2 unknowns in veg garden - please id thx

Hello. I have 2 unkown plants (weeds?) in my veggie garden. I have veggies & herbs planted and am unable to id these guys.
This first one has neat buds forming on it - they seem to drop off before they open~

Here is a close up of the bud..
This guy popped up close to my other plants and it is a bit crowded...

Here is the 2nd unknown - I have 2 of these growing..
Sorry if the pics are blurry
Thanks for your help!
bre

Don't have a clue about #1, but will be watching to see, I like it :). #2 could be poke, mine looks like that.

I'm not sure on the first one, but I hope someone does I have plenty of thoose in my garden.

Dont know what they are called but personally I would pull them both!

#1 is growing with my tomatoes (catmad - if I do pull it I will plant it somewhere to see what it does... the buds look really neat to me too)...
#2 is growing by my sunflowers - I thought it was a sunflower at first so I didnt pull it... but it's not...
Thanks!

I agree with catmad. #2 is pokeweed. It should be four feet tall by this time next week. Pull it.

Have no idea what #1 is, so I would just watch it and see what it does. Always time to pull it later if you want to. Never can be sure what the birds may have gifted you with. I have an unknown coming up in my tomato bed. It looks just like a wild violet. It's doing no harm, and I'm curious to see what it develops into.

Karen

A couple of possibilities for # 1. Buffalo Burr http://www.fireflyforest.com/flowers/yellows/yellow93.html This thing will have stickers on it and is quite undesirable.

Watermelon/citron; will vine and be smooth. http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/59999/

What's the expression?

If it pulls out easily, it's a beneficial plant. If it's really hard to pull out, it's a weed. ;)

If not for the runner coming from it, I'd suspect it was ragweed, but I think ragweed leaves are a little more deeply cut.

http://weeds.cropsci.uiuc.edu/images/Common%20ragweed/pages/Common%20ragweed%20vegetative%20plants.htm

I was playing around with #1 this evening.. still no open buds. The stem feels like the leaves on my cuke plant.. it doesnt have pickers but it's not smooth.
And the mystery continues....

Well, no thorns and it's not doing any harm, so I would just wait and see. It could very well be some kind of squash or melon. It's definitely not the ragweed like we have here. I'm still waiting to see what happens with my little violet-looking plant.

Karen

Looks a little like watermelon to me,but it is always hard to tell exactly from a picture.But whatever is growing should be big enough soon to determine.deanna

First plant looks like a melon vine. Second plant is pokeweed.

Looking at it again, it does look like it is forming little "melons" (I will get another picture hopefully tommorow). And it does seem very likely - I did plant watermelons about 300 yards away..
I hope the rest of my garden grows like that healthy pokeweed - the stem is really thick... I may have to get my husband out there with his chainsaw ;)
Thanks for all of your help!
bre

Maybe if it is a watermelon you can ask it how it got that far away. I have a similar situation. How in the world did I end up with several lima bean plants in the patch with my green beans. Why are they not all with their fellow limas? It's not as if they even LOOK anything close to alike when I was planting. Sheesh!!

Karen

Lol. I sure will ask em! Im sure the bugger was hiding in my gardening glove and just waiting for the right moment... when I walked into my veggie garden... to hide himself... then he made sure he popped up quickly and made himself look interesting just so I would let him stay..
Can u transplant watermelons while they are fruiting?

Thanks
bre

This message was edited Jul 9, 2008 9:02 AM

The leaves on the first one look exactly like my watermelon plant. AndI don't think you shouldn't replant them once there are more than a few leaves.

Melons and other vineing fruit and vegetable really dislike having their roots disturbed. I learned this the hard way after trying to transplant a bunch of vines that I started in plastic 3" pots. it set them back 2-4 weeks, they were not growing at all and looked miserable. my watermelon just finally started to vine and the cantaloupe didn't make it at all.

Andrew

The first plant I woud guess to be a weed, and I have plenty of the second. (see pics) I bought this little gourd looking deal about the size of a tangerine. It had a green skin like cactus with a red pulpy inside just bursting with seeds. I planted them in a pot and this is what I got. I transplanted them in the garden and that is when I noticed I had some others just like them but they were a bit lighter. I have no idea what they are. This is one that grew next to my okra.

The first one is a weed. Don't know the name of it, but it's a pull-on-sight.