Pandurata 2009

wow lots of blooms. patootie waiting for seeds to ripen now. vines done blooming it seems. lots of seed pods so hopefully in a few days i can send out to you.

this photo here: http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/fp.php?pid=6981642
I have a review for you.. I love the way you have the trumpet vine and the little yellow cones growing there all together.. it reminds me of the way it looks out in the country .. and that is how it looks out there.. good job!

Thanks Debra. Please overlook the mess in the yard.Guttering laying around since DH just built a roof for our back yard deck.
all that for our stray back yard kitties. Now we just have to
put up plastic to block out the rain, snow etc. and give the kitties a
nice dry place to sleep this winter.
Yes its fun to let everything just come up where it wants to when you're in the country.

I've been lurking for the past few days trying to figure out if this vine I found in my area is the same as the one you speak of. I didn't have my camera with me but tomorrow I am going to take a drive in that area, will shoot some pics and gather as many seeds as I can. If is not the same one then I can throw them out. If it is then you ladies are in luck because there is no shortage of this vine around here. LOL!

I started a few seeds about a week ago. Here is one of them... Could this be it?

It was extremely similar to your photos. Here are a few more seeds.

Edited: Seeds on picture below are not Pandurata.

(Merremia dissecta)

This message was edited Aug 25, 2009 3:02 PM

you are a lucky woman, I have to bring the country in to my yard.. I went out to the country last night when taking my college girl to Arkansas City to her dorm.. there is an old cemetary there where I pick wild flower seeds and bring home.. I have a trumpet vine in the corner where the honeysuckle is and some wild cones and other things there. and of course, morning glorys.. right now the pink lonicera is re blooming, and the wisteria is going crazy. Can't wait for next year already, wisteria shold be ready to bloom then.. looked for Pandurata at the site I went to.. only found some purps that someone had thrown seeds out there.. but I did find this exploded milkweed ( butterfly weed)
so I just had to get some..

Gosh Gardenia, I could n't tell ya, I have only seen the whole plant out in the country.. never started one from seed..

Pandurata does have a red stem. The seeds have hair on them.
Gardenia please do take some pics and gather some seeds if they're ready to harvest.

Jackie

I am sorry to have to dissapoint you but the vine I found is not Pandurata. : (
I received a very informative dmail this morning, which identified the vine as Merremia dissecta. Their blooms are similar but not the foliage.

I took a few pics of the vine. I didn't want to waste the gas so I gather some seeds just in case someone might be interested.

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Thanks for sending the pics Gardenia. Definitely M dissecta. I have those seeds as do a lot of members here. Thanks for trying though.
Still hoping I gather plenty of Pandy seeds from my own vines.
I'm beginning to see why pandura isn't rampant out in the wild,
no more seeds than it produces. Hundreds and hundreds of blooms
this season and I only have 11 seeds so far, good grief.

Jackie,
You may already know this, but one of the keys to getting seeds from your I. pandurata is to grow another plant from a different strain so they can cross-pollinate, which is why I will be sharing some of my seeds with you.

Same thing with a lot of other Perennials as well, including Ipomoea indica and Ipomoea platensis. I get oodles of blooms from my I. plantensis, but very few seeds, until I get seeds started that Colin shared with me.

Emma

I only got one good viable seed pod from all those blooms on my I. Plantesis so I am thinking that is what happened to my albevinia too.. three blooms, no pods.. all my glories are in the company of other glories, tho.., emma what does another strain mean? same species , different name? LOL

Emma, I had already forgotten that I might need a different
source of pollen. Debra, My plants grown in
Ar and Emma's from Texas.
Might just be what I need to increase
my seed production.
Emma can explain this much better than I

Debra and Jackie . . .

Ron could explain this much better - and without having to look it up.

Here is a Biology definition for 'Strain'

An organism that is different from other organisms of the same species due to genetic differences. Strain is commonly used in two ways: (i) organisms of the same species that when initially isolated are found to have certain different properties (due to unknown mutations) are called different strains; (ii) derivatives of an organism that have distinct genotypes due to known mutations are called different strains.


Emma

Emma, thanks for sending this. I probably won't remember it.
What I will remember, I hope, is that it's good to grow 2 vines from
different locations so that we can take advantage of the small
genetic differences/variables.

Gardenia731 - Neat photos of the sprouting seeds! :-) Welcome to the MG forum!

These Pandurata vines are really something! :-) Awesome topic that you started, Jackie!

My vine started blooming June 29. It is still blooming.
Will be 10 weeks Monday.

This pic taken Wed, Sept 9

Okay, I saw some growing on a fence on the hiway on Division Rd in Buffalo, NY, but we were heading home from dinner and I would never find my way back there.. *sigh* We leave for Wichita, Ks tommorrow.. can't wait to see what I can find out in the fields next weekend.. if any.. Bonnie said she went to the location we saw some at and couldn't find any pods.. I still am going to go look again..

Debra, I'm putting aside 2 seeds for you. 2 is all I can send to anyone due to the shortage of seeds.These are easy to start. If you find any'sds from that location, please think of me. Without a different
pollen source, our seed production will always be low.
Blue, Karen said the same as Kay Jones, no seeds from their vines
So I guess I'm lucky to get 14 seeds.

how did you get seeds from it? i have never seen seeds on any in the wild here. and with these you cant dig then up because they die die die . maybe the ones i see closest to me in the fields i may be able to pollinate them if i knew how.

the few i do see in the wild are far and in between. but this one i see is on this guys fence line on his pasture so maybe it will be ok to try to pollinate it. its by the road so maybe i will ask.

Marie, I ask farmers and property owners all the time if I can play in their fields and ditches.. they really don't mind.
Problem with this patch here in Buffalo, NY. is that I was a passenger in a car going around 50 mph, and we leave today to go back to Kansas. I will be going back out to the fields in Kansas, tho.. and I will be sharing with other pandurata plant growers to help get them producing again.
Debra

i just gotta know how to pollinate it. never tried to pollinate a mg before so dont know if its the same or not as other plants.

Marie, I didn't have to pollinate it, the big bumblebees did it for me.
Most of the time, all I could see was bee butts sticking out of my blooms. So they pollinated all the time for me, but it was all pollen
from my vines, not pollen from a different strain.

My vine finished blooming Sat. My last pics taken Friday Sept 11.
Almost 10 full weeks of bloom. Good news, more sds pods forming. I'm hoping 4 or 5 at least.

Meeting up with Bonnie saturday after work and we are going back to the spot I found the ones from Kansas at.. wish us luck the farmers havn't mowed them away..

Debra, I hope they are there and have seed pods. Good Luck.
Even if they have been mowed, I would walk out to the spot where
they were growing and look for seed pods.

Oh Jackie, yu can be sure I will be on my hands and knees looking in the dirt if I have too.. you haveno clue how intense I get when seed hunting LOL

LOL

if i could ever get over this crude i have i will go look at the ones in the next town. been house bound for a week now with a bronchitis sinus thing.

yuk! Prayer for your speedy recover from Kansas coming your way..

Lots of germs going round here too Marie. Hope you get to feeling
better.